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This alliance won’t kill off the sec but it will prevent them from killing us. ESPN feeling the boiling water under their balls is worth it in itself. Be nice to see the monopoly end. Let’s just hope we revenue share to some extent with contracts
 
I think just as important as a scheduling is a voting block. If you can limit the number of teams from one conference in the playoffs, then that really defeats a big part of the SEC plan. So in a 8-12 team playoff, if you said not more than two teams from one conference ...

ACC.
Big ten.
Pac.
Sec.
Nd/all others split 4.
 
Go Canes!! said:
Alliance looks great til you read the fine print

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1) Of course there would have to be a ramp up period.
2) Every game has a contracted buyout amount. If the value of a new TV deal is high enough, then those teams will be happy to cancel the games. The same way Oklahoma and Texas would have been happy to pay a much larger buyout to leave for the SEC earlier.
 
dodaniels said:
The SEC doesn't need to play OOC games. For example, Bama can play the following teams on an annual basis:
UGA
UF
LSU
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Auburn (forgot about them)

That's 6 top 25 caliber teams on the schedule alone.
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And how long will people continue to tune it to see those same matchups with no variety? All of those teams, Bama included, are a coaching change away from 3-4 years of mediocrity. That aside, out of your list, last season Auburn and LSU lost 5, UF lost 4, and Texas lost 3. Two of those teams fired their coaches and Orgeron may not be far behind. The rest of the conferences need to essentially tell ESPN to get bent, open up the playoff bidding to outside media providers, and see how far ESPN can continue to push the narrative that the SEC is anything more than Alabama and a rotating cast of average to good teams.
 
Go Canes!! said:
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The Alliance needs to formed a super conference and play all their games (11 game regular season) against each other starting in 2023.

New schedule format inlcudes:

Miami plays the following teams: 6 ACC, 3 Big 10, and 2 Pac-12

Ohio St. and Oregon can follow suit.

Finally, have a 4-6 team super conference playoff to determine the 🏆.

Teams that doesn't make the playoffs will play each other in the 12th game.
 
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Miami04 said:
I think it was in another article that says it’s not an SEC boycott so Clemson would continue to play S Carolina and UGA vs GT and so on.

I do agree though it gets harder for us to schedule UF when our 4 OCC games already include 1 PAC-12 and 1 Big 10 school.
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Those pussies don’t want to play us anyways, so fvck them I say! I’m happy about this move as it’s finally put the sec and espn on notice that you don’t make the decisions anymore. And if you decide to get cute, will just form our own super league and leave you a$$holes down in the southeast out of it!
 
Like I’ve been saying for months, the SEC hit the law of unintended consequences head on.

This is as best as we could’ve hoped for a response.

As far as future OOC opponents that have been scheduled that may somehow throw a wrench into the process, those games can be rescheduled out further, spread out, or outright cancelled.

We’re talking peanuts in contract payment penalties versus the income potential that the alliance will provide. Not only that, but the survival of a viable product supersedes any short term contract money that may have to be given up.

Make no mistake: this is a businesss WAR.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Like I’ve been saying for months, the SEC hit the law of unintended consequences head on.

This is as best as we could’ve hoped for a response.

As far as future OOC opponents that have been scheduled that may somehow throw a wrench into the process, those games can be rescheduled out further, spread out, or outright cancelled.

We’re talking peanuts in contract payment penalties versus the income potential that the alliance will provide. Not only that, but the survival of a viable product supersedes any short term contract money that may have to be given up.

Make no mistake: this is a businesss WAR.
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Assuming they take this thing to the proper lengths, credit to the commissioners of the Big 10, ACC and Pac 12 for taking a step back and not making a rash reaction. This Alliance could potentially double-dip TV contracts. Do one for your intraconference games and then do a second, separate contract for the interconference games between the three conferences.
 
Why is everyone celebrating what basically amounts to two out of conference games per year? ACC/PAC/BIG are still extremely watered down. Sure we’ll play OSU and USC every now and then, but we’ll also be playing Utah, Oregon State, and Northwestern.

This really doesn’t improve our schedule at all.

And since there is no financial component to this, and it doesn’t stop games with the SEC, it does nothing to slow down the SEC.

Frankly, if this alliance stays together at all, it will be weak at best. Remember it is easier to break up with your girlfriend than it is to divorce your wife. This alliance is just short-term a knee-jerk reaction to the SEC’s long term play of expansion. Alliance will run out of steam and as far as I can see, there’s nothing here that has any teeth as far as competition with the SEC.

Miami’s annual payout will still be far lower than SEC or BIG schools. I don’t see this moving the needle on that front at all. The rest is just hot air
 
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RightSaidFred said:
Why is everyone celebrating what basically amounts to two out of conference games per year? ACC/PAC/BIG are still extremely watered down. Sure we’ll play OSU and USC every now and then, but we’ll also be playing Utah, Oregon State, and Northwestern.

