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The Canes should be #1 or 2

Mrfree said:
My only issue is the ranking with clemson. They lost to syracuse and that isnt being held against them
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I agree. Along with them constantly talking about the injury to their QB, but we don't get the same with us losing our best RB.
 
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I disagree I don't want them to give us what we have earned I would rather Win and take it

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Buck Teeth said:
After we beat ND. The CFP committee is supposed to look solely at the current season's "Body of Work." After beating #3 Notre Dame, the Cane's "Body of Work" will be beyond reproach: 1. Undefeated and 2. consecutive wins over teams ranked #3 and [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 3[/URL] in the CFP Poll.

Again, I said "SHOULD BE" I'm sure the CFP BS will continue.

Thoughts?

BamaDefenders, relax. Alabama will not have our "body of work" despite how you feel about them.
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This is dumb. And all of the “Miami should be ranked “x” talk is dumb. Fair, or unfair, there are few justifiable reasons to rank Miami higher. Didn’t say none, just few.

If I just landed from Mars and I was trying to assess who was “best”, wins would count but so would dominance (which is different than margin of victory) - as opposed to competence. Miami was MORE dominant against VT than Miami were over “lesser” teams like GT, Syracuse, UNC, Toledo or Bethune Cookman. FSU dominated Miami the first half. If I only watched the first half, I would have said FSU was the better team (some said that after watching the entire game - and they had a point, even if I disagree with it). Miami has mostly been competent this year, roll in the RELATIVE weakness of opponents and there becomes a LEGITIMATE question of “tallest” midget or UCF/USF-esque. ****, most of the “fans” now elbowing for a number one rank were afraid Miami was destined to lose to VT or **** - or both. Even [MENTION=3894]Peter Ariz[/MENTION], himself, settled for a split on his podcast.

Rankings don’t mean **** because that’s just a sliding scale of luck of schedules or where a team started the season (ranked/unranked) to begin with (It would have been like ranking FSU out of the top-25 after the first game of the season because they played AL). VT, ranked 13 at game time was the LOWEST ranked of all one-loss teams save Memphis, which was ranked 23rd). VT had only a win over WV which was unranked. In short, VT hadn’t played anyone despite being a competent team. Competent NOT dominant.

Miami has only looked competent, NOT dominant. Now could you see flickers of dominance? Yes. But, UGA and AL have shown utter and complete dominance. And, there are teams that have losses, who have also shown a similar level of dominance or a level that exceeds that exhibited by Miami. Fact.

The committee has flip-flopped Miami and Wisconsin over the course of a week and all Miami did was beat a competent team. That’s dumb -which has been par for the course for the committee, but it’s relatively consistent based upon their history. But y’all are comfortable with that even though it equally made no sense. Had they ranked Miami and Wisconsin co-number 7 would that have sufficed? Rhetorical.

By the “eye-test” Miami is neither #1 nor #2 - and that’s coming from someone who has said from day one that Miami will win it all THIS year. Just not; not even going to bother to debate it. Could it be “argued” that Miami should be ahead of all one-loss teams? Yes, but that wouldn’t mean that Miami or WISCONSIN (remember them) should be ranked 3 and 4. Not if you’re looking for the 4 best teams. Now how can a one-loss team be ahead of Miami or Wisconsin? Easy, back to the criteria stated earlier...dominance. All three teams have looked more dominant than Miami. And, their losses looked more fluke-like (shootout, injury...) than ***-whooping (see: OSU/IA). But it also, to me, would make OK the worst of the one-loss teams, not the best, if a team is forever married to the teams they beat or lost to.

I have no problem with Miami being ranked above all one-loss teams - ALONG WITH WISCONSIN. But, I also don’t have a problem with Miami being ranked EXACTLY where Miami is ranked currently - even though it means Miami DOES NOT CONTROL ITS DESTINY. Sick of reading how a mere win over **** vaults Miami into the top 4 or higher. Stop it. It’s ridiculous and fails the logic test on many levels. A top 10 team beats a top five team the same weekend POSSIBLY a top 5 team (in the committee’s mind), that is ranked HIGHER than the top 10 team, beats a top-6 team and the committee is supposed to jump the 7 over the 6 or the 5? That’s not logical.

The issue is the committee is full of ****. But they have to have some guidelines and guardrails, even if they only make sense to the committee. Miami can’t just win out; the teams Miami beat and will beat have to also stay good or become better to boost Miami’s resume. Miami’s clearly not being afforded the benefit of the doubt that other teams have because...Miami has not shown the ... dominance.

MIAMI HAS ONE JOB TO DO. WIN, and keep on winning. Next up!

9-0!

Go Canes!
 
