The media weighs in on Al Golden after loss to Cincinnati

told ya dis aint miami talent, we need butch to lock up sfla. Even nfl scouts see it, BD can come in nexxt year n he would not win with this squad

Need to bring Butch in TODAY! The impact on recruiting would be instant. Gives him rest of season to work on new staff. He has to do better with what we have than Al has. Just walking in the door and turning everyone on defense loose to attack and then think would make a difference. There are some real players on the defense who can play IF turned loose to wreck and destroy. Sure we will still suck this year but speed will return as fat come off.
 
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Good article but if that scout thinks cincy has more talent he hasn't been paying attention

Amazing the lack of talent Miami has,” he said, unprompted. “Wild to see in person.”

I responded by asking if it was a lack of talent or a development issue. Seemed fair since Miami did have seven draft picks selected in 2015, despite a 6-7 record.

“Lack of,” he said. “Used to seeing fast guys out there. Didn’t see a lot of speed today.”

A minute later: “Cincy might have better talent.”

Undoubtedly the amount of speed we have has diminished. However, when we look at chickillo and perryman these guys reached their optimal speed at a lower weight level. A lot of our players look talentless because our coaches are just that bad. A mixture of misuse, relatively poor S&C, and disfunction cause some ok players to look bad and some good players to look average.


The NFL will prove, again, that Miami has had more talent than its counterparts and failed to produce. Burns, elder, bush, kaaya, darling, and grace are sure fire NFL players for at least 3 years IMO. Can't attest that the cincy has true same quantity

The talent level is down especially compared to those "me guys" from last year. OL is mediocre. WR groups is not very athletic. Walton shouldn't be a big contributor at this point in his career.

I actually think the talent on the DL is pretty good but they all look like ****. LB is embarrassing considering where we are located. CB has no depth. S position should be fine but not with the way we play.

Win 9 games min with a competent staff this year.

Yeah I agree with the bolded. The main argument that I'm making is our talent level is still much further ahead than cincy. The counter argument that the scout was making shifts the blame away from this staff.
 
Where is the CIS slurp squad of condescending, know-nothing ******** to tell all of these people they're clueless because we're still on the Golden road?

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Amazing that it's taken this long for these morons to see this. But hey, at least now they are calling him out.

It's a start. Hopefully the noise gets so loud in the next week that they fire his ***.
He hasn't been fired yet? I'm surprised, I figured he'd be gone by the time I got up this AM.
 
Ryan Nanni

Losing to Cincinnati because you only scored three points in the second half is bad, and it is not what Al Golden needed in these times of fan discontent. It'd be foolish to let one bad result decide the man's fate without stepping back and looking at the big picture, a big picture I think demonstrates that Golden deserves a little more time...

2014 was a step back, sure, but Golden was breaking in a true freshman quarterback in Brad Kaaya and had a non-conference schedule that included three eventual bowl teams. There are other trouble signs, most notably that Golden's 3-9 against ranked teams and .500 in ACC play. But there are also signs of improvement, like Kaaya, a very stingy pass defense, and very steady recruiting classes...

But Al Golden's done a pretty good job keeping Miami afloat despite the rest of the ACC improving markedly since his hire, and he hasn't caused Miami any major embarrassment. Consider recent seasons at Florida, Michigan, USC, and Texas - who Miami fans will tell you should be the program's peers - and tell me that doesn't count for something.

Link please and I hope there is a comment section lol
 
The scouts been saying that crap for 4 years now. Its a **** lie and last year proved that. Golden fatten up our players and has us playing 1950 Big Ten cr@p
 
Rapid Reaction: Canes lose 34-23 at Cincinnati | Eye on the U

Rapid Reaction: Canes lose 34-23 at Cincinnati
Al Golden's has quite a few bad losses in his tenure at the University of Miami.

But losing to a 2-2 Cincinnati team playing with its backup quarterback and 10 days to prepare for it all? Fair to say its inexcusable -- especially against a Bearcats defense that gave up 53 points in a loss to Memphis last week and lost to Temple at home earlier this season.

