They do have to leave the room if the team they are affiliated with is being discussed.This any committee member with a team inside top 15 should not be making these decisions, or privy to conversations about slotting teams
If we don't jump ND, I would cancel that game. Clearly there's no point in playing it, based on current events.Yeah, i'm 50/50 on whether i'm going to the exhibition game at ND next fall.
Bc they didn’t play them. They played nobody last year until ClemsonSMU didn’t get destroyed in the regular season by Clemson last year … think that’s a distinct difference.
You’re in for a very rude awakening.There is not a chance in **** that Vanderbilt is jumping us. I’m sorry I know people are paranoid, but it just doesn’t work that way, even for these corrupt *** *******. Vanderbilt metrics all stayed the same or went down relative to Miami after yesterday and currently their only win against the top 25 team is Missouri at number 22 and they will fall out. Yes they have Tennessee, but that won’t count as a win until it does next week and even if Tennessee moves from number 20 to something like 17 on Tuesday night by virtue of Vanderbilt, beating them, they will drop back to like 22 or so so it’s all a wash.
Vanderbilt is not jumping Miami unless Miami loses
Yeah, i'm 50/50 on whether i'm going to the exhibition game at ND next fall.
With all respect to you, how much do you want to bet? I am pretty **** certain of this. Even in the AP poll, where they were already ahead of us and which i realize is meaningless now, the gap in points closed, and Miami went past Utah.You’re in for a very rude awakening.
Sure, but that’s the point, they’re different scenarios.. BYU has played Texas tech and got whooped , if they play again with the same result .. they won’t “be the SMU of last year .. they will be out.Bc they didn’t play them. They played nobody last year until Clemson
By the committee? Because I hsvent heard them explain this. I’ve heard the talking heads explain it but even they dont consistently list what the breakdown of who is in what group.
Miami will be ahead of Utah tuesday imoAfter today, there is no way Utah should be ranked ahead of Miami. They shouldn't have been to begin with. Going into today's game we already had a better SOR and SOS. Utah's best win on the season was against Cincy, while ours was against Notre Dame.
Utah was a 17.5 favorite at home, against a 5-5 Kansas State team and needed a TD in the last minute to secure a win. They gave up 47 points, 574 total yards, with 472 being on the ground.
While Miami's win was not spectacular, it was never in question and we went on the road and won by 17 as an 18 point fave.
With both teams having identical records, and Miami having a better SOR, SOS, more wins against ranked teams, and a better win overall, and todays abysmal showing by Utah, we should be in the top 12 but here is why we won't be.
Per the CFP Committee Chairman, he just stated last week that the H2H between Miami and Notre Dame was not being considered since they did not have us in the same "pool", but we were gaining ground. If they were to rank us at 12, per the Chairmans own words the H2H against Notre Dame would have to be factored in as we would now be in the same pool/quadrant as Notre Dame. The committee compares teams ranked 1-4, 5-8 and 9-12 to there own pool. So in this scenario, we should actually be ranked ahead of Notre Dame Tuesday night, and be in the playoffs regardless of any other outcomes as long as we beat Pitt.
Now, we all know the above is not going to happen and this is were the committee will be exposed as frauds. They can't move Notre Dame up into the 5-8 quadrant to avoid Miami and Notre Dame being in the same pool since none of those teams lost and #8 Oklahoma beat a ranked Mizzou team. So instead, they will keep Utah at #12 or have Vandy jump us if they do drop Utah.
But we literally should not need anything but to beat Pitt to be in. The Miami media should tear into the committee Tuesday night and use there own explanations to rankings against them.
We should and if not this week, it will happen next week if we win on the road against a potentially ranked Pitt. Also, I'm not sure if SMU moving into the top 25 changes anything, but it should change the optics a little if they're a ranked team.
That’s exactly the scenario I think as wellUtah is done, they are +650 to make the playoff now. Going by the odds we are similar to vandy which makes me think we will stay at 13 and get jumped by vandy based on the fact we do have a punchers chance for ACC ship now.
Regardless in the at large conversation we need OU or bama to lose and I think vandy losing to Tennessee and BYU losing B12 ship will take care of itself
How did the metrics change positively for us? I know that SMU winning probably helps but we played a three and 7 team wouldn’t Vanderbilt’s win count for a bit more????There is not a chance in **** that Vanderbilt is jumping us. I’m sorry I know people are paranoid, but it just doesn’t work that way, even for these corrupt *** *******. Vanderbilt metrics all stayed the same or went down relative to Miami after yesterday and currently their only win against the top 25 team is Missouri at number 22 and they will fall out. Yes they have Tennessee, but that won’t count as a win until it does next week and even if Tennessee moves from number 20 to something like 17 on Tuesday night by virtue of Vanderbilt, beating them, they will drop back to like 22 or so so it’s all a wash.
Vanderbilt is not jumping Miami unless Miami loses
I agree that should now be a resume booster for us that we went to overtime lol so how are they gonna spin that?It would be interesting if SMU wins the ACC and that should make our loss a "good" loss. Don't know how the CFP committee would be able to spin it.
I think they strength their schedule is better than ours or at least equal toSure, but that’s the point, they’re different scenarios.. BYU has played Texas tech and got whooped , if they play again with the same result .. they won’t “be the SMU of last year .. they will be out.
I’d also say BYU hasn’t exactly played anybody either .. not the toughest schedule
it will be very interesting to see what happens tuesday. yes the committee can do whatever they want with impunity, but the optics of moving ND above OU after OU has 2 straight ranked wins (1 against a top 10 Bama team) would be terrible and would be so obvious that they are trying to distance ND from usMiami will be ahead of Utah tuesday imo
However, it would not shock me at all if they move Notre Dame up ahead of Oklahoma I know Oklahoma beat the ranked team, but it was not impressive and the team never should’ve been ranked to begin with
But they are going to Run cover for Notre Dame as long as they need to to avoid a head head comparison