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TheEye said:
Rejoice at S&P 5000!
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I’m getting conservative in my old age. The big older companies seem to be rising faster than the newcomers in so many fields. Yes sometimes you pick a big winner, but slow and steady wins the race. Lately the big companies aren’t moving up slowly. They are pounding the competition. What a run…especially in tech.
 
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mr.h said:
I’m getting conservative in my old age. The big older companies seem to be rising faster than the newcomers in so many fields. Yes sometimes you pick a big winner, but slow and steady wins the race. Lately the big companies aren’t moving up slowly. They are pounding the competition. What a run…especially in tech.
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Invest in the longterm and invest in large caps. Always beats the bonds.
 
can anyone explain why someone should invest in the sp500 when it’s rate of growth is almost the same as the m2 supply(4% when factoring in m2)? While I get that it at least keeps you from losing money, it doesn’t actually build a lot wealth. This is coming from someone that has lived off of his spy investment in the past.

the growth to 5000 could simply be getting it back in line with M2. The Fed is shedding assets on its balance sheet which is killing M2 and the 500 is growing thus we should be getting closer to balanced every month.

it seems that real wealth is built privately not via public companies,
 
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Crazy 3 months, my account has increased 36% since November 1st.

And that’s with Tesla holding me back. It has become my #3 holding and maybe become my #4 holding if DWAC continues its trend and gets to $50
 
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Cmuri said:
Crazy 3 months, my account has increased 36% since November 1st.

And that’s with Tesla holding me back. It has become my #3 holding and maybe become my #4 holding if DWAC continues its trend and gets to $50
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I’m up 10% for this year. Don’t have november numbers.
Biggest % loser is Digital Turbine.
Biggest $ loser is Tesla
Biggest % gainer- Nvidia
Biggest $ gainer- Nvidia
 
GladeCane said:
Went all in on NVDA a little over two weeks ago and up 21%!

Huge, huge trade for me.
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Well Done Clapping GIF by MOODMAN
 
90scane said:
can anyone explain why someone should invest in the sp500 when it’s rate of growth is almost the same as the m2 supply(4% when factoring in m2)? While I get that it at least keeps you from losing money, it doesn’t actually build a lot wealth. This is coming from someone that has lived off of his spy investment in the past.

the growth to 5000 could simply be getting it back in line with M2. The Fed is shedding assets on its balance sheet which is killing M2 and the 500 is growing thus we should be getting closer to balanced every month.

it seems that real wealth is built privately not via public companies,
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Being in the stock market and owning public companies is usually secondary income. Owning VOO or SPY gives an investor diversity, with low fees and usually a better return than fixed income. It’s a great investment for newbies and should be a part of their investment strategy. [401k]. Look up the return for 1 year, 5 years and further out. There is also a small dividend.
 
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mr.h said:
Being in the stock market and owning public companies is usually secondary income. Owning VOO or SPY gives an investor diversity, with low fees and usually a better return than fixed income. It’s a great investment for newbies and should be a part of their investment strategy. [401k]. Look up the return for 1 year, 5 years and further out. There is also a small dividend.
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Look up the return minus the growth of m2 over the last 25years=4%. Clearly, you missed my point.
 
90scane said:
Look up the return minus the growth of m2 over the last 25years=4%. Clearly, you missed my point.
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If you are talking about the money supply affect on inflation and interest rates, than I haven’t. If not, please explain.
The S&P clearly beats bonds, mm funds, CD’s and cash and is safe passive investment. VOO ans SPY, one year out has returned over 23% this year. That is what I am saying. Of course there are better investments in individual stocks and private investments if you pick the right ones, take more risk or have the funds to do so.
 
mr.h said:
If you are talking about the money supply affect on inflation and interest rates, than I haven’t. If not, please explain.
The S&P clearly beats bonds, mm funds, CD’s and cash and is safe passive investment. VOO ans SPY, one year out has returned over 23% this year. That is what I am saying. Of course there are better investments in individual stocks and private investments if you pick the right ones, take more risk or have the funds to do so.
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There is a very good reason why billionaires are happy with a 2% return
 
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90scane said:
can anyone explain why someone should invest in the sp500 when it’s rate of growth is almost the same as the m2 supply(4% when factoring in m2)? While I get that it at least keeps you from losing money, it doesn’t actually build a lot wealth. This is coming from someone that has lived off of his spy investment in the past.

the growth to 5000 could simply be getting it back in line with M2. The Fed is shedding assets on its balance sheet which is killing M2 and the 500 is growing thus we should be getting closer to balanced every month.

it seems that real wealth is built privately not via public companies,
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That may be so, but the vast majority or people do not have access to non-public investments. If you don’t own your own business and aren’t going through real estate, then what are you left with?
 
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CPI higher than expected…int. rates yields up
Rents up 90…M2 growing
Rate cuts will be delayed. A lot of price increases in certain fields. We also have a hot economy…
 
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Fluffhead said:
That may be so, but the vast majority or people do not have access to non-public investments. If you don’t own your own business and aren’t going through real estate, then what are you left with?
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There are a few ways to invest in non-public investments. Here are two examples.

https://www.angelcapitalassociation.org/ . You can find an angel investment group and buy shares of start-ups or funds that invest in start-ups.

HIIVE is for pre-IPO companies that have private shares: https://www.hiive.com/securities/spacex-stock (picked SpaceX as I am very bullish)

I'm sure I could find more but would agree that starting a business and/or real estate are two of the best ways to grow your investments.
 
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