The Offense: Putrid & Predictable

[caneworld]

All of this presnap this, presnap that nonsense makes no difference if your QB comes unprepared to play...... we have a leadership problem on this offense

 

[loeTed92]

Rosier need to be more accurate but Richt needs to modernize his offense. Play to your personnel strengths. Imagine Auburn/Clemson offense with our Defense!!


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So Clemson trades Kelly Bryant for Rosier? You know their dline isn’t bad either right?

Lol no dude.. I’m saying Miami should run auburn/clemson offense


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[Consigliere]

Last year we had Coley, Richards, and Walton healthy. I’m sure all of us would have predicted much worse if we knew Walton would be gone and Richards would be a non factor. Also, while Rosier makes plays to win games Kaaya could put up better numbers when he was bad so the stats aren’t everything there

So we regress because we lose talent on offense but the defense, loses talent too (the whole secondary) and they improve. Got it.

Not for nothing, we played like chit on offense against some of our worse competition (UNC, Pitt and GT). I didn't know we need elite talent to beat 3 teams with some of the worst records in the ACC (all not going to bowls).

Next year we lose Berrios and Herndon, are we going to regress again?

 

[IndayArtHauz]

OP's like this make me wonder if I've been watching the same games as some of you.

 

[Consigliere]

I know we had guys open but I still wish we were more creative on offense

wide open guys are good enough for me.

Those are low percentage throws for a reason. Rosier did miss open receivers deep yesterday (and short) but he was out of his rythm. Richt doesn't put him in high percentage situations and it's painfully obvious. When your QBs accuracy is suspect, when all else fails 4 verts! Makes sense.

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Rosier missed streaks.
He missed posts.
He missed corner routes.
He missed out routes.
He missed seam routes.
He missed slants.
He missed bubbles.


What were we supposed to call?

Why give him so many opportunities?

This isn't a new thing that Rosier is inaccurate.

On the road, he completes 45.8% of his passes. In conference, he completes 51.5% of his passes.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Last year we had Coley, Richards, and Walton healthy. I’m sure all of us would have predicted much worse if we knew Walton would be gone and Richards would be a non factor. Also, while Rosier makes plays to win games Kaaya could put up better numbers when he was bad so the stats aren’t everything there

So we regress because we lose talent on offense but the defense, loses talent too (the whole secondary) and they improve. Got it.

Not for nothing, we played like chit on offense against some of our worse competition (UNC, Pitt and GT). I didn't know we need elite talent to beat 3 teams with some of the worst records in the ACC (all not going to bowls).

Next year we lose Berrios and Herndon, are we going to regress again?

I’m all of those games, their QB outplayed our QB. (Except maybe GT) of course our defense improved. Last year we had three freshmen line backers starting

 

[Consigliere]

Last year we had Coley, Richards, and Walton healthy. I’m sure all of us would have predicted much worse if we knew Walton would be gone and Richards would be a non factor. Also, while Rosier makes plays to win games Kaaya could put up better numbers when he was bad so the stats aren’t everything there

So we regress because we lose talent on offense but the defense, loses talent too (the whole secondary) and they improve. Got it.

Not for nothing, we played like chit on offense against some of our worse competition (UNC, Pitt and GT). I didn't know we need elite talent to beat 3 teams with some of the worst records in the ACC (all not going to bowls).

Next year we lose Berrios and Herndon, are we going to regress again?

I’m all of those games, their QB outplayed our QB. (Except maybe GT) of course our defense improved. Last year we had three freshmen line backers starting

We have a tangent. That whole thing about the QB (their QB paying better than ours) is irrelevant as to why we're regressing.

I think what you're trying to say is that we can lose talent on defense and we can improve.

If we lose talent on offense, we regress.

Did I miss something?

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Last year we had Coley, Richards, and Walton healthy. I’m sure all of us would have predicted much worse if we knew Walton would be gone and Richards would be a non factor. Also, while Rosier makes plays to win games Kaaya could put up better numbers when he was bad so the stats aren’t everything there

So we regress because we lose talent on offense but the defense, loses talent too (the whole secondary) and they improve. Got it.

Not for nothing, we played like chit on offense against some of our worse competition (UNC, Pitt and GT). I didn't know we need elite talent to beat 3 teams with some of the worst records in the ACC (all not going to bowls).

Next year we lose Berrios and Herndon, are we going to regress again?

I’m all of those games, their QB outplayed our QB. (Except maybe GT) of course our defense improved. Last year we had three freshmen line backers starting

We have a tangent. That whole thing about the QB (their QB paying better than ours) is irrelevant as to why we're regressing.

