The Giant Cross of paths Miami ..Ohio State.

[Handsome Squidbum]

OSU cares about winning and prioritizes their Athletic Department. Miami doesnt. Results speak for themselves.

Apparently Texas doesn't prioritize winning. Who knew?

 

[Cajuncane]

I’m pretty sure if Terry Porter doesn’t throw that flag They disband the football program and we’d of gone on to win 4-5 more...fcking Porter..

 

[Rellyrell]

What a change.

The ****lings Ohio State stayed solid, relevant. Plays for Championships.

Canes.

Can't win a big game. Plays for zero championships.


Our days of talking s*** are so long passing over it's retarded.

Wow, bro. Seriously, I thought the same thing looking at this game. I got internally mad at a point w/ my mind just wondering & I walked off for a min. My fam had no idea how I went from talkative to just disinterested, & it was this very thought.

OSU transitioned from The Vest, To Fickle as interim, to quickly Urban Meyers (while keeping Fickle on staff), then from Meyers to Day.

Speaking of Day, he makes $4.5m/yr. Day was trial tested, first, before getting the gig full time.

So, a couple of things:

1. Even though both Fickle & Day came from successful regimes, they both were given a trial test, first. Fickle wasn’t ready & returned to staff, while Day proved to be the guy & was officially hired

2. Day’s $4.5m contract clearly debunks the notion we have to pay a quality coach a gazillion $’s to be here.

Their admin has proven to remain competent & diligent. Our admin has proven to be dysfunctional & misguided.

 

[Rellyrell]

Apparently Texas doesn't prioritize winning. Who knew?

They do; that’s why they “allegedly” went out for Urb. They also went after Herman, who was a **** name by a lot of programs (ours included), but as I pointed out in another thread, that one magical season appeared to be just that, magical.

UT definitely cares; they just missed the mark on two G5 coaches who were **** names in the “up & coming” arenas (Strong, & Herman). They probably won’t go the G5 route again; lol.

 

[SayWhat]

Or, you are realizing that college football has changed drastically and a school like Miami can't continue to rely on Moneyball to win, when the sport is wealthy teams swamping everyone. Miami football in the Decade of Dominance was the ULTIMATE startup. The problem is that through changing times and self inflicted wounds, it's borderline impossible to sustain long term dominance when you aren't able to hold onto talent or spend like drunken sailors. There's a reason that despite his ideas changing baseball and sports forever, Billy Beane doesn't have a ring. When you are working with limited resources in a sport where richest team usually wins more often than not, you can be behind the 8 ball.

Can Miami become a nationally relevant program again? Yes, but it's going to take a LOT of things to go right, and some major changes in the way the AD approaches the program(IE, think outside the box, look for undervalued assets, build in the method of a startup). Miami hit on 4 consecutive coaches in a 20 year span. Most of these programs are able to keep their legit hires for decades, which means the machine keeps rolling.

Solid post.

We sure as **** won't out spend the colossus programs or really any of the state schools with huge fan bases, so we have to do it another way.

The only two ways we'll ever win another ship is if we get some up and coming coach before they were sought after. The only other shot is with a player like Cam at Auburn or Young at Texas who both single handily took them to the top spot.

I laugh when I see Urban brought up here. We don't have that kind of bankroll. Not only for his salary, but what he would demand we pay the kind of assistants he would bring in. Then you get to the support staff costs. We will never have a guy like that, no chance, zero. Someone else would spend more.

I'm glad I was old enough to see the greatness we once had. Would be happy to see us continue to get better and every so often have a shot. We're a long way from that though, even though we could make it through this weak *** conference at some point in the next few years.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

They do; that’s why they “allegedly” went out for Urb. They also went after Herman, who was a **** name by a lot of programs (ours included), but as I pointed out in another thread, that one magical season appeared to be just that, magical.

UT definitely cares; they just missed the mark on two G5 coaches who were **** names in the “up & coming” arenas (Strong, & Herman). They probably won’t go the G5 route again; lol.

