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Have a cousin looking into stem cell injections for shoulder rehab. He has a friend who just had an injection in his right shoulder and he had a dramatic improvement in shoulder mobility in a very reduced time frame. Apparently some of the new stem cell harvesting procedures eliminate the "moral dilemma" involved with stem cells sourced from embryos, and involve umbilical cord blood and some fat tissue.

Any experts on CIS who, despite not knowing who the next OC will be, have some professional opinions regarding stem cell therapy for joint rehabilitation?
 
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There is nothing new about stem cells and solving an issue using embryonic stem cells. Stem cells can be extracted from one's own body. I had this performed several years ago from an achilles tendon issue. Worked very well.
 
TemplarCane said:
There is nothing new about stem cells and solving an issue using embryonic stem cells. Stem cells can be extracted from one's own body. I had this performed several years ago from an achilles tendon issue. Worked very well.
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Really haven't done the research on this yet but there are some differences between embryonic stem cells and those harvested from your own body (i.e., bone marrow or fat tissue) which I believe are referred to as MSC (mesenchymal) stem cells. One of the more common procedures using your own stem cells I have seen described as:

-Stem cells sourced from bone marrow in patients hip.
-Those PLURIPOTENT stem cells
-Plus platelets from the patients blood
-Plus white blood cells from the patients blood
are injected into the injured site and help facilitate a degree of tissue regeneration in the damaged area

Is that the procedure you had done?
 
Rickd said:
Really haven't done the research on this yet but there are some differences between embryonic stem cells and those harvested from your own body (i.e., bone marrow or fat tissue) which I believe are referred to as MSC (mesenchymal) stem cells. One of the more common procedures using your own stem cells I have seen described as:

-Stem cells sourced from bone marrow in patients hip.
-Those PLURIPOTENT stem cells
-Plus platelets from the patients blood
-Plus white blood cells from the patients blood
are injected into the injured site and help facilitate a degree of tissue regeneration in the damaged area

Is that the procedure you had done?
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Yes, sounds about right, They did draw blood/marrow from my hip.
 
The element they've not accompanied that with is a gentle DC voltage that not only helps get the cells and tissues in the "right" place, but also initiates and accelerates the healing.

In the case of a broken bone - and there is non-union - it's not healing, it's not rejoining - the gentle application of DC causes the re-union so fast, it's almost unbelievable.
 
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Angry Ibis said:
@Rickd

Let us know how this turns out.
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I am going to follow the experience and track the results of my cousin's buddy that had a shoulder procedure done with stem cells. There definitely is a lot of experimental work being done in the field and for sure there are some over-hyped clinics charging major bucks and to some degree "bait and switch" procedures.
 
My wife and a good friend both had a good experience with the procedure, which is being continually improved. They went to Dr. Purita in Boca.
 
SpikeUM said:
My wife and a good friend both had a good experience with the procedure, which is being continually improved. They went to Dr. Purita in Boca.
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Any idea of what TYPE stem cells were used? Umbilical cord blood, fat tissue, or from the patients bone marrow (usually the hip)?
 
For those interested there is a Stem Cell Market Research firm ... not connected with any specific clinic ... that does provide some information on procedure protocol differences and also names some of the more veteran and experienced clinics. BIOINFORMANT.com is the site ... and the founder is a rugby player who, after several knee surgeries, several draining procedures, etc., etc., had a STEM CELL procedure done by a clinic associated with REGENEX. He is now playing rugby again and working out full speed (his procedure was done by National Spine and Pain Center Fairfax, Virginia by Dr. Mayo Friedlis).

The Mayo Clinic is also listed as a pioneer in stem cell therapy procedures having initiated protocols in 1963.
 
Rickd said:
Have a cousin looking into stem cell injections for shoulder rehab. He has a friend who just had an injection in his right shoulder and he had a dramatic improvement in shoulder mobility in a very reduced time frame. Apparently some of the new stem cell harvesting procedures eliminate the "moral dilemma" involved with stem cells sourced from embryos, and involve umbilical cord blood and some fat tissue.

Any experts on CIS who, despite not knowing who the next OC will be, have some professional opinions regarding stem cell therapy for joint rehabilitation?
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I had that and PRP for knee, ultumately fixed via surgery.

Useless in my opinion.

We did a study in DoD traditional knee surgery vs stem cell vs PRP injections ($25K a pop btw back then).

Knee surgery crushed both stem cell injections and PRP in terms of patient satisfaction and return to normal use.

Please keep in mind this was several years ago...

Of course, your mileage may vary....
 
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