The Hurricanes (3-1) head to Florida State next week and haven't beaten the Seminoles in their last five tries. Was Thursday's loss just the beginning of another depressing downward spiral?

Golden better hope not. While UM's administration hasn't come out and said Golden needs a certain win total to keep his job, athletic director Blake James has said repeatedly he wants to see improvement. That's going to be tough to do if things get away from Golden and the Canes quickly.

"I just told [the team] we have to stay together," Golden told WQAM after the 34-23 loss to the Beacats. "We haven't played an ACC game yet. We still have all our goals in front of us. Everyone is really disappointed. But I loved our approach, the way we came out. They made more plays than us. We have to fix what we have to fix. But I know we have the leadership to turn this thing around."

Some observations:

> The Hurricanes are now 3-19 all-time under Al Golden when trailing at the half. If ever there is a damning statistic about halftime adjustments and coaching, that's it.

Offensive coordinator James Coley can wear this one. His unit was facing a Bearcats defense that was shredded last week at Memphis. Miami managed only three points in the second half.

More importantly, UM had a 20-17 lead in the second quarter and back-to-back possessions with good field position and couldn't capitalize with more points. They actually went on back-to-back three-and-outs with the ball at the UM 33 and Cincinnati 34 (kicker Michael Badgley missed a 51-yard field goal). That's on Coley and the offense.

> Miami's third down (4 of 15) and red zone woes (two fourth quarter drives resulted in only three points) continued. It's been the theme to the offensive struggles for awhile now. Miami is now a whopping 13 of 53 on third downs (24.5 percent).

> Quarterback Brad Kaaya had his streak of throwing a touchdown pass in 16 consecutive games snapped. Kaaya finished 24 of 39 for 255 yards, but missed guys who were open at times and couldn't connect with his receivers when the Canes needed it in the red zone late (he was 0 for 4 in the red zone passing). His receivers let him down too with a handful of drops including a tough one on a diving attempt by sophomore Tyre Brady near the Cincinnati goal line.

> Sophomore running back Joe Yearby (17 carries, 113 yards, 1 TD) eclipsed the 100-yard rushing mark for the third week in a row and at times put the team on his back. But the Canes inexplicably went away from him in the red zone. Of his 17 carries, only two were inside the Cincinnati 20-yard line (one went for a touchdown).

Freshman Mark Walton had four carries for 15 yards and a score in the red zone. Walton, though, still isn't ripping off long runs. He finished with 12 carries for 34 yards (2.8 average).

> Miami's offensive line was penalized a handful of times in key situations that hurt them on promising drives:

- Right tackle Sunny Odogwu was flagged for clipping on the opening drive, it wiped out an eight-yard Joseph Yearby run to the Bearcats 10 (Miami settled for a field goal).

- Left guard Alex Gall was flagged for a false start at the Cincinnati three-yard line the second quarter (UM ended up scoring anyway on Yearby's eight-yard run to take a 20-17 lead). Gall later gave up a tackle for loss on a key 3rd-and-1 play on the opening possession of the third quarter when he was destroyed by Cincinnati's Alex Pace at the lane.

- Left tackle Trevor Darling picked up two on one drive in the third quarter and gave up a quarterback hurry.

"We killed ourselves on drives with operational penalties up front," Golden said. "We shut the drive down. Just disappointing."

> The costliest penalty was a holding play on freshman Jaquan Johnson. It wiped out Corn Elder's punt return for a touchdown in the third quarter. Elder has now had two punt returns for scores wiped of the board. UM had two touchdowns called back also against Nebraska.

> The Canes gave up their fourth sack of the season (center Nick Linder and Danny Isidora) when Cincinnati was rushing only three defenders. It led to a missed 52-yard field goal.

> Kicker Michael Badgley had two misses (51 and 52 yards), but still finished 3-of-5 on field goals. He's 12 of 15 on the season.

> Miami played without starting safety Deon Bush and backup safety Jamal Carter in the first half because of targeting penalties two weeks ago vs. Nebraska. You can blame UM's terrible play on defense in the first half in part to that (UM held Cincinnati to one first down and five yards on its first four second half possessions with Bush back out there).