I think what you're trying to say is that we can lose talent on defense and we can improve.

If we lose talent on offense, we regress.

Did I miss something?

We replaced our talent on defense and the defense as a whole has more experience. We lost this years best player on offense and the second best player has been gimpy. The defense has stayed healthy. If the defense loses McIntosh and Jaquan or Shaq was a non factor, I don’t think it’d be improved

 

[Consigliere]

We replaced our talent on defense and the defense as a whole has more experience. We lost this years best player on offense and the second best player has been gimpy. The defense has stayed healthy. If the defense loses McIntosh and Jaquan or Shaq was a non factor, I don’t think it’d be improved

1. Losing Walton sucks, no doubt. He is a beast. Last year Walton rushed for 1117 in 13 games. That is 86 YPG. This year we have Homer, he is averaging 78 YPG. I guess that 8 additional YPG is insurmountable. Except this year, you have a QB who can run and he more than made up for the difference. In fact, we should have more rushing yards than last year in total. Walton had 15 total TDs last year. Homer and Rosier combined for 13 (keep in mind we have 2 games left).

2. We returned 7 starters on offense, 8 starters on defense (as per Phil Steele, Phil Steele). Last year we had guys like JaQuan as well except they looked lost out there when they played. Now you have kids that are developed and ready to step up (especially when we lost the whole secondary). Also, I don't think anyone would trade Kaaya for Rosier...that could be the 8th starter on offense.

3. The defense is improved because they're playing better as a unit. They lose players and another player steps up. They make less mistakes too and are the real reason we're 10-1.

4. I also love all the hypothetical crap (if these players were gone, they wouldn't be improved). It is a great way to make an argument that isn't relevant as we have the actual results to compare. The offense has real issues, that is the bottom line. They regressed. You can say it was irreplaceable talent or injuries or _______ (insert excuse here) but we have a large sample (16 games, 2 conference seasons) to evaluate. We need help there if we want to take the next step.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Why give him so many opportunities?

This isn't a new thing that Rosier is inaccurate.

On the road, he completes 45.8% of his passes. In conference, he completes 51.5% of his passes.

What’s the alternative?

 

[OldhamA]

Last year we had Coley, Richards, and Walton healthy. I’m sure all of us would have predicted much worse if we knew Walton would be gone and Richards would be a non factor. Also, while Rosier makes plays to win games Kaaya could put up better numbers when he was bad so the stats aren’t everything there

So we regress because we lose talent on offense but the defense, loses talent too (the whole secondary) and they improve. Got it.

Not for nothing, we played like chit on offense against some of our worse competition (UNC, Pitt and GT). I didn't know we need elite talent to beat 3 teams with some of the worst records in the ACC (all not going to bowls).

Next year we lose Berrios and Herndon, are we going to regress again?

I’m all of those games, their QB outplayed our QB. (Except maybe GT) of course our defense improved. Last year we had three freshmen line backers starting

Our back 4 are all in the NFL. Our secondary has taken a big step backwards.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I agree Rosier played like trash yesterday, Miami should always be able to “out-athlete” teams like Pittsburgh. But what about teams who match up with us at the Skill positions?


It’s on the Coaching.

Auburn really game planned to be able to confuse the mighty Alabama - and their four and five stars all three deep.

Auburn won due to coaching.

Period.

 

[LuCane]

Wr’s by themselves all game. I saw it with my own two eyes. Purely Rosiers fault yestersay imo.

If you know your QB is wildly inaccurate, and has been the entire season and perhaps his entire career, and you still call plays requiring precision and accuracy, is the "blame" not to be shared?

Last year, our QB didn't have good feet. Couldn't move. Good accuracy. QB's fault.
This year, our QB has good feet. Can move. Has terrible accuracy. QB's fault.

Accountability is rarely black and white or 100% in either direction, but I think it should be shared until we at least try a handful of things that might help.

 

[Consigliere]

Why give him so many opportunities?

This isn't a new thing that Rosier is inaccurate.

On the road, he completes 45.8% of his passes. In conference, he completes 51.5% of his passes.

What’s the alternative?

At least we acknowledged that if you don't trust your QB, don't give him so many opportunities.

Here is a thought...Use our vastly superior athletes to create mismatches against Pitt.

This isn't rocket science. Pitt is utter garbage and somehow, someway these teams were able to score points against them:

GT - 35
Cuse - 27
UNC - 34
NCST - 35

Even big bad Youngstown State had 21 points.

