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Would love to see those two teams in the final. Forget FSU and Bama. TCU and Oregon are fun to watch and not your usual players in the big game.

Thoughts?

I know we all want for the U to be in it, but it's not happening this year so who do you all want?
 
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I think they will pit Alabama against FSU in the semifinals....they have the defense to shut FSU down, and they dnt want FSU to win it all again.... I think it will be alabama vs. Oregon with Oregon winning it all... Saban dnt like those up tempo offenses...
 
That would probably be the most entertaining game. I think both of those teams would lose to Alabama though.
 
919cane said:
I'm for anything besides FSU-Bama
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Man, I second that. I never want to see Bama or the Semenholes ever win a championship again.
The question is though, is Oregon just a mirage like 2010? I believe they came in against Auburn averaging close to 60 points a game and seemed unstoppable. Auburn, playing SEC style D, held them in check "Fairley" well and didn't need any last second heroics out of Newton to win the game. (unlike Felonious State last year)
 
Alabama will most likely win for one reason... and its the same reason we suck atm..... COACHING...... Oregon and staff are NOT going to out coach saban and co......

id be surprised if they out coached patterson and co...
 
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I think the Playoff has to be:
-If Baylor wins, they get in over TCU. They'd have head-head, and just have better wins. If you put TCU over Baylor, you are saying FSU deserved to get in over us in 2000.
-Only way TCU makes it in is if Bama, Baylor, or FSU loses.
-Oregon should move ahead of Bama, especially if Bama doesn't dominate Mizzou.
-If FSU wins (hopefully GT can pull out the win), they should be #3.
-If GT wins, they are also getting the Orange Bowl, sending FSU to the Chik-fil-A or something.

My prediction: #1 Oregon v #4 TCU, #2 Alabama v #3 Baylor. As you can see, I'm going for GT beating FSU.
 
calinative umstudent said:
I think the Playoff has to be:
-If Baylor wins, they get in over TCU. They'd have head-head, and just have better wins. If you put TCU over Baylor, you are saying FSU deserved to get in over us in 2000.
-Only way TCU makes it in is if Bama, Baylor, or FSU loses.
-Oregon should move ahead of Bama, especially if Bama doesn't dominate Mizzou.
-If FSU wins (hopefully GT can pull out the win), they should be #3.
-If GT wins, they are also getting the Orange Bowl, sending FSU to the Chik-fil-A or something.

My prediction: #1 Oregon v #4 TCU, #2 Alabama v #3 Baylor. As you can see, I'm going for GT beating FSU.
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Baylor doesn't have better wins. They put up a side by side comparison and TCU is ranked higher in Strength of Schedule and Strength of Win. All Baylor has is the head to head.

Also, the note about FSU getting in over us in 2000 is not correct because that was a BCS ranking system and those systems worked differently. There was no eye test. It was all algorithms and calculations done by a computer to rank teams. Undefeated teams were ranked highly by the BCS. It was one of the top factors it used. Today, people look at the team's and say which teams are the best. FSU is undefeated but everyone can argue in favor of them being number 4 as opposed to higher.
 
Oregon would do nothing on offense against Alabama's defense and Alabama would run over Oregon's defense. TCU would fare better but not by much.
 
wherrera8 said:
calinative umstudent said:
I think the Playoff has to be:
-If Baylor wins, they get in over TCU. They'd have head-head, and just have better wins. If you put TCU over Baylor, you are saying FSU deserved to get in over us in 2000.
-Only way TCU makes it in is if Bama, Baylor, or FSU loses.
-Oregon should move ahead of Bama, especially if Bama doesn't dominate Mizzou.
-If FSU wins (hopefully GT can pull out the win), they should be #3.
-If GT wins, they are also getting the Orange Bowl, sending FSU to the Chik-fil-A or something.

My prediction: #1 Oregon v #4 TCU, #2 Alabama v #3 Baylor. As you can see, I'm going for GT beating FSU.
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Baylor doesn't have better wins. They put up a side by side comparison and TCU is ranked higher in Strength of Schedule and Strength of Win. All Baylor has is the head to head.

Also, the note about FSU getting in over us in 2000 is not correct because that was a BCS ranking system and those systems worked differently. There was no eye test. It was all algorithms and calculations done by a computer to rank teams. Undefeated teams were ranked highly by the BCS. It was one of the top factors it used. Today, people look at the team's and say which teams are the best. FSU is undefeated but everyone can argue in favor of them being number 4 as opposed to higher.
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TCU and Baylors Strength of schedule is basically the same seeing has TCU is in the lower 40s and Baylor is around the 50s, the Big 12 doesn't have a championship game so if you were to look at it Baylor should be Big 12 Champs ahead of TCU ssince they beat TCU. Since the Big 12 doesn't have a conference championship and Baylor were to win tonight TCU and Baylor would be Co-Champs. The head to head should count against TCU, the only win that TCU has is over Minnesota which I don't know if their still ranked. Alabama is going to be #1 for the fact that they have the best win and it fiits for geography reasons since they would play in the sugar bowl. IMO that's why TCU is #3 since their fans can go to the rose bowl.
 