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CanesFiend said:
Buck Teeth said:
CanesFiend said:
We need UGA/BAMA to lose for that to happen. We don't have the blowout wins, and we've only beaten 2 teams that are currently above .500. Just because we beat VT/ND won't do it. We need help from Auburn/Miss State.
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We just beat VT by 3 TDs. The O is peaking. We're gonna roll ND.
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I'm guessing by the neg, and this comment that people are reading my comment as me throwing shade. That ain't it.

I have full confidence that the boys are going to go out there and curb stomp those racist ****wads. Might be a battle, but they're gonna leave with a souvenir "L". It just happens that the teams we played so far managed to start sucking *** after playing us (i.e., Duke, FSU, GT), so our wins don't look "as strong" as the UGA/BAMA.
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Tell me about Bama's strong wins. I'll wait.
 
We could jump both.
If we win, we'd have beaten #13 VT & #3 N.D. & Oklahoma will have beaten #11 Oklahoma St. & #6 TCU but with 1 loss and a very questionable Defense.
I don't see how the committee can question our close Wins because our Offense, and not question Oklahoma's Defense

nystateofmind said:
orange&green84 said:
We'll be top 4 if we beat Notre Dame, and likely be at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] over Clemson (will be #4 ). Just win and things will take care of itself.
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We may jump Clemson but I don't see us jumping the winner of OKLA-TCU.

Either 4 or 5.
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No worse then 3. Personally i think UGA will lose this weekend which would have Miami moving up 2. ****, Bama could go down. That will be a tough game for them against Miss St.
 
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sitzee said:
We could jump both.
If we win, we'd have beaten #13 VT & #3 N.D. & Oklahoma will have beaten #11 Oklahoma St. & #6 TCU but with 1 loss and a very questionable Defense.
I don't see how the committee can question our close Wins because our Offense, and not question Oklahoma's Defense

nystateofmind said:
orange&green84 said:
We'll be top 4 if we beat Notre Dame, and likely be at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] over Clemson (will be #4 ). Just win and things will take care of itself.
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We may jump Clemson but I don't see us jumping the winner of OKLA-TCU.

Either 4 or 5.
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Great points.
 
I wanna say we'll be in the top four, but I have a hard time seeing the committee cannibalize the top four with two SEC and two ACC teams. For this I think, TCU or OK gets one spot and either Clemson or Miami gets the other....of course with Bama and Georgia taking the top two.

Just win baby. Just win. It will all be different after conference championships. I still think that either Bama or the Dawgs lose one before the SEC champ anyways.
 
sitzee said:
We could jump both.
If we win, we'd have beaten #13 VT & #3 N.D. & Oklahoma will have beaten #11 Oklahoma St. & #6 TCU but with 1 loss and a very questionable Defense.
I don't see how the committee can question our close Wins because our Offense, and not question Oklahoma's Defense

nystateofmind said:
orange&green84 said:
We'll be top 4 if we beat Notre Dame, and likely be at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] over Clemson (will be #4 ). Just win and things will take care of itself.
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We may jump Clemson but I don't see us jumping the winner of OKLA-TCU.

Either 4 or 5.
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The committee is biased against us. I think that's pretty clear.

Best case scenario is 4.
 
Buck Teeth said:
CanesFiend said:
We need UGA/BAMA to lose for that to happen. We don't have the blowout wins, and we've only beaten 2 teams that are currently above .500. Just because we beat VT/ND won't do it. We need help from Auburn/Miss State.
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We just beat VT by 3 TDs. The O is peaking. We're gonna roll ND.
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The O is peaking? Must have missed those three INTS that we threw last week.
 
What people do not realize is how bad the SEC is this year other than Bama and Ga. Wishful thinking that either loses until they play in SECCG, and than will bet the committee still will look closely at how close game is to still include both. Course that not a concern at all because we all know that Canes have to win out to make the 4.
 
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I wouldn't be overly upset if we win and they barely adjust the ranking. Imagine the rage in the locker room. I would not want to be in UVa's shoes the following Saturday.
 
Buck Teeth said:
sitzee said:
We could jump both.
If we win, we'd have beaten #13 VT & [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] N.D. & Oklahoma will have beaten #11 Oklahoma St. & #6 TCU but with 1 loss and a very questionable Defense.
I don't see how the committee can question our close Wins because our Offense, and not question Oklahoma's Defense

nystateofmind said:
orange&green84 said:
We'll be top 4 if we beat Notre Dame, and likely be at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] [/URL] over Clemson (will be #4 ). Just win and things will take care of itself.
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We may jump Clemson but I don't see us jumping the winner of OKLA-TCU.

Either 4 or 5.
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Great points.
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Problem with the point is that UGA is the only current lose the #3 team has. Sitting people in a room and then putting their opinions and feelings are what hurts the NCAA. How did they before OSU second lost have them ahead of the team that beat them? Head to Head should be the factor that is put in place easiest way for me to know who is better. We play I win I'm better period.
 
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