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That was a fantastic call at the perfect moment by one of the absolute best in the business. It’s all predicated on the constraint plays and taking advantage of the way the defense has responded to those looks and actions. Every offense has this built in by nature - it’s up to Dawson to be able to make the right call at the right time. The creator of that content was spot on calling it a “chess match” because that’s exactly what it is.
 
We have very strong tendencies on O because the scheme is simple. The pass offense attacks outside the numbers short often intermediate occasionally and deep never. We run the ball inside the tackles 85% of the time from mostly 2 formations. This O is easy to prepare for and as the season has gone along has struggled to put up yards and points. Certainly is one of the least explosive offenses to make the playoffs.
 
HardCane said:
We have very strong tendencies on O because the scheme is simple. The pass offense attacks outside the numbers short often intermediate occasionally and deep never. We run the ball inside the tackles 85% of the time from mostly 2 formations. This O is easy to prepare for and as the season has gone along has struggled to put up yards and points. Certainly is one of the least explosive offenses to make the playoffs.
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As the season went along we put up more points and yards…
 
lurker said:
We tried a fake WR screen last game to slip Toney past the defense. They didn't fall for the fake, but Beck went through his progressions and found Marion (I think) on a dig route.
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Yes but this play is different. Defenses are following toney around the field like a puppy dog. That play didn't work because the defense is keying on Toney no matter where he goes. This play with the bears they leaked out one of the wide receivers who was blocking down field for the screen. That's the version we need to run. No one's paying attention to the wide receivers blocking. Everyone is keyed on toney.
 
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terdferguson said:
Yes but this play is different. Defenses are following toney around the field like a puppy dog. That play didn't work because the defense is keying on Toney no matter where he goes. This play with the bears they leaked out one of the wide receivers who was blocking down field for the screen. That's the version we need to run. No one's paying attention to the wide receivers blocking. Everyone is keyed on toney.
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Not sure how different the play was without seeing the all 22. Toney was the “fake blocker.” We’ve had success throughout the year with screens to Daniels so I had no issue running the fake to him. Teams run the fake scree all the time, beautiful when they work but most of the time they don’t.
 
terdferguson said:
Yes but this play is different. Defenses are following toney around the field like a puppy dog. That play didn't work because the defense is keying on Toney no matter where he goes. This play with the bears they leaked out one of the wide receivers who was blocking down field for the screen. That's the version we need to run. No one's paying attention to the wide receivers blocking. Everyone is keyed on toney.
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Agree…and maybe that started last game with Marion. Toney can still get his touches, but find ways to make him the eye candy.

I wouldn’t mind 3 WR to the field side with Toney short motion inside, fake the tunnel screen to him and look for the rail shot deep to Moore or Trader.
 
simplycanes said:
A HB screen or two out of our tight formations would be awesome.
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Did it to OSU a few times and hit Bauman on a big 3rd down in a similar way if that’s what you’re talking about. Marty had a big one and Fletcher had the huge TD. If that’s what you’re referring to if not just tell me to stfu (I agree wholeheartedly with you is the point I guess)

IIRC we maybe ran the WR screen once? Maybe not at all before the CJ screen that sealed the game. I could be wrong there but I really liked how we were working OSU in that game even though it didn’t light up the stat sheet

It showed you can actually be a little creative in tight short yardage plays
 
lurker said:
Not sure how different the play was without seeing the all 22. Toney was the “fake blocker.” We’ve had success throughout the year with screens to Daniels so I had no issue running the fake to him. Teams run the fake scree all the time, beautiful when they work but most of the time they don’t.
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True. Now that you mention it, toney was the blocker. Point still stands though. Much better chance of success if toney is the decoy and Marion or Daniels blocks and releases.
 
JHallCanes said:
Did it to OSU a few times and hit Bauman on a big 3rd down in a similar way if that’s what you’re talking about. Marty had a big one and Fletcher had the huge TD. If that’s what you’re referring to if not just tell me to stfu (I agree wholeheartedly with you is the point I guess)

IIRC we maybe ran the WR screen once? Maybe not at all before the CJ screen that sealed the game. I could be wrong there but I really liked how we were working OSU in that game even though it didn’t light up the stat sheet

It showed you can actually be a little creative in tight short yardage plays
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I can't remember the last time we ran a RB screen.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Did it to OSU a few times and hit Bauman on a big 3rd down in a similar way if that’s what you’re talking about. Marty had a big one and Fletcher had the huge TD. If that’s what you’re referring to if not just tell me to stfu (I agree wholeheartedly with you is the point I guess)

IIRC we maybe ran the WR screen once? Maybe not at all before the CJ screen that sealed the game. I could be wrong there but I really liked how we were working OSU in that game even though it didn’t light up the stat sheet

It showed you can actually be a little creative in tight short yardage plays
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Those were more "check downs" with one or two by design. I am referring to traditional HB screens where we show heavy run tendency keys, but let their front seven crash the run, then pass the ball over their heads to the RB.

An example of where I would break tendency is the TD to Mali against Ole Miss. The left guard pulls and he plus Brown sell the run to right side of the formation, but Beck instead tosses it to Toney with about 4 or 5 blockers.

IU is going to be incredibly keyed in on our WR/tunnel screens and wide passing game, so I would show the same formation and personnel, except this time I reverse the blockers and throw the screen to Brown while they're all keyed in on Toney. We have not shown that at all.
 
simplycanes said:
Those were more "check downs" with one or two by design. I am referring to traditional HB screens where we show heavy run tendency keys, but let their front seven crash the run, then pass the ball over their heads to the RB.

An example of where I would break tendency is the TD to Mali against Ole Miss. The left guard pulls and he plus Brown sell the run to right side of the formation, but Beck instead tosses it to Toney with about 4 or 5 blockers.

IU is going to be incredibly keyed in on our WR/tunnel screens and wide passing game, so I would show the same formation and personnel, except this time I reverse the blockers and throw the screen to Brown while they're all keyed in on Toney. We have not shown that at all.
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I’ll have to maybe grab some screens (pun unintended) because the couple plays I’m thinking of weren’t really check downs though we hit a lot of those

Maybe it’s semantics

Either way I’m right there with you
 
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