Strength & Conditioning - Injury Prevention

[User-4525]

I don't think Miami has any more injuries than anyone else. The only thing out of the normal are the two career ending neck injuries but those are freak plays where guys used poor technique making blocks by lowering their head. That's not S&C.

I partially agree with this, however, I was trying to see a comparison to Golden. We've had a lot of lower extermity injuries in the past two years: Herndon, Richards, Walton, Irvin, Perry, Djax, Evidence Njoku, Gordinier, and now Lingard.

8 season ending knee injuries in 1 and half years is alarming. My memory may be off, but I never remember that many in a 2 year span under previous regimes. Some other posters mentioned that Richt's players had knee issues at UGA as well. I want to see if this is a trend or an outlier

 

[User-4525]

So now an S&C program is more predisposed for ACL tears as opposed to others? That's some of the dumbest **** i've ever heard

One of the main responsibilities of a S&C program is to prevent injuries. I'm just asking questions to see if this a trend of Richt's players dating back to UGA and if we've had more injuries than Golden. Relax

 

[User-4525]

I think that no matter what happens, people blame S&C. Players are rarely strong enough, and those that are are too slow. Now it's injuries. One way or another, people cast about for a scapegoat and they usually end up with S&C.

It's all well and good to say that job #1 is getting the guys to the game, but the dudes saying that are working with grown-*** men. I doubt there's much emphasis on bulking up NBA guys or increasing their speed much. Same with NFL. It's not that they couldn't benefit from being bigger/faster, it's just that they're grown and the amount they can gain is smaller.

Have we had injuries? Yes. An unusual number of them? I'm not at all sure about that.

Appreciate the response

 

[User-4525]

That’s why I’m asking. Too lazy to do that **** myself. Looking for a CiS savior. It feels like we’ve had more serious injuries, but that feeling means nothing.

I’m asking after the lingard injury because the topic is timely.

Do you have any data to back up your claim that injuries have increased?

Without the stats, just asking posters right after an injury to Lingard is only poking the hornets nest

I never claimed that btw. I posed a question in response to Lingard's injury. The hornets' nest should be poked sometimes. We don't dial back discussion when we lose a recruit. By my count, we've had 8 season ending knee injuries and 2 career ending neck injuries in the past 18 games

 

[canesarchitect]

You need to know if Lingards injury was from contact or not. If we are having a rash of non contact injuries then it needs to be looked into

If you ever played sports you would know that you can injury yourself twisting, turning, pushing all at the same time in the wrong direction. Non contact.

 

[Heals85]

This was brought up before but I have to wonder if Felder is spending enough time doing supplemental exercises specifically for knee health and stability. For instance doing exercises for the VMO(Vastus Medialis Oblique). All the videos I have seen of Felder and his staff leading workouts don't see any of that just the old school basic lifts nothing along injury prevention. He might but I haven't seen any of it.

 

[svtcane]

If you ever played sports you would know that you can injury yourself twisting, turning, pushing all at the same time in the wrong direction. Non contact.

Trust me I know I just retired 20 year ranger. I wasn't worried about it lol. I said rash meaning alot of guys tearing alc's just jogging etc. Which isn't the case I dont believe there's a problem in the strength program pertaining to injuries.

 

[Calinative]

If non contact ACL injuries were simply preventable by having top S&C programs, then why the **** are there any NFL players tearing their ACL on a yearly basis? Why do Bama players get injured on a yearly basis?

lol this is just plain stupid.

 

[User-4525]

If non contact ACL injuries were simply preventable by having top S&C programs, then why the **** are there any NFL players tearing their ACL on a yearly basis? Why do Bama players get injured on a yearly basis?

lol this is just plain stupid.

Because this is what I said. First, I didn't mention anything about non-contact vs. contact. Second, I want to understand further understand what we do for injury prevention and Richt's history of injury prevention. We've had 7-8 season ending knee injuries in the last 18 games. Perry and Walton's seasons ended on lower leg injuries. We've had 3 season/career ending neck injuries as well. That concerns me. It could become a trend or it could be an outlier. We don't know at this point. A lot of people have brought up Richt's players at UGA having knee problems as well.