And Michigan? They made Harbaugh one of the highest paid HC in CFB. They don't care? There are programs that spend as much as Bama and OSU (Texas likely out spends both) and they haven't been particularly competitive. UGA has more 5 stars than any program and they got beat by a 4 loss UF team and were seconds away from losing to a G5. Clemson has a miniscule budget compared to Bama yet theyve beaten them plenty, and because Dabo is an elite coach, he'll likely reassess the teams weakness and fix it, and they will be back on top soon.

Great teams lose, but great coaches fix the problems. Who would have thought Saban would ever say that defense doesn't win championships anymore? He adjusted to stay competitive years ago. Remember when he complained about Oregons breakneck pace and said it was bad for football? Well wouldn't you know it a couple years later he was copying Chip Kelly. And yet this season was literally the first time in school history that Miami has run a spread offense. Schools that have unlimited money and care about football still lose games because they don't have the right HC. I don't know if Miami will become a dominant program again, but I don't think it is impossible for the right coach to have Miami playing in the acc championship game every year and in one of those years catch lightning in a bottle and get us back to the national championship game once a decade.

 

[Rellyrell]

And Michigan? They made Harbaugh one of the highest paid HC in CFB. They don't care? There are programs that spend as much as Bama and OSU (Texas likely out spends both) and they haven't been particularly competitive. UGA has more 5 stars than any program and they got beat by a 4 loss UF team and were seconds away from losing to a G5. Clemson has a miniscule budget compared to Bama yet theyve beaten them plenty, and because Dabo is an elite coach, he'll likely reassess the teams weakness and fix it, and they will be back on top soon.

Great teams lose, but great coaches fix the problems. Who would have thought Saban would ever say that defense doesn't win championships anymore? He adjusted to stay competitive years ago. Remember when he complained about Oregons breakneck pace and said it was bad for football? Well wouldn't you know it a couple years later he was copying Chip Kelly. And yet this season was literally the first time in school history that Miami has run a spread offense. Schools that have unlimited money and care about football still lose games because they don't have the right HC. I don't know if Miami will become a dominant program again, but I don't think it is impossible for the right coach to have Miami playing in the acc championship game every year and in one of those years catch lightning in a bottle and get us back to the national championship game once a decade.

I believe, my friend, u’re equating results w/ “caring.”

Harbaugh was a hot coach. He had major success at both the FBS & NFL levels. Michigan threw a bag at him. Michigan dropped Adidas b/c it was hurting their brand (their words). Michigan then signed a mega deal w Jordan brand. That wasn’t a lazy hire. They tried to rebuild an infrastructure. And now that the results are not panning out, they are not blindly giving an extension just b/c of Harbaugh’s previous accomplishments or b/c he’s a Michigan man. Yes, Michigan cares.

Caring means u’re actually trying to make a change. I don’t hear a prominent member of Michigan’s BOT saying E before W on a public platform to justify Harbaugh’s continuous failures of losing to OSU. I don’t see Texas AD verbalizing public-al-ly that u can’t expect to win every game. Nor do I see these programs blindly hiring guys who were on no one’s radar, or paying $7m to get a guy who’s from a failed regime w/o doing ANY coaching searches or conducting ANY interviews when our previous coach gave us a golden goose egg.

That’s the difference between us, and ur examples of UT & Michigan. UT & Michigan made two hires that looked good on paper, and have not produced the results they’ve wanted despite all the necessary support given. Those gents will either be fired this off season or be given the shortest leash in the coaching world. We, my guy, are hiring first time coaches from failed regimes b/c they are the easy hires, and G5 guys who have losing records at their previous gig b/c he had a “binder w/ a plan.” Lose 62-26? Not a problem, b/c we showed progress overall by winning 2 more games than last season. Per our AD, we’re headed in the right direction. Per our AD that lost could’ve come in the beginning or the end of the season, and it didn’t define our season. That’s our program.

