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hurricaneman said:
And we won every game we were supposed to last year. People keep bringing up FIU and La Tech but that didn't happen last year. We played very well against inferior opponents. Diaz may not be the answer but there's a difference between equating getting blown out by Bama to "OMG we lost to Bama, it's all the same because we also lost to FIU and La Tech two years ago" and another person saying getting beat by FIU and losing to Bama aren't comparable.
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I'm pretty sure we thought we were going to win the Carolina game. **** we were favored. Diaz has been on the other side of these losses for 6 straight years. His defenses do not show up.
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
Jesus Christ man. Give it up, relating this to bama, Ohio state, and or Clemson. All three of them show up in big games. All 3 have won natty’s.

Miami has gotten blown out in big games since Diaz has taken over. This isn’t a one off thing for Christ’s sake. Y’all are doing mental ******* gymnastics to make this loss some moral victory. It’s not. It’s a trend.

beat app state and let’s run the table. But let’s not act like this isn’t the norm under Diaz: not prepared, unmotivated to start games, and undisciplined play
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About as accurate as you can get. No one has said that Saban with Bama is perfect. But dude has won 6 national titles in about a 12-13 year time frame and looks primed for #7 this year. You're afforded an occasional **** game at that position. Plus, Clemson had a stacked NFL defensive line with 3 1st rounders and one of the best QB prospects in Trevor Lawrence. That Clemson team was insanely good.

Miami, as mentioned, has been crapping the bed in these big time games. There's a difference between getting smoked once and getting smoked consistently.
 
You could use this game as an example of the other mindset as well. Fluke games happen, lesser talented teams can get the most of their talent at the right time. It doesn’t need to happen every time.

Miami could’ve shown up and outperformed expectations last week just one time, the way Clemson did in that game, but instead laid an egg.
 
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Allabouttheu95 said:
We weren’t supposed to beat Oklahoma state? LOL we went down by 21 to start the game.

We weren’t supposed to beat UNC even though we were favored? Lost 62-26 giving up 800 yards of offense

once again stop the **** mental gymnastics. Every orange and green argument y’all make There is a counter argument that is even bleaker than the moral victories
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Manny is in year 3 of his coaching career. Anyone who is forecasting his career as bad, even though he has gone 6-7, 8-3, and just lost to #1 team in America probably just enjoys the attention of being provocative or the chaos of the coaching search.

Manny has improved his record, coaching staff and talent evidently in the 2 years since he's been here. Until he steps backward he's the man for the job.

We did not take a step backward against Alabama.
 
orange&green84 said:
But dude has won 6 national titles in about a 12-13 year time frame and looks primed for #7 this year.
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Saban won #7 last year .... if he wins another national championship, it will be #8 . maybe you forgot the one he won with LSU in 2003
 
HurikaneMarc said:
Manny is in year 3 of his coaching career. Anyone who is forecasting his career as bad, even though he has gone 6-7, 8-3, and just lost to #1 team in America probably just enjoys the attention of being provocative or the chaos of the coaching search.

Manny has improved his record, coaching staff and talent evidently in the 2 years since he's been here. Until he steps backward he's the man for the job.

We did not take a step backward against Alabama.
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No I think we stood pat but that was pretty frustrating. In the Butch era the switch flip was almost psychological. We were still capable of getting blown out by Syracuse by 53 yet had the talent to upset a top 5 team a week later. We don't have the talent to beat Bama but we have the talent to compete. We should be competitive at this point with the elite teams. Now if Bama just guillotines their whole schedule and no one comes close all year that's a different story.
 
Diaz ain’t it Brodie, not because he lost to Alabama, because he lost to FIU and last year got stomped by NC. Unless he starts winning then I’m jumping on the bandwagon and disowning the MOPES.
 
“It’s fine our coach killed a guy, plenty of other people have done that too.”

Your statement was probably dumber than the one I just made.
 
mdpcane said:
getting "blown out" or not is not even close to the main issue of Miami's problems for the last almost 20 years.

if you lost by 1 point or you lose by 50, a loss is still a loss.

losses hurt recruiting and they sure as **** do not win championships. win by 1 point or lose by 1 point... the only thing that
counts are Ws and Ls . Poor coaching and play do not get you Ws and championships. that's not rocket surgery !

anyone who thinks how many points you lose by is really important is like someone who is upset that the menu for supper on
the night the Titanic sank was not any good.

who gives a rat's *** that the mashed potatoes were cold and lumpy and the meat was overdone and tasted like crap that night .....
the ******* SHIP SANK !!!

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Complete and utter garbage. How you play matters. No idea how some fans don't see that. Sure, losing by 1 or 50 doesn't change your standing, but it goes a long way towards so many categories that aren't a box score. You really think that it's the same to go 7-6, and lost the 6 by less than a score and had the team fighting to the end, or getting absolutely shellacked by 50 game in and game out? You think that's the same team? It tells you so many things about a team, and I guarantee it matters to recruits that see you are either losing and have something to build on, or losing and are just a $h!t show.

I mean, as a fan, why even watch the games if you could care less how well we play, just go look at the box scores at the end and call it a day. And btw, it's always hilarious watching fans surprised when we lose to a lesser team when the weeks before that we did win, we played like ***. You didn't see it coming, probably not, because how we play never entered into your cranium. Ever see a team win a ton of games and then get bent over in a bowl (ND). The W/L's were not a measure of the team, just something to hide behind and thus set you up for the reality of the embarrassment.

And bottom line, if you end a season somewhere in the middle of the pack 6-7, 7-6, 8-6 whatever, does it really matter? Nobody will remember you being average.
 
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theibisrules said:
The slurper band is in water up to their necks and they are like "come on in the waters fine"
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I think what most are missing here is this is not about slurping or thinking Manny is the real deal. This is about we're in year 3, let's see this season and see if we win the games we are supposed to. If we go through the rest of the year without another loss or maybe just 1, there will be a lot of silent folks here only looking to negatively comment when an opportunity arises. If we lose 3 or more games, he'll rightly deserve the criticism headed his way. In year 3, Dabo was on the hot seat too with a 6-7 record, 10-4 the next year. Now the same people who criticized him then would love to have Dabo here.
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
We weren’t supposed to beat Oklahoma state? LOL we went down by 21 to start the game.

We weren’t supposed to beat UNC even though we were favored? Lost 62-26 giving up 800 yards of offense

once again stop the **** mental gymnastics. Every orange and green argument y’all make There is a counter argument that is even bleaker than the moral victories
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poncho0091 said:
This is not to support Diaz, but just a reminder, **** games happen. We didn't expect to win this game, and many expected to get dominated. Obviously, that's not where we want to be, but it's what we all knew. With that said, Look at Clemson mashing Bama a few years back. Bama was expected to give a challenge in that championship game and got smoked. Let's get a few games in and see what happens this season. We all came into the season expecting no more than 2 losses, hopefully 1. We may still achieve that.

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I understand your point and it does ring true. If it were one game. We are currently on a 3 game losing streak. Teams were up on us 34-3, 21-0, 27-0 during those games. It is becoming a trend against decent to good teams for Miami to get their cheeks clapped. It needs to stop.
 
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