But the play of fifth-year senior Dallas Crawford at safety killed the Hurricanes all night. He was lost in coverage when Cincinnati quarterback Hayden Moore connected with Mekale McKay on an 11-yard touchdown in the first quarter and was beaten badly in coverage late in the half on a long completion that led to another Cincinnati score. Then, in the fourth quarter when UM needed a stop, Crawford came up and whiffed on a Hosey Williams 17-yard run. Two plays later, the Bearcats scored the clincher.

Rayshawn Jenkins, meanwhile, missed a tackle on a long Williams run early in the game, but came back with his third interception of the season. It's clear that he and Bush are UM's best options in pass coverage. Yet, Crawford continues to see the majority of the snaps. Puzzling.

> Linebacker Jermaine Grace injured his ankle in the first half and returned to action. But he didn't play in the second half. Sophomore Juwon Young got the bulk of the work with Grace out. The Hurricanes could ill-afford to lose Grace, who was hurt in the Nebraska game too.

> Miami's pass rush in the second half was much better and a big reason the Hurricanes had success. Trent Harris had a stellar sack in the third quarter when he ran right over the left tackle and got to Moore. Sophomore Chad Thomas had a quarterback hurry at a bat-down of a pass at the line.

> Ultimately, Corn Elder, who has been stellar for the most part this season, gave up the biggest defensive play of the game when he was beaten on a 52-yard pass play before Cincinnati went in for the decisive score


Is the Herald starting to turn on Golden?

And what the *** is Golden talking about in the bolded statement? We started by going down 14-3. What the **** can he love about that? This dude has lost it.
 
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[MENTION=6640]canesfam[/MENTION] will be back to robbing banks and defending Al Golden in no time.
 
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I've got my flak jacket and a bottle of Jack D ready for FSU which, according to last night's catastrophe,
will probably beat us by 50 and Dalvin Cook will run for 600 yds.
(I don't think I've ever so low after a Canes game)
 
@bnrjmz: @MichaelRyanRuiz Planes were lame when they were 3-0. Now, totally fair game.

I understand people reject the banners no matter what the circumstances are (even if I don't agree with it I respect your personal values) but how can you some say banners are fair game now?

How can anyone publicly broadcast negative opinions about Golden (whether on TV, Internet, radio, print, etc.) and say they have a problem with banners period??? Hypocritical bull****
 
"I just told [the team] we have to stay together," Golden told WQAM after the 34-23 loss to the Beacats. "We haven't played an ACC game yet. We still have all our goals in front of us. Everyone is really disappointed. But I loved our approach, the way we came out. They made more plays than us. We have to fix what we have to fix. But I know we have the leadership to turn this thing around."





WTF!!!! Cincy scored two TDs on their first 5 plays!!!!!
 
I've got my flak jacket and a bottle of Jack D ready for FSU which, according to last night's catastrophe,
will probably beat us by 50 and Dalvin Cook will run for 600 yds.
(I don't think I've ever so low after a Canes game)
we're gonna beat FSU and everyone gonna get hyped, just for us to get murked by V-Tech and back to square one
 
"I just told [the team] we have to stay together," Golden told WQAM after the 34-23 loss to the Beacats. "We haven't played an ACC game yet. We still have all our goals in front of us. Everyone is really disappointed. But I loved our approach, the way we came out. They made more plays than us. We have to fix what we have to fix. But I know we have the leadership to turn this thing around."





WTF!!!! Cincy scored two TDs on their first 5 plays!!!!!

That's all you need to know about Al Golden. He is a fat loser who will never win a **** thing in his life.
 
Good article but if that scout thinks cincy has more talent he hasn't been paying attention

Amazing the lack of talent Miami has,” he said, unprompted. “Wild to see in person.”

I responded by asking if it was a lack of talent or a development issue. Seemed fair since Miami did have seven draft picks selected in 2015, despite a 6-7 record.

“Lack of,” he said. “Used to seeing fast guys out there. Didn’t see a lot of speed today.”

A minute later: “Cincy might have better talent.”

