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423Hurricane

423Hurricane

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Plenty to go around. Players? Coaches? Both?

This board is divided on where most of the blame should be placed. It seems most believe it’s coaching and I tend to agree. However, from my perch, it started long before the season began. It started as soon as Mario walked into Hecht and attempted to force feed a drastic change in philosophy on a team that had been coddled and wasn’t held accountable for their actions or inaction.

Change is difficult. Most are averse to change. I’ve seen it many times in my professional life. Attempting to force feed an entirely new philosophy on an engrained culture is difficult at best. It’s like trying to eat an elephant in one bite. That approach is almost always unsuccessful and creates dissent and resentment. A better approach is analyzing the culture and making small changes at a consistent clip based on the most urgent issues that need to be addressed.

I believe what we’re seeing on the field is a result of players completely overwhelmed by Mario’s change in philosophy coupled with, and compounded by, entirely new offensive and defensive schemes. This roster is not loaded with scrubs. It’s loaded with players that are having an extremely difficult time adapting to this new philosophy of being held accountable for everything they do - on and off the field.

Are the players completely blameless? Of course not. But we also need to keep in mind these players are still mostly 18-22 year olds trying to figure out who they are.

Where do we go from here? I believe Mario needs to take a step back and self evaluate his philosophy and approach. At this point, the seeds he’s planted will be difficult to re-plant but it’s obvious the crop he’s planted is dying a cold death. Hopefully, he’s self aware enough to realize what he’s doing ain’t working.
 
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All sides have been garbage juice. Its not just players or coaches.…..it’s both. This team and the individual players have regressed from last year. This is one of the worst fundamental teams I’ve ever seen at Miami. While having as easy of a schedule as a first year coach could ask for. I don’t care if he is the chosen one he needs to eat this just as much as the other coaches / players.
 
JD08 said:
Coaches don't blow coverage and run the wrong route.
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no but if it happens every week to everyone, its their coaches problem too. something isnt clicking if the entire room is making the same mistakes. look we blamed Manny for everything the players did wrong. same goes for here. Mario and his staff are their coaches. if the same mistakes are being repeated each week, its their fault too now
 
JD08 said:
It isn't happening to Mesidor or Colbie Young. Are they that much smarter than all our upperclassmen?
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I was talking about the wrong routes. on the first pick w Jake, it looked like the wr and the QB didnt know where to go. I forgot who was the WR but one of them made a mistake. we had more drops yesterday. we had more missed tackles that we had since week 1. we had more guys run short of the first down marker. also, you singled out 2 guys. one of them who apparently ocudlnt get on the field for the first month. you dont think eventually the coaches deserve blame for the same mistakes? you can blame the players and I have. at the end, its on the coaches to help fix these consistent issues. they haven't. they continue to play the same guys who make the mistakes. there is no consequence. 0 still goes out there. 4 is still out there getting heavy snaps injuries or not. we actually regressed each week not improved.
 
hoops156 said:
I was talking about the wrong routes. on the first pick w Jake, it looked like the wr and the QB didnt know where to go. I forgot who was the WR but one of them made a mistake. we had more drops yesterday. we had more missed tackles that we had since week 1. we had more guys run short of the first down marker. also, you singled out 2 guys. one of them who apparently ocudlnt get on the field for the first month. you dont think eventually the coaches deserve blame for the same mistakes? you can blame the players and I have. at the end, its on the coaches to help fix these consistent issues. they haven't. they continue to play the same guys who make the mistakes. there is no consequence. 0 still goes out there. 4 is still out there getting heavy snaps injuries or not. we actually regressed each week not improved.
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I can't disagree with any of that. In the end, the fix the coaches will put in place its to replace the players that keep ******** up.
 
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100% on Mario, because he's fully in charge.

I won't even blame Gattis at this point until I see how Mario adjusts.
 
Why is it that the same players from last year predominately look worse?

It’s obviously both are at fault but when it’s common knowledge that Mario needs super elite talent to win an ACC title the implication is that a common fact for any coach (give them elite talent so they can win) shouldn’t put the shoulder of the blame on the roster. He needs 3 more top 7 to top 10 classes to maybe compete with Clemson?

That’s totally ridiculous
 
Both is the catch all safe answer but even with our players being over rated af, ITS ON THE COACHING!!!
 
We’ve all basically agreed this roster needs to be purged but most importantly what needs to be purged is Mario’s overall coaching ideologies. If he doesn’t humble himself totally and adapt to new offensive philosophies he will ultimately fail. Talent acquisition is his superpower and keeping this class intact alone will be a MAJOR challenge which needs to be compounded on top of adding no less than 20 guys from the portal. Staff changes are almost certain but can Mario even hire the right guys ? It was concerning he took so long to make his hires, in corporate America garbage organizations usually elongate their hiring processes and the outcome is usually poor, sound familiar ? So much right needs to happen from this point forward and all we’ve seen is wrong.
 
This team is incredibly mentally weak/fragile, has an extremely low football IQ, and looks woefully unprepared week in and week out. Players are still running wrong routes, running themselves out of plays, missing assignments and crazily seem to get worse as the game goes on.

And we're 7 games in. I really question if we even watch film. Most of these players just aren't any good, but the coaching has been horrendous. Where's the accountability that's been preached? We're getting outcoached by basketball schools, let that sink in.

If there isn't an overhaul in players and coaches this offseason you'd do better finding a new hobby on Saturdays. I don't even care if I miss games anymore. Unfortunately I watched yesterday's abortion and it reminded me that there are much better things to do in life.
 
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423Hurricane said:
Plenty to go around. Players? Coaches? Both?

This board is divided on where most of the blame should be placed. It seems most believe it’s coaching and I tend to agree. However, from my perch, it started long before the season began. It started as soon as Mario walked into Hecht and attempted to force feed a drastic change in philosophy on a team that had been coddled and wasn’t held accountable for their actions or inaction.

Change is difficult. Most are averse to change. I’ve seen it many times in my professional life. Attempting to force feed an entirely new philosophy on an engrained culture is difficult at best. It’s like trying to eat an elephant in one bite. That approach is almost always unsuccessful and creates dissent and resentment. A better approach is analyzing the culture and making small changes at a consistent clip based on the most urgent issues that need to be addressed.

I believe what we’re seeing on the field is a result of players completely overwhelmed by Mario’s change in philosophy coupled with, and compounded by, entirely new offensive and defensive schemes. This roster is not loaded with scrubs. It’s loaded with players that are having an extremely difficult time adapting to this new philosophy of being held accountable for everything they do - on and off the field.

Are the players completely blameless? Of course not. But we also need to keep in mind these players are still mostly 18-22 year olds trying to figure out who they are.

Where do we go from here? I believe Mario needs to take a step back and self evaluate his philosophy and approach. At this point, the seeds he’s planted will be difficult to re-plant but it’s obvious the crop he’s planted is dying a cold death. Hopefully, he’s self aware enough to realize what he’s doing ain’t working.
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I don’t see all this Uber accountability that is being talked about. If the previous staff coddled everyone and Mario doesn’t, how have we regressed, there have been no suspensions, and no real benchings? Nothing has changed other than getting worse…We have the same starters and backups as last year other than the transfer additions.
 
UrineDaloop said:
Why is it that the same players from last year predominately look worse?

It’s obviously both are at fault but when it’s common knowledge that Mario needs super elite talent to win an ACC title the implication is that a common fact for any coach (give them elite talent so they can win) shouldn’t put the shoulder of the blame on the roster. He needs 3 more top 7 to top 10 classes to maybe compete with Clemson?

That’s totally ridiculous
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were not even top 10 right now lol.
 
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