Meanwhile, Texas goes 7-3 w/ a bowl victory, and that’s not good enough. Harbaugh trying to use youth, lack of practice, and every other Covid excuse known to mankind, and Michigan admin ain’t having it. That’s the difference bro.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

I believe, my friend, u’re equating results w/ “caring.”

Harbaugh was a hot coach. He had major success at both the FBS & NFL levels. Michigan threw a bag at him. Michigan dropped Adidas b/c it was hurting their brand (their words). Michigan then signed a mega deal w Jordan brand. That wasn’t a lazy hire. They tried to rebuild an infrastructure. And now that the results are not panning out, they are not blindly giving an extension just b/c of Harbaugh’s previous accomplishments or b/c he’s a Michigan man. Yes, Michigan cares.

Caring means u’re actually trying to make a change. I don’t hear a prominent member of Michigan’s BOT saying E before W on a public platform to justify Harbaugh’s continuous failures of losing to OSU. I don’t see Texas AD verbalizing public-al-ly that u can’t expect to win every game. Nor do I see these programs blindly hiring guys who were on no one’s radar, or paying $7m to get a guy who’s from a failed regime w/o doing ANY coaching searches or conducting ANY interviews when our previous coach gave us a golden goose egg.

That’s the difference between us, and ur examples of UT & Michigan. UT & Michigan made two hires that looked good on paper, and have not produced the results they’ve wanted despite all the necessary support given. Those gents will either be fired this off season or be given the shortest leash in the coaching world. We, my guy, are hiring first time coaches from failed regimes b/c they are the easy hires, and G5 guys who have losing records at their previous gig b/c he had a “binder w/ a plan.” Lose 62-26? Not a problem, b/c we showed progress overall by winning 2 more games than last season. Per our AD, we’re headed in the right direction. Per our AD that lost could’ve come in the beginning or the end of the season, and it didn’t define our season. That’s our program.

Meanwhile, Texas goes 7-3 w/ a bowl victory, and that’s not good enough. Harbaugh trying to use youth, lack of practice, and every other Covid excuse known to mankind, and Michigan admin ain’t having it. That’s the difference bro.

And the hype around Al Golden was like the hype around Herman. You forget that Golden was supposedly a turnaround artist. On paper it looked like a great hire. And Miami's apparel deal with Adidas was the 9th largest deal in the country.

No. 9: Miami - 2018-09-11 - The 20 Most Valuable College Apparel Deals 2018

Based onreported figuresof Miami's contract with Adidas,Forbesestimates that Miami receives an annual average of $6.55 million from their deal with Adidas. Since Miami is a private school, they do not have to release the terms of agreement with Adidas.

www.forbes.com

Notice that is a bigger contract than Oklahoma had with Nike. Mark Richt wasn't cheap. If the school didn't care, why then insist that he make changes and give him 1.5 million to hire an OC? Wouldn't a program that didn't care just let Richt do his thing? Miami has lots of people who care, the problem is they aren't particularly competent.

You are confusing results with not caring. As I said, many programs that to most of us look like they care and are dropping crazy amounts of money on coaches and infrastructure still can't win. I am with you on the Diaz hire, but even if Blake James had taken more time to evaluate candidates, I am certain he would have ended up paying huge money for the wrong coach. Mario Cristobal was supposedly the guy that the BOT wanted and he would have been paid handsomely. But honestly, I don't think he'd be much of an upgrade over Diaz. Again it's not an issue of caring or not, it's just the people in charge aren't very good at making decisions about the football program.