Undoubtedly the amount of speed we have has diminished. However, when we look at chickillo and perryman these guys reached their optimal speed at a lower weight level. A lot of our players look talentless because our coaches are just that bad. A mixture of misuse, relatively poor S&C, and disfunction cause some ok players to look bad and some good players to look average.


The NFL will prove, again, that Miami has had more talent than its counterparts and failed to produce. Burns, elder, bush, kaaya, darling, and grace are sure fire NFL players for at least 3 years IMO. Can't attest that the cincy has true same quantity
Agreed.

According to Rivals.com-
2015 class- Miami = 39 Cincinnati = 54
2014 class- Miami = 11 Cincinnati = 60
2013 class- Miami = 21 Cincinnati = 52
2012 class- Miami = 9 Cincinnati = 35
2011 class- Miami = 41 Cincinnati = 42 C had 25 commits to Miami's 17
2010 class- Miami = 12 Cincinnati = 62

Miami avg - 22 Cincinnati avg - 51

There is nothing about last nights loss that can't be put on the staff. They either evaluated the talent incorrectly or they failed to develop the talent, or they failed to choose the correct players for your football philosophy. Then they have 10 days to prepare for an AAC team with a backup qb and they failed to coach a more talented team to a win. Nothing but fail with no acceptable excuses.
This team has no fire at all. You can see it with the way they chase plays. The punt run back is a perfect example. They just kinda run because they're expected to run. You gotta hawk that dude down, because if he changes directions you'll be there to drill him into next week and maybe cause a fumble. Not these kids, they kinda run down and when the guy changes directions they miss tackles badly. No sense of urgency whatsoever. This is not Miami football, anyone with a pulse should see that.


Rapid Reaction: Canes lose 34-23 at Cincinnati | Eye on the U


> Miami's pass rush in the second half was much better and a big reason the Hurricanes had success. Trent Harris had a stellar sack in the third quarter when he ran right over the left tackle and got to Moore. Sophomore Chad Thomas had a quarterback hurry at a bat-down of a pass at the line.



Is the Herald starting to turn on Golden?

And what the *** is Golden talking about in the bolded statement? We started by going down 14-3. What the **** can he love about that? This dude has lost it.
I'm pretty sure the article is wrong, I think it was the running back that toolbox ran over.
 
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Ryan Nanni

Losing to Cincinnati because you only scored three points in the second half is bad, and it is not what Al Golden needed in these times of fan discontent. It'd be foolish to let one bad result decide the man's fate without stepping back and looking at the big picture, a big picture I think demonstrates that Golden deserves a little more time...

2014 was a step back, sure, but Golden was breaking in a true freshman quarterback in Brad Kaaya and had a non-conference schedule that included three eventual bowl teams. There are other trouble signs, most notably that Golden's 3-9 against ranked teams and .500 in ACC play. But there are also signs of improvement, like Kaaya, a very stingy pass defense, and very steady recruiting classes...

But Al Golden's done a pretty good job keeping Miami afloat despite the rest of the ACC improving markedly since his hire, and he hasn't caused Miami any major embarrassment. Consider recent seasons at Florida, Michigan, USC, and Texas - who Miami fans will tell you should be the program's peers - and tell me that doesn't count for something.

Link please and I hope there is a comment section lol

Link is in op. Its the tweet by @edsbs
 
"[O]perational penalties"?

WTF?!?

I really didn't think any coach could grate my nerves w/ his sayings more than Shannon. Well, I was wrong again.
 
I've got my flak jacket and a bottle of Jack D ready for FSU which, according to last night's catastrophe,
will probably beat us by 50 and Dalvin Cook will run for 600 yds.
(I don't think I've ever so low after a Canes game)
we're gonna beat FSU and everyone gonna get hyped, just for us to get murked by V-Tech and back to square one
LOLOLOL @ thinking we beat FSU. You are a clown.
 
we're gonna beat FSU and everyone gonna get hyped

I can guarantee you most of us "mopes" would not get hyped. We'd still be flying a banner the next week saying even a broken clock is right twice a day. He could literally run the table, playoffs included & I'd want him gone. He is dead to me.
 
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