Lingo said:
wherrera8 said:
calinative umstudent said:
I think the Playoff has to be:
-If Baylor wins, they get in over TCU. They'd have head-head, and just have better wins. If you put TCU over Baylor, you are saying FSU deserved to get in over us in 2000.
-Only way TCU makes it in is if Bama, Baylor, or FSU loses.
-Oregon should move ahead of Bama, especially if Bama doesn't dominate Mizzou.
-If FSU wins (hopefully GT can pull out the win), they should be #3.
-If GT wins, they are also getting the Orange Bowl, sending FSU to the Chik-fil-A or something.

My prediction: #1 Oregon v #4 TCU, #2 Alabama v #3 Baylor. As you can see, I'm going for GT beating FSU.
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Baylor doesn't have better wins. They put up a side by side comparison and TCU is ranked higher in Strength of Schedule and Strength of Win. All Baylor has is the head to head.

Also, the note about FSU getting in over us in 2000 is not correct because that was a BCS ranking system and those systems worked differently. There was no eye test. It was all algorithms and calculations done by a computer to rank teams. Undefeated teams were ranked highly by the BCS. It was one of the top factors it used. Today, people look at the team's and say which teams are the best. FSU is undefeated but everyone can argue in favor of them being number 4 as opposed to higher.
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TCU and Baylors Strength of schedule is basically the same seeing has TCU is in the lower 40s and Baylor is around the 50s, the Big 12 doesn't have a championship game so if you were to look at it Baylor should be Big 12 Champs ahead of TCU ssince they beat TCU. Since the Big 12 doesn't have a conference championship and Baylor were to win tonight TCU and Baylor would be Co-Champs. The head to head should count against TCU, the only win that TCU has is over Minnesota which I don't know if their still ranked. Alabama is going to be #1 for the fact that they have the best win and it fiits for geography reasons since they would play in the sugar bowl. IMO that's why TCU is #3 since their fans can go to the rose bowl.
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I'm going off the comparison I saw on ESPN. TCU was ranked ahead of Baylor in all those categories.
 
CaniacMike21 said:
Oregon would do nothing on offense against Alabama's defense and Alabama would run over Oregon's defense. TCU would fare better but not by much.
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Alabama's Achilles heel has been mobile QBs. I can see Mariotta having his way with that secondary the way Nick Marshall and Manziel have. At the end of the day if Alabama wins it all it will be a testament to Saban as Blake Sims might be the worst QB ever on a top 10 team.
 
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bama, like every team, struggles with a mobile qb. But how many of those teams have actually beat bama or stopped them from winning like 3 of the last 6 ships?

Bama is just a powerhouse with their coaching staff..... its the x factor..... that and the obvious espn/media bias. lol
 
I can see FSU losing this game. They have had issues with the run this year and GT is going to run it on them all night. That would put Baylor and TCU in I think
 
wherrera8 said:
calinative umstudent said:
I think the Playoff has to be:
-If Baylor wins, they get in over TCU. They'd have head-head, and just have better wins. If you put TCU over Baylor, you are saying FSU deserved to get in over us in 2000.
-Only way TCU makes it in is if Bama, Baylor, or FSU loses.
-Oregon should move ahead of Bama, especially if Bama doesn't dominate Mizzou.
-If FSU wins (hopefully GT can pull out the win), they should be #3.
-If GT wins, they are also getting the Orange Bowl, sending FSU to the Chik-fil-A or something.

My prediction: #1 Oregon v #4 TCU, #2 Alabama v #3 Baylor. As you can see, I'm going for GT beating FSU.
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Baylor doesn't have better wins. They put up a side by side comparison and TCU is ranked higher in Strength of Schedule and Strength of Win. All Baylor has is the head to head.

Also, the note about FSU getting in over us in 2000 is not correct because that was a BCS ranking system and those systems worked differently. There was no eye test. It was all algorithms and calculations done by a computer to rank teams. Undefeated teams were ranked highly by the BCS. It was one of the top factors it used. Today, people look at the team's and say which teams are the best. FSU is undefeated but everyone can argue in favor of them being number 4 as opposed to higher.
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Baylor has every win that TCU does (if they beat KSt today). the only difference is TCU beat Minnesota, who isn't even ranked. A better win is much better than a good loss. The FSU situation is the exact same. they got in because they had a better loss than we did (they lost to us, we lost to UW). At that point the BCS system didn't value wins more than losses, especially when it came to head to head. Why do you think they changed it. TCU over Baylor is using the same principles as the old BCS did to put FSU over us, because you're saying TCU has a better loss than Baylor does, even though the loss was the head to head loss. As of right now, TCU is ahead only because Baylor has not played Kst.
 
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CaniacMike21 said:
Oregon would do nothing on offense against Alabama's defense and Alabama would run over Oregon's defense. TCU would fare better but not by much.
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Spot on.
Alabama is the best team in college football this year....Again. This will be, what? NC no. 15 for them? ****......just ****.
 
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