This really doesn’t improve our schedule at all.

And since there is no financial component to this, and it doesn’t stop games with the SEC, it does nothing to slow down the SEC.

Frankly, if this alliance stays together at all, it will be weak at best. Remember it is easier to break up with your girlfriend than it is to divorce your wife. This alliance is just short-term a knee-jerk reaction to the SEC’s long term play of expansion. Alliance will run out of steam and as far as I can see, there’s nothing here that has any teeth as far as competition with the SEC.

Miami’s annual payout will still be far lower than SEC or BIG schools. I don’t see this moving the needle on that front at all. The rest is just hot air
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We don't know if there is or isn't a financial component. And I'd say playing Utah is better than playing App state or Toledo. How much would a series of kickoff games with major teams along with lesser profile games bring to the conferences if they're sold as a separate package to lets say CBS who is losing the SEC? That's just an idea but providing inventory to CBS or Fox in a separate deal from the existing deals currently in motion could work if actually legally possible.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Arguably, no issue facing these leagues right now is more pressing than CFP expansion. None of these three conferences had representation on the CFP's four-person working group that proposed the 12-team model to great fanfare back in June. Though the Playoff has insisted that the 12-team model is not set in stone, it is the only format that the working group proposed and is the bracket that stakeholders are seeking feedback on right now.

There is a strong feeling among administrators in the Big Ten, Pac-12 and the ACC that Playoff expansion — in whatever form it takes — should not take place until the end of the current contract with ESPN, in 2026. Expansion prior to 2026 would allow for ESPN to remain the exclusive rights-holder of the Playoff, and it would also mean that the new format (with its additional games and rounds) would not go to the open market.

One driving force behind the alliance, in general, is a concern that ESPN controls and dictates too much of the sport. Industry sources have pointed out that a multi-round event with multiple broadcast partners such as Fox, CBS and/or NBC would also incentivize those media companies to invest more in their coverage of and commitment to college football.

The CFP's Board of Managers is scheduled to meet in Chicago in late September to discuss the 12-team format and the potential timeline of implementation.



*** Does the boldened not seem crazy? Three major P5 conferences had NO ONE at the table for those discussions???
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I read about this the other day. Apparently the SEC douche was negotiating with Oklahoma and Texas behind closed doors while pushing for playoff expansion out in the open. Its also why he was so adamant that there not be a cap on the number of teams each conference could have in the expanded playoffs. In the same article they claimed that the 3 alliance commissioners (and commissioner of what's left of the Big12) were ready to hit the breaks on playoff expansion specifically because of this. It really makes the BIG12 commissioner's claim that ESPN is trying to kill its conference by working with the AAC all the more plausible.

Playoff expansion is about the SEC and ESPN. Period. Everybody else can eat a ****.
 
fincane said:
We don't know if there is or isn't a financial component. And I'd say playing Utah is better than playing App state or Toledo. How much would a series of kickoff games with major teams along with lesser profile games bring to the conferences if they're sold as a separate package to lets say CBS who is losing the SEC? That's just an idea but providing inventory to CBS or Fox in a separate deal from the existing deals currently in motion could work if actually legally possible.
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Well look at it this way - what do conferences do? They schedule games, vote on NCAA matters, and handle TV deals and finances. If this alliance handles scheduling, votes as a bloc, and has a financial component….then they are a football conference in all but name.

But they don’t have any of the infrastructure.

I wouldn’t assume the AD’s signed up for an arrangement like that, but I guess we’ll find out. It sounds to me like a gentlemen’s agreement to kill the 12 team playoff for now, and schedule 2 OOC games per year, nothing more. But we’ll see.
 
RightSaidFred said:
Why is everyone celebrating what basically amounts to two out of conference games per year? ACC/PAC/BIG are still extremely watered down. Sure we’ll play OSU and USC every now and then, but we’ll also be playing Utah, Oregon State, and Northwestern.

This really doesn’t improve our schedule at all.

And since there is no financial component to this, and it doesn’t stop games with the SEC, it does nothing to slow down the SEC.

Frankly, if this alliance stays together at all, it will be weak at best. Remember it is easier to break up with your girlfriend than it is to divorce your wife. This alliance is just short-term a knee-jerk reaction to the SEC’s long term play of expansion. Alliance will run out of steam and as far as I can see, there’s nothing here that has any teeth as far as competition with the SEC.

Miami’s annual payout will still be far lower than SEC or BIG schools. I don’t see this moving the needle on that front at all. The rest is just hot air
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Believe the impact will be significant. No more Bethune Cookman, FIU, FAU games. The improved level of competition plus the added geographical diversity will enhance recruiting both locally (more high profile games) and nationally (playing games IN other markets). What will exist will be the "elite" conferences ACC / BIG / PAC 12/ SEC .. and "the rest" of D1 football, that will not get much prime time slotting.
 
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