State of the Art College Football Facilities

[Earnest T. Bass]

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said: But ***** wants to use that money to add crushed velvet lining to the lockers and full length mirrors with inlaid Swarovski crystals...that way we can land some bloodthirsty savages.

That thinking, if accepted, means other programs, who are smart and forward thinking, will gain an insurmountable advantage over the Canes. This is already in full swing as for example; the Gators are in the process of investing $100,000,000 (yes, one hundred million dollars) for construction of a new athletic compound and a standalone football facility.

Recently, a big topic of conversation has been Miami underclassman opting for the NFL draft (McIntosh and Norton). Some believe that due to the wealth these players see in the South Florida area it motivates them to leave early for the cash. Those people could be on to something. When you follow their reasoning to its logical conclusion those same type of players as recruits must also be enthralled when visiting the Clemson’s, Alabama’s, Oregon’s and a horde of other college football programs that have jaw dropping football facilities (video links below). Furthermore, not only have those facilities become a magnet for the best 5 star players in the country, but they may even play a role in retention of underclassman.

“A decade of rampant athletics construction across the country has redefined what it takes to field a competitive top-tier college sports program. Football stadiums and basketball arenas now must be complemented by practice facilities, professional-quality locker rooms, players' lounges with high-definition televisions and video game systems, and luxury suites to coax more money from boosters.”

“The University of Tennessee built a $45 million Training Center, a 145,000-square-foot home for its football team with a two-story weight room, hydrotherapy room, amphitheater-style team meeting room and a public entrance featuring a water wall and museum commemorating Volunteers football history.” I’ll save the naysayers the trouble of posting that those facilities have not paid off for Tennessee football…YET!!!

“Virginia and Rutgers, athletic departments both highly dependent on student fees, have new football headquarters on their wish lists. And at Maryland, the university is planning a $155 million project to convert Cole Field House, its former basketball arena, into an indoor football practice facility, new locker rooms and offices for football, a training center for all athletes and an "Academy of Innovation and Entrepreneurship" for students. University of South Florida has committed $45,000.000 towards football facilities”

“Clemson Athletic Director, Dan Radakovich, asked Dabo Swinney what he needed to take Clemson football to the next level. Swinney jotted down a few BIG ideas for a football headquarters. I really thought he would take that piece of paper and just laugh," Swinney said. "But he didn't. ... every dream starts with a dreamer."

To be clear; I deplore what big money has done to college football, and what it will do in the future, but if you are going to compete at the highest level then new state of the art athletic facilities will be the price of admission. And yes, I am fully aware of the challenges Miami faces in funding such ventures, but despite the wonderful new indoor practice facility the Canes are already significantly behind most all of the top football schools, which makes me worry for the future of the program.

Finally if you take a kid to a Four Season Hotel with extraordinary management and then take him to a Days Inn with comparable management, where will he elect to stay? Bring a 5 star player to a college with a state of the art athletic compound whose coaching staff is also 5 star, and then bring him to a college who isn’t in the same universe facility wise, but also has a 5 star coaching staff…where is he most likely to sign? By the way; it is those headwinds that make the job Mark Richt and his staff have done concerning the 2018 recruiting class nothing short of remarkable.

PHOTOS: Clemson's new $55 million football facility - Business Insider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lupS-rvh6Zw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMQ7eso_a8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMvru1j4tp8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta_uTdXl-tE[/FONT]

 

[kplantz24]

Did the Penn st video show the new showers where they'll ignore children being raped?


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[Earnest T. Bass]

Did the Penn st video show the new showers where they'll ignore children being raped?


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Partner...that is your territory so I'll leave that up to you to figure out. Although, I don't mean to disappoint you, but I don't think that is part of their current curriculum...sorry!

 

[DrStrange]

You're in the bottom five worst posters in the history of CIS.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

You're in the bottom five worst posters in the history of CIS.

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[1mg of Epi]

Miami will never be able to outdo the bigger schools in terms of facilities, so as always, the sales pitch will highlite other benefits of the U. There’s also gotta be a point of diminishing returns here, so we don’t need to keep up with Bama. Instead we just need to keep improving facilities as possible. The university had done a good job here the last few years.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

You're in the bottom five worst posters in the history of CIS.

Thank you! Your comment is especially meaningful when recognizing your brilliant work on this blog, such as; "Can Cane "fans" stop swinging from 'bama's nuts every five seconds please?" Wow! No one can ever deny that you are a deep thinker. Your words are intelligent, profound and life changing. You have my vote as the top five best posters in the history of CIS! By the way, I get the sense you've done a little nut swinging yourself.