Whether an athletic department cares or doesn't care is less important than getting very lucky with hiring the right coach. Miami once looked at hiring Chris Peterson, but he had a sick kid and didn't want to move his family to S Fl. Amazing coach, but just bad luck for Miami. Jimbo Fisher is on record for saying FSUs AD doesn't support football, but that didn't stop him from winning a championship there because he's a great coach. The athletic department at Notre Dame doesn't care that much about football, but Notre Dame has a good program despite that because Brian Kelly is an excellent coach. Urban Meyer was a G5 guy that UF hit a home run with, then they went back to sucking. And speaking of Gators, there is a large contingent of fans here that claim Miami should have hired Dan Mullen if it was serious about winning. When Miami was dominating cfb in the 80s, the AD wasn't pouring tons of resources into the program like Bama was back then, we were just fortunate that we got the right coaches. Butch Davis wasn't working with a supportive program yet still built the best team in CFB history and then a corch (that the players demanded) almost won 2 titles with that epically loaded team. Having a program that cares is a luxury but not nearly as vital as the right HC.

 

[513CincycaneOSUSucks]

What a change.

The ****lings Ohio State stayed solid, relevant. Plays for Championships.

Canes.

Can't win a big game. Plays for zero championships.


Our days of talking s*** are so long passing over it's retarded.

What a change.

The ****lings Ohio State stayed solid, relevant. Plays for Championships.

Canes.

Can't win a big game. Plays for zero championships.


Our days of talking s*** are so long passing over it's retarded.

Welcome u should live in ohio you would have reliazed this a long time ago.

 

[#1cane]

What a change.

The ****lings Ohio State stayed solid, relevant. Plays for Championships.

Canes.

Can't win a big game. Plays for zero championships.


Our days of talking s*** are so long passing over it's retarded.

Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer vs Coker, Shannon, Golden, Richt, and Manny. See the difference?

 

[Miami Nights]

Miami wont be **** until it gets a real AD.

Miami's ad is a piece a crab
somebody hit me with that espn ap.

 

[Canedude08]

fan expectations are the problem?

richt quit because he couldn’t win and knew it.

miami’s issue isn’t fan expectations but rather an admin that doesn’t give a shot about the program

It's amazing how people actually believe that competent college administrators actually give a **** about athletics. You know who tends to manage the athletics side at most of these "Win at all costs" schools? MONEY PEOPLE. You really think the University President at Ohio State is spending any time giving a **** about athletics? No, because that isn't the job and Ohio State is a relatively good school. We are in a "Richest Team Wins" point in college athletics and you see how barring poor asset management, you have a fighting chance to win, merely by outspending 99% of the teams you face. Think about this, Ed Orgeron has a ring as a HC. Is he a good coach? No, but LSU was able to spend for top of the line assistants(His coordinators probably made more than a ton of good midmajor HCs), and combined with their ability to "recruit", Orgeron's numerous shortcomings didn't matter one **** bit.

Look at Notre Dame, they are a good example of the dilemma Miami faces. ND hit on a **** good coach in Kelly, they have significant resources due to their unique financial arrangements and the fact that they can tap into **** near an entire religious sect for funding, and they can't avoid being blown out by these "Win at all costs" schools. Can the institution do more to help the athletic department? Yes, Miami should have fired Blake James the MOMENT he suggested Manny Diaz less than 12 hours after Richt left, with zero buyout. Blake James isn't the kind of forward thinking, analytical AD Miami needs to compete. You have to have a Billy Beane type of thinker as the Miami AD, because this school can't go out and purchase titles, Miami has to count the cards at the table. Miami has to realize that hiring up and comers may not be the slam dunk of backing a brinks truck up to Nick Saban's house, but it is better than hiring people like Manny Diaz. I look at people like Bill Clark and wonder why Miami wouldn't even TRY to get someone like that here. Clark isn't flashy but you'd get a consistently solid product that doesn't beat itself. That kind of program wouldn't get **** on by UNC in a crucial game and would be able to compete somewhat with Clemson.