No good discussion will come if everyone thinks every discussion has to be all or nothing - I hope you know that is a um grad. Richt is the promised one or Richt is a failure. S&C will prevent all injuries or S&C can't prevent any injuries. Perry is a God or Perry is the worst qb we've ever had. All that **** is for the birds.

Of course we're going to have injuries. Everyone has injuries. None of my questions stated anything close to what you talked about. If you would've read or understood what I wrote, you could've saw that. The two coaches I quoted have had numerous injuries to their players so it's not like I was trying to hide behind a quote from Lebron's trainer.

 

[90scane]

What about the neck injuries?

Gayot
Wilder
Young
Richards

What if Richt's practices are actually more physical than Golden's?

 

[User-4525]

What about the neck injuries?

Gayot
Wilder
Young
Richards

What if Richt's practices are actually more physical than Golden's?

gayot happened under golden.

I have no doubt Richt's practices are more physical than Golden

 

[Twin_Cane]

What’s that supposed to mean? Cam is first in line to not play now?

I mean hopefully he can get some meaningful reps

 

[Shooter McGavin]

I mean hopefully he can get some meaningful reps

He will be 3rd string but I doubt he will get any meaningful reps unless something happens to Homer or Dallas.

 

[Twin_Cane]

In

He will be 3rd string but I doubt he will get any meaningful reps unless something happens to Homer or Dallas.

Or at punt returner

 

[Shooter McGavin]

In


Or at punt returner

Pope on kickoffs maybe or Harley

 

[moshated305]

What about the neck injuries?

Gayot
Wilder
Young
Richards

What if Richt's practices are actually more physical than Golden's?

Gayot was before the current staff. Herb Waters also had a neck injury under the previous staff.

Richards said his happened like blocking. Young was running down on a kickoff and went head first into a defender. Not sure about Wilder but I would bet it was probably poor technique, lowering/leading with their heads. That has nothing to do with your S&C program.

 

[gabednconfused]

In the past 18 games, we've had 7 season ending knee injuries, 1 career ending knee injury, 1 season ending neck injury, and 2 career ending neck injuries.

Do you think the number of serious injuries has increased compared to the previous regimes? How much do you attribute to freak accidents and how much do you attribute to poor injury prevention? Need more time to tell?

Asinine to suggest this. I think stupid comments like this come from people who literally have never played a down of competitive football in their life.

The fact more injuries don't come these days is because of S&T, rehab, pre and post practice prep and nutrition and hydration. If you go play a full football season from major highschool to NFL, you will get injured. Every single player that plays meaningful snaps will have some type of injury; from nagging to debilitating. There is no 'training' regiment that will prevent knee ligament damage from sudden unusual movements on field. You can only do your best to mitigate them with preventative measures.

Idiotic.

 

[gabednconfused]

Gayot was before the current staff. Herb Waters also had a neck injury under the previous staff.

Richards said his happened like blocking. Young was running down on a kickoff and went head first into a defender. Not sure about Wilder but I would bet it was probably poor technique, lowering/leading with their heads. That has nothing to do with your S&C program.

This right here.

 

[Dingaan1828]

As for the career-ending neck injuries: who knows if these injuries would have been deemed career-ending 10 or 15 years ago? I believe there is a much more cautious attitude toward injuries in all levels of football than we were several years ago.

 

[User-4525]

Asinine to suggest this. I think stupid comments like this come from people who literally have never played a down of competitive football in their life.

The fact more injuries don't come these days is because of S&T, rehab, pre and post practice prep and nutrition and hydration. If you go play a full football season from major highschool to NFL, you will get injured. Every single player that plays meaningful snaps will have some type of injury; from nagging to debilitating. There is no 'training' regiment that will prevent knee ligament damage from sudden unusual movements on field. You can only do your best to mitigate them with preventative measures.

Idiotic.

I never suggested anything contrary to the underlined. Not even close. What exactly am I suggesting? I put out FACTS. We've had X amount of season/career ending injuries. Then I asked QUESTIONS. Is there more season/career ending injuries than we saw under Golden? Is this an outlier or a trend we should be concerned about?

And the bolded is exactly what I asked. Are we doing the best to mitigate them or are we doing a subpar job? You guys are so **** bent on calling some dumb you're putting strawmans out there.