Before this week, Pitt had the 65th best scoring D and 68th best total D. It looked like our offense didn't practice. Perhaps the blame is among numerous parties here?

 

[Consigliere]

Wr’s by themselves all game. I saw it with my own two eyes. Purely Rosiers fault yestersay imo.

If you know your QB is wildly inaccurate, and has been the entire season and perhaps his entire career, and you still call plays requiring precision and accuracy, is the "blame" not to be shared?

Last year, our QB didn't have good feet. Couldn't move. Good accuracy. QB's fault.
This year, our QB has good feet. Can move. Has terrible accuracy. QB's fault.

Accountability is rarely black and white or 100% in either direction, but I think it should be shared until we at least try a handful of things that might help.

Why is this so difficult?

 

[CanesAreAble]

Why give him so many opportunities?

This isn't a new thing that Rosier is inaccurate.

On the road, he completes 45.8% of his passes. In conference, he completes 51.5% of his passes.

What’s the alternative?

At least we acknowledged that if you don't trust your QB, don't give him so many opportunities.

Here is a thought...Use our vastly superior athletes to create mismatches against Pitt.

What does “create mismatches” mean?

You mean get guys open?

Like they were yesterday?

 

[LuCane]

Why give him so many opportunities?

This isn't a new thing that Rosier is inaccurate.

On the road, he completes 45.8% of his passes. In conference, he completes 51.5% of his passes.

What’s the alternative?

At least we acknowledged that if you don't trust your QB, don't give him so many opportunities.

Here is a thought...Use our vastly superior athletes to create mismatches against Pitt.

What does “create mismatches” mean?

You mean get guys open?

Like they were yesterday?

You know better than this, man. Come on. There are a handful of options where you can put Rosier on the move. Any short dumps that don't require setting your feet and tossing an accurate pass significantly downfield. How many bootlegs have you seen? Only short roll I remember yesterday went for a late TD. And, that was a long pass. ****, we have a play from last year on PA where Kaaya would be on the move. The TE would get about 8-12 yards a pop. Haven't done it this year. When's the last time you saw an easy crossing route? Duke game? That went for a TD.

Every single person knows Rosier is wild. If we were trying to get him in a rhythm that didn't require dropping back, setting his feet and using good mechanics, and he were still ****ting the bed, I'd say "cool, this is 100% on Rosier." Also, it'd be helpful if we were less predictable in the run game. But, that probably wouldn't have mattered against what Pitt was doing yesterday. Against their front and attack, there are at least some things to try. If the answer is "this is our system/philosophy and so be it," then Rosier is naturally going to let you down at times. It's a miracle it hadn't already happened.

We know Richt is limited with what Rosier can do and further limited by the apparent alternatives to playing him. We're really just going to place 100% of the blame on Rosier not being able to execute plays he's been erratic in and that's that? Coaches don't deserve all the blame. Neither do players unless everything has been attempted.

 

[hoops156]

Rosier need to be more accurate but Richt needs to modernize his offense. Play to your personnel strengths. Imagine Auburn/Clemson offense with our Defense!!


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So Clemson trades Kelly Bryant for Rosier? You know their dline isn’t bad either right?

Lol no dude.. I’m saying Miami should run auburn/clemson offense


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imagine if kelly bryant ran richts offense instead of rosier?

 

[hoops156]

Why give him so many opportunities?

This isn't a new thing that Rosier is inaccurate.

On the road, he completes 45.8% of his passes. In conference, he completes 51.5% of his passes.

What’s the alternative?

At least we acknowledged that if you don't trust your QB, don't give him so many opportunities.

Here is a thought...Use our vastly superior athletes to create mismatches against Pitt.

This isn't rocket science. Pitt is utter garbage and somehow, someway these teams were able to score points against them:

GT - 35
Cuse - 27
UNC - 34
NCST - 35

Even big bad Youngstown State had 21 points.

Before this week, Pitt had the 65th best scoring D and 68th best total D. It looked like our offense didn't practice. Perhaps the blame is among numerous parties here?

if rosier even has a game he had against UVA, we win scoring 28+

 

[canes614]

All of this presnap this, presnap that nonsense makes no difference if your QB comes unprepared to play...... we have a leadership problem on this offense

I agree with OP... offenses that put up points use pre snap motion, audibles , shifts etc to keep defenses guessing...at the least use a hurry up offense....also, the bubble screen wr always runs toward the sideline making it easy to read.....why not have the outside wr run a few steps in inside? Look at the Notre Dame game you will see a lot more formations.....the o-line isn't strong enough to come out with bully football....gotta find Clemsons weaknesses early to keep them guessing.