Al Golden ultimately failed at Miami(No one could have predicted that he would value friendship over winning or being employed), but at least you could make a case for him being hired, he had the resume of a guy that Miami should be looking at. Instead, Miami went the "Miami Guy Bro" hire in Richt, who was approaching the end of his career. While he stabilized the program, he was a short term fix for a long term problem. Miami has to think outside the box, knowing full well that well financed programs are going to eventually take those ideas and swamp us with them. Look at the things that made this program all those years ago: recruiting speed and relying on putting playmakers in space. Alabama does all of that now and they can use their immense financial resources to stack talent in a way that hasn't been seen. Their well paid, experienced analyst staff can scout talent full time if they wanted to, which means when they do take a chance on someone that isn't a 5 star talent, they are able to make extremely well informed decisions, instead of flyers....

 

[Ethnicsands]

It's amazing how people actually believe that competent college administrators actually give a **** about athletics. You know who tends to manage the athletics side at most of these "Win at all costs" schools? MONEY PEOPLE. You really think the University President at Ohio State is spending any time giving a **** about athletics? No, because that isn't the job and Ohio State is a relatively good school. We are in a "Richest Team Wins" point in college athletics and you see how barring poor asset management, you have a fighting chance to win, merely by outspending 99% of the teams you face. Think about this, Ed Orgeron has a ring as a HC. Is he a good coach? No, but LSU was able to spend for top of the line assistants(His coordinators probably made more than a ton of good midmajor HCs), and combined with their ability to "recruit", Orgeron's numerous shortcomings didn't matter one **** bit.

Look at Notre Dame, they are a good example of the dilemma Miami faces. ND hit on a **** good coach in Kelly, they have significant resources due to their unique financial arrangements and the fact that they can tap into **** near an entire religious sect for funding, and they can't avoid being blown out by these "Win at all costs" schools. Can the institution do more to help the athletic department? Yes, Miami should have fired Blake James the MOMENT he suggested Manny Diaz less than 12 hours after Richt left, with zero buyout. Blake James isn't the kind of forward thinking, analytical AD Miami needs to compete. You have to have a Billy Beane type of thinker as the Miami AD, because this school can't go out and purchase titles, Miami has to count the cards at the table. Miami has to realize that hiring up and comers may not be the slam dunk of backing a brinks truck up to Nick Saban's house, but it is better than hiring people like Manny Diaz. I look at people like Bill Clark and wonder why Miami wouldn't even TRY to get someone like that here. Clark isn't flashy but you'd get a consistently solid product that doesn't beat itself. That kind of program wouldn't get **** on by UNC in a crucial game and would be able to compete somewhat with Clemson.

Al Golden ultimately failed at Miami(No one could have predicted that he would value friendship over winning or being employed), but at least you could make a case for him being hired, he had the resume of a guy that Miami should be looking at. Instead, Miami went the "Miami Guy Bro" hire in Richt, who was approaching the end of his career. While he stabilized the program, he was a short term fix for a long term problem. Miami has to think outside the box, knowing full well that well financed programs are going to eventually take those ideas and swamp us with them. Look at the things that made this program all those years ago: recruiting speed and relying on putting playmakers in space. Alabama does all of that now and they can use their immense financial resources to stack talent in a way that hasn't been seen. Their well paid, experienced analyst staff can scout talent full time if they wanted to, which means when they do take a chance on someone that isn't a 5 star talent, they are able to make extremely well informed decisions, instead of flyers....

man thats a lot of words. lol

having an admin that supports the program doesn’t mean the president is making decisions on it. your hot take read there is absurd. it means the president views it as important to constituencies that matter, and so finds the right leader for it (AD) and supports them and holds them accountable. no need to invent crazy complexity to avoid the obvious. miami isn’t accidentally tolerating an incompetent AD. they’re okay with him, because ... get this ... they don’t care enough to make a change.

 

[Hurracanes]

Apparently Texas doesn't prioritize winning. Who knew?

Not sure if you’re serious or not but their actions say they do care. They are spending money and targeting coaches who were up and coming like Strong and Herman. Plus, they went after Urban. If they haven’t been successful it isn’t because they aren’t trying. Can’t say that about Miami.

