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The absence Of Toney In ND game

AboutTheU05 said:
This is the other thing that is so funny about this……..most Miami fans understand two things from that game.

1. Miami got worked on both lines of scrimmage

2. Miami got out-coached

But these South Bend boys are so insecure that they feel the need to validate everything.
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1 isn't true. They ran for 3.5 a carry. Our DT's held up very well. I actually thought they won that battle. This wasn't some bully job by ND.
 
You guys won fair and square, but your fan base is so hypocritical.

When Toney went down midweek, it was practically a celebration in South Bend. Suddenly, everyone was convinced Notre Dame would win because Miami's entire offense supposedly revolved around Toney.

Now, after the game, because Miami was still able to move the ball and score without him, the narrative has completely flipped. Apparently, Toney's absence wouldn't have made a difference, and his importance was overblown.

Nah, man. With Toney, Miami puts up 35+. You wouldn't have been able to play man coverage the way you did. You would've been forced into the same soft zone you played against BYU, and Mensah would've torched it.

You won the game, and I'll give you credit for that. But don't spend all week celebrating Toney being out, only to turn around and pretend his absence didn't matter.

GG, I guess.
 
BlueGold said:
I know many of you believe that if Toney would have played in the ND game, Miami would have won. Maybe, maybe not. It was a great game despite his absence. However, in all fairness, let's not forget that ND had it's share of injuries. Brauntae Johnson, who many consider one of the best safeties in the country, did not play. Captain middle linebacker Drayk Bowen did not play, DJ McKinney, second best cornerback did not play, one of our first string tackles did not play, Leonard Moore left the game for awhile in the second half because of a temporary eye issue, and our third best cornerback left the game due to injury in the second half. I am not here to argue or troll. I know Toney is one of the best players in the country. I just think that if everyone mentioned here played in a rematch in the post season, it would be another great game.
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thank god you showed up, we would never have known that you had injuries on defense that matched a top 3 player in all of cfb.

go smell your farts under touchdown jesus. lets hope we play in the playoffs and find out
 
BlueGold said:
Get a terminal illness and die? Really? Over a football game? You got your priorities messed up. My brother just passed away. I could care less about a lousy football game when compared to wishing cancer and death on me. No need for me to post anymore on this site.
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This reaction is synonymous with all things ND. When you fail to achieve your intended result, just quit, take your ball and go home. Then blame everyone else for your failures.
 
TheU1984 said:
A rubber match will happen in the playoffs. Mark it down. Meant to be.
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TBH, a healthy Miami is probably the last team I would like to meet in the playoffs. I would like ND's chances against anyone else. Miami has a ton of elite pieces and Dawson is really, really good. Your DT's are easily the best in the game also. Takes away ND's usually tough run game.

You guys are right not to worry. You are in a good spot. Three games at home that you should win comfortably. You will be fine.
 
BlueGold said:
I know many of you believe that if Toney would have played in the ND game, Miami would have won. Maybe, maybe not. It was a great game despite his absence. However, in all fairness, let's not forget that ND had it's share of injuries. Brauntae Johnson, who many consider one of the best safeties in the country, did not play. Captain middle linebacker Drayk Bowen did not play, DJ McKinney, second best cornerback did not play, one of our first string tackles did not play, Leonard Moore left the game for awhile in the second half because of a temporary eye issue, and our third best cornerback left the game due to injury in the second half. I am not here to argue or troll. I know Toney is one of the best players in the country. I just think that if everyone mentioned here played in a rematch in the post season, it would be another great game.
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Game is a toss up in my mind if Toney plays. And with that fact you’d think the committee would’ve knocked us harder for the loss in that scenario. At least now we have the no Mali excuse. But who actually knows with those idiots in Grapevine.

I think it’s pretty clear Mali has been hurt since the WF game. Not saying he hasn’t been playing incredible all season but deep down felt inevitable he would pick up an injury this year. I think we can win the next 3 and ACC champ game without him and if we get a bye he’ll be fresh for the quarters.

It sucks that he’s hurt but imo happened at the most ok time. That FSU game and UNC game would’ve got real sketchy without him and they already were with him. The team without him got the most high pressure under the lights reps without him which I think will improve their all around play for the final stretch before playoffs .
 
BlueGold said:
You are referring to the td that wasn't. That play can be argued for eternity. According to an unbiased referee, the catch in the end zone was explained that if he caught the ball in the middle of the end zone rather than close to out of bounds, it would have been called incomplete because the defender caused him to drop the ball. It was jarred loose. If the ball crosses the plain of the endzone on a run up the middle, it would be called a touchdown. This same issue does not apply to catching the ball in the endzone. He must have control of the ball all the way through to the end of the play. This is how I heard it explained.

Didn't Miami have a controversial call go in their favor in the North Carolina game? ND had a controversial call go against them in the BYU game by trying to spike the ball to stop the clock that was ruled a fumble. Some calls go in our favor and others go against us.
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So let me ask you this, if he would have caught the ball with his toe out of bounds it would have been incomplete, right? It would have been incomplete because it wasn't in the field of play and ruled no play. That didn't happen, he caught it in bounds and controlled it until he stepped out of bounds, which at that point the play should be over with him controlling the ball before he stepped out.

The rule is a ridiculous rule and always has been, once you step out the play is over.

If that play from start to finish was inbounds there would be no controversy about the call.

Bad call, bad rule!
 
NDfan said:
TBH, a healthy Miami is probably the last team I would like to meet in the playoffs. I would like ND's chances against anyone else. Miami has a ton of elite pieces and Dawson is really, really good. Your DT's are easily the best in the game also. Takes away ND's usually tough run game.

You guys are right not to worry. You are in a good spot. Three games at home that you should win comfortably. You will be fine.
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Suck a fart out of a hairy *** you loser.
 
BlueGold said:
BRockCane98 said:
Because of pos ***** like you decided to come to a place where you aren't welcome and talk **** in a passive aggressive manner. Get a terminal illness and die.
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Get a terminal illness and die? Really? Over a football game? You got your priorities messed up. My brother just passed away. I could care less about a lousy football game when compared to wishing cancer and death on me. No need for me to post anymore on this site.
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How much less could you care?
 
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