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Farewell to Danny Garcia

You may have not realized it but Danny Garcia made his 2025 debut over the weekend(after not having been in action for over a year) which actually served as his farewell fight at the Barclay Center. To some it may seem odd that a boxer who hails from Philadelphia would have this event in...
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Where Have You Gone, Alex Wallau?

Last week I touched on the passing of Alex Wallau, who embarked on a long and successful run as an ABC executive (eventually becoming their president in 2000). But to anyone growing in the 1980's as a boxing fan, he was the boxing analyst for the network. Believe it or not, there was a time when...
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Yo Steve @k9cane , I gave a listen to some of your recent podcasts and the consensus seems to be that the Ali act had no teeth thus TKO amending it is being overplayed. If fighters still want to go the traditional promotional route, they can. But, I heard this conversation with Paulie and Algieri, its seems that TKO is doing the exact opposite of what's needed to protect the fighters. The Ali act gave boxers like these guys the recourse needed to be able to sue promoters when they've been screwed. Dana is mitigating that recourse with the amendment of the Ali act.

Seeing how he recently had to pay $375M in a settlement for ******* UFC fighters, he wants to avoid it in Boxing.

I would love to know your thoughts on it.


 
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Yo Steve @k9cane , I gave a listen to some of your recent podcasts and the consensus seems to be that the Ali act had no teeth thus TKO amending it is being overplayed. If fighters still want to go the traditional promotional route, they can. But, I heard this conversation with Paulie and Algieri, its seems that TKO is doing the exact opposite of what's needed to protect the fighters. The Ali act gave boxers like these guys the recourse needed to be able to sue promoters when they've been screwed. Dana is mitigating that recourse with the amendment of the Ali act.

Seeing how he recently had to pay $375M in a settlement for ******* UFC fighters, he wants to avoid it in Boxing.

I would love to know your thoughts on it.


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I don't care either way. I just watch the fight. Boxers can make the decision not join TKO, or go with another promoter and have the traditional Ali Act

My concern is the fights that take place. Im not here to be an activist
 
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DAZN and Confused

As I was driving over to my office on Friday morning, I happened to see that I got a notice on my PayPal app that I had been charged with something. As I was at a red light (because I would never check on my phone while driving) I saw that I was billed the sum of $224.99. Had I been scammed...
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k9cane said:
I don't care either way. I just watch the fight. Boxers can make the decision not join TKO, or go with another promoter and have the traditional Ali Act

My concern is the fights that take place. Im not here to be an activist
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Turki's involvement is definitely getting us the fights we all want to see. I guess I see the Ali act differently because my son is a fighter and TKO's intentions for the sport can be a concern for the athletes. The UFC model gives their fighters something close to a 10% revenue share while all the other major sports give their athletes close to 50%. That's a crime and Dana has been transparent about his motivation to use the UFC model for Boxing. So yes, we'll definitely get more fights we want to see and the fighters will get ****ed in the future more than ever and not be able to sue when they do.

For now we can enjoy that we are getting some dope fights made that wouldn't have been before. I'm very excited about the Nov 22 card. Yard vs Benavidez, and Haney vs Norman should be exciting. Plus we get to see my favorite boxer to watch Bam and also the most talented young prospect around in Mason. I can't remember a card with this much talent.

If you get out to Riyad for the fight, watch out for a 15year old Mexican kid I know who is making his pro debut on that card. Juan "El Guerito de Tepito" Perez. Kid has a bright future
 
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k9cane said:
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Where Have You Gone, Alex Wallau?

Last week I touched on the passing of Alex Wallau, who embarked on a long and successful run as an ABC executive (eventually becoming their president in 2000). But to anyone growing in the 1980's as a boxing fan, he was the boxing analyst for the network. Believe it or not, there was a time when...
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Nicely done, Steve.

Do you see the quality of matchups consistently improving (eventually) with TKO’s involvement? To something closer to what we saw in the 80s and 90s (and even early aughts) when HBO and Showtime were really humming?

Or have we crossed the rubicon? It felt like boxing really took a hit from Covid. So many top fighters were at the end of their runs, and the younger guys just weren’t active enough.

I love the sport and remain hopeful it can sustain and come back. I think it’s great that Netflix has such a big audience and they are doing “numbers”…but boxing needs marketing! HBO was great at this, especially considering it was premium cable (and didn’t have the biggest “reach”). They always maintained different types of content to help market and develop fan bases for fighters. 24/7, Face Off, Legendary Nights, etc.

Would love to see Netflix/TKO start to lean into that type of programming more as they build out their stable.
 
Read that janibek posted a possible future match up with Terrence Crawford for 2026. Big 🔥. That is no doubt a major skill with switch hitter and southpaw in the ring.
 
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Ask Larry (again)

On the afternoon of October 3 it was our monthly lunch at Water Grill in Santa Monica with Larry Merchant. We gather to discuss boxing (mostly) for a couple of hours. This time around it was the aforementioned Merchant, Ring Magazine editor, Doug Fischer, manager, Gary Gittelsohn, and myself...
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NateDogg said:
Nicely done, Steve.

Do you see the quality of matchups consistently improving (eventually) with TKO’s involvement? To something closer to what we saw in the 80s and 90s (and even early aughts) when HBO and Showtime were really humming?

Or have we crossed the rubicon? It felt like boxing really took a hit from Covid. So many top fighters were at the end of their runs, and the younger guys just weren’t active enough.

I love the sport and remain hopeful it can sustain and come back. I think it’s great that Netflix has such a big audience and they are doing “numbers”…but boxing needs marketing! HBO was great at this, especially considering it was premium cable (and didn’t have the biggest “reach”). They always maintained different types of content to help market and develop fan bases for fighters. 24/7, Face Off, Legendary Nights, etc.

Would love to see Netflix/TKO start to lean into that type of programming more as they build out their stable.
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My only concern is that TKO will only cause more division within the sport. Everyone has their stable of boxers on a particular platform, and basically we don't see a lot of cross-promotional match-ups unless they have to make those bouts

Honestly, it is what it is

Whatever happens, happens..
 
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