 

[Rellyrell]

And the hype around Al Golden was like the hype around Herman. You forget that Golden was supposedly a turnaround artist. On paper it looked like a great hire. And Miami's apparel deal with Adidas was the 9th largest deal in the country.

No. 9: Miami - 2018-09-11 - The 20 Most Valuable College Apparel Deals 2018

Based onreported figuresof Miami's contract with Adidas,Forbesestimates that Miami receives an annual average of $6.55 million from their deal with Adidas. Since Miami is a private school, they do not have to release the terms of agreement with Adidas.

www.forbes.com

Notice that is a bigger contract than Oklahoma had with Nike. Mark Richt wasn't cheap. If the school didn't care, why then insist that he make changes and give him 1.5 million to hire an OC? Wouldn't a program that didn't care just let Richt do his thing? Miami has lots of people who care, the problem is they aren't particularly competent.

You are confusing results with not caring. As I said, many programs that to most of us look like they care and are dropping crazy amounts of money on coaches and infrastructure still can't win. I am with you on the Diaz hire, but even if Blake James had taken more time to evaluate candidates, I am certain he would have ended up paying huge money for the wrong coach. Mario Cristobal was supposedly the guy that the BOT wanted and he would have been paid handsomely. But honestly, I don't think he'd be much of an upgrade over Diaz. Again it's not an issue of caring or not, it's just the people in charge aren't very good at making decisions about the football program.

Whether an athletic department cares or doesn't care is less important than getting very lucky with hiring the right coach. Miami once looked at hiring Chris Peterson, but he had a sick kid and didn't want to move his family to S Fl. Amazing coach, but just bad luck for Miami. Jimbo Fisher is on record for saying FSUs AD doesn't support football, but that didn't stop him from winning a championship there because he's a great coach. The athletic department at Notre Dame doesn't care that much about football, but Notre Dame has a good program despite that because Brian Kelly is an excellent coach. Urban Meyer was a G5 guy that UF hit a home run with, then they went back to sucking. And speaking of Gators, there is a large contingent of fans here that claim Miami should have hired Dan Mullen if it was serious about winning. When Miami was dominating cfb in the 80s, the AD wasn't pouring tons of resources into the program like Bama was back then, we were just fortunate that we got the right coaches. Butch Davis wasn't working with a supportive program yet still built the best team in CFB history and then a corch (that the players demanded) almost won 2 titles with that epically loaded team. Having a program that cares is a luxury but not nearly as vital as the right HC.

#1. Golden was an absolutely horrible hire. This is not a hindsight 20/20 situation. I wish I could pull up my post from when BR was actually a good sports site. Golden had a losing record at Temple. He had a good 3rd year (just like here), and instead of taking a step forward, he took a step back (just like here).

#2. Michigan’s deal w/ Adidas was larger than their original deal w/ Nike, as well. I didn’t say anything about $ w/ that deal. I said Michigan dropped Adidas b/c of “image.” The fact is, there’s only one football school worth a **** that Adidas sponsor, which is Texas A&M. Adidas’ football portfolio is majority G5 schools. I was also the first one to say that while the money was good, it was dumb af to lock ourselves into a contract that will become outdated in a couple of yrs. Again, while majority, if not, all schools sign a 5 - 10 yr apparel contract, our Admin got wet in the drawers & handcuffed us b/c it was easy to just lock us in.

#3 Please stop bringing up Richt. I’ve stated this at ad nauseum. This was yet, again, another lazy hire. The money came to entice a guy who wanted to retire. To sweeten the deal, they also gave him something that his former employer refused to do, allow his non-experienced son to be on staff & coach thee most important position. Richt was clearly living out his last days here.

#4 The fact you think Cristobal is not much of an upgrade over Diaz is being disingenuous. Not only has he won two Pac-12 titles in 3 yrs, but he’s 3500x the recruiter as Diaz. Personally, I wouldn’t want Cristobal b/c I’m tired of the “Miami man”, but I would take him over Diaz w/o even blinking once.

#5 In order to get the right coach, you have to care & do due diligence. How quickly did we hire Richt? How quickly did we hire Diaz? Safe, button-up hires v. the best hires. Our admin like the safe route w/o seeing the complete picture.
-Maybe Shannon shouldn’t have been hired since he was on staff of a team that became completely undisciplined

-Maybe Golden shouldn’t have been hired since he had a losing record at a lower tiered school, and instead of ascending his last 2 yrs there, he descended.

-Maybe Richt shouldn’t have been hired when he was fired from a top tier program that allotted him resources, due to lack of results. He was contemplating retirement, so maybe he was burnt out

-Maybe we shouldn’t hire a guy who was on staff where there was locker room issues, and was apart of the culture problem.

None of these were hindsight 20/20 statements. The only hindsight 20/20 imo is Coker. The others were discussed on various platforms & disgust vocalized by fans. Then after year 2, when we get the #1, #12, & now #11 recruiting classes after each of said coaches’ 2nd recruiting class, the admin & some naive fans think we’re back. It’s a rinse & repeat process.

And as I stated, Texas cares, which you will see Herman either retain or fired. Well, the latter happen. (That was more of a pat on my back. Lol)

The 80’s way of operating is never going to be the same. The recruiting scene has changed. The mentality of young kids have changed. I read an article on Oregon, and the reason y Phil Knight wanted his apparel company to get crazy w/ Oregon’s uniforms; he said (and I’m paraphrasing) they couldn’t compete w/ other schools like SC, UCLA, Stanford, Washington that had a history, so they needed to attract kids w/ what they wore. The results? Oregon started to recruit at a much more competitive, and at times, superior pace than their competitors. Why? B/c kids care about internet chit.

So when I hear about how we “use” to do things, that’s our problem...we’re so stuck in the past, that the world has passed us by. ****, even the spread system that Lashlee runs is outdated.

Anyways, anyways....I hate posting long post like this, but there’s way too many examples showing where we are as a program “that cares.” I gave u public statements on record that other programs u used an example don’t do. It was like pulling teeth to get the IPF. Pulling teeth to get new locker rooms (which are grossly outdated b/c by the time we got them, those models been done). ****, it was pulling teeth to get training tables!

We are always behind, b/,c we wait too late to keep up. We buy 8-tracks when cassettes are coming in style. Buy cassettes when CDs are coming in style. But CDs when pods are coming in style. By Pods when Apple Play is coming in style. We make these moves when the move is literally a year or two away from becoming obsolete (see our Adidas deal), and then go “but we tried.”

Diaz fits nicely as a coach, b/c just like his scheme, this program has become smoke & mirrors. Unfortunately, half of the fan base & alumni can see this, while the other half is still being David Copperfielded

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

as I stated, Texas cares, which you will see Herman either retain or fired. Well, the latter happen. (That was more of a pat on my back. Lol)

Texas - Skrong, Herman, and now apparently Sarkisian (BTW they also told Nick Saban "no" back in 2012 when he inquired about the job because they wanted to give Mack another chance) . If that's what a program that cares looks like, then no thanks.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Name me one year Miami admin gave a SH$t about the program! Sure as **** wasn't Tad Foote hiring his lawyer friend to be the AD, or when he butted heads against JJ. UM admin has never, and never will care about this program. Admit it and accept it.

You have to go back to Henry King Stanford.

 

[TheEye]

You have to go back to Henry King Stanford.

Back then, the expectations were not this high. Today, fans want National Titles. Back during Stanford's time, they wanted to field a team that had some respect.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Back then, the expectations were not this high. Today, fans want National Titles. Back during Stanford's time, they wanted to field a team that had some respect.

That doesn't matter. The point is Stanford supported the team. The other point is it's been over 40 years since there's an admin that did the same.