 

[kryptonite]

Miami will never be able to outdo the bigger schools in terms of facilities, so as always, the sales pitch will highlite other benefits of the U. There’s also gotta be a point of diminishing returns here, so we don’t need to keep up with Bama. Instead we just need to keep improving facilities as possible. The university had done a good job here the last few years.

Not only don't we need to, we can't. OP can post all the articles and diagrams he wants, but none of that matters. If we spend as much as bama, they'll just spend more. At some point we're going to be outspent, so we best do the best we can with what we've got. And the fact remains that velvet lined lockers aren't the best use of our money.

 

[Pearson704]

We've got the geographic advantage and just need quality coaching. We won't get all the kids down here but the ones who gravitate toward the legacy, lifestyle, and desire to compete are who built this []_[]. Those other schools need all the bells and whistles because they can't compete with our brand and culture outside campus. You use what you got. Simple.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Miami will never be able to outdo the bigger schools in terms of facilities, so as always, the sales pitch will highlite other benefits of the U. There’s also gotta be a point of diminishing returns here, so we don’t need to keep up with Bama. Instead we just need to keep improving facilities as possible. The university had done a good job here the last few years.

My worry is the college landscape is rapidly changing and programs that don't keep up with the facilities arms race will most likely become regulars in hoping to stay in the top 20, so keeping up with Bama, no matter how unrealistic, I believe is a necessity. I do agree with your other comments. Hopefully, the Canes can lasso a Phil Knight or Boone Pickens type of donor (Frost?).

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Miami will never be able to outdo the bigger schools in terms of facilities, so as always, the sales pitch will highlite other benefits of the U. There’s also gotta be a point of diminishing returns here, so we don’t need to keep up with Bama. Instead we just need to keep improving facilities as possible. The university had done a good job here the last few years.

Not only don't we need to, we can't. OP can post all the articles and diagrams he wants, but none of that matters. If we spend as much as bama, they'll just spend more. At some point we're going to be outspent, so we best do the best we can with what we've got. And the fact remains that velvet lined lockers aren't the best use of our money.

We don't need too? Ridiculous! The only question...can we keep-up? High school kids are attracted to shiny objects and many have never seen the opulence that these programs are now bringing to college football. You can deny what's happening all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that college football is in the process of going to the next level. Get on board or get left at the station. Our glorious past is becoming dated and what is meaningful to the older generation of Canes does not have the same appeal to an 18 year old kid. Due to Mark Richt 5 star players will still join the Canes, but those will be one or two per recruiting cycle, not the 5, 6, 7 or more that the cutting edge programs now draw.

Look no further than Dabo Swinney's words and then what he has accomplished.

 

[NJshoreCane]

Finally if you take a kid to a Four Season Hotel with extraordinary management and then take him to a Days Inn with comparable management, where will he elect to stay?

A similar comparison may be Four Seasons to a Weston.
Then the question is asked, do I want to stay at a Four Seasons in western PA, Clemson, Norman Oklahoma, or Alabama?....or, at a Weston in Coral Gables Florida?

We can not compete with these schools as far as sheer numbers and resources off the field.
That's why it will be so much sweeter when we beat them on the field.

 

[NJshoreCane]

Miami will never be able to outdo the bigger schools in terms of facilities, so as always, the sales pitch will highlite other benefits of the U. There’s also gotta be a point of diminishing returns here, so we don’t need to keep up with Bama. Instead we just need to keep improving facilities as possible. The university had done a good job here the last few years.

Not only don't we need to, we can't. OP can post all the articles and diagrams he wants, but none of that matters. If we spend as much as bama, they'll just spend more. At some point we're going to be outspent, so we best do the best we can with what we've got. And the fact remains that velvet lined lockers aren't the best use of our money.

We don't need too? Ridiculous! The only question...can we keep-up? High school kids are attracted to shiny objects and many have never seen the opulence that these programs are now bringing to college football. You can deny what's happening all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that college football is in the process of going to the next level. Get on board or get left at the station. Our glorious past is becoming dated and what is meaningful to the older generation of Canes does not have the same appeal to an 18 year old kid. Due to Mark Richt 5 star players will still join the Canes, but those will be one or two per recruiting cycle, not the 5, 6, 7 or more that the cutting edge programs now draw.

Look no further than Dabo Swinney's words and then what he has accomplished.

So, you identified a perceived problem.
I'm not winning a billion $ in the lottery and our current fans/alumni donors are not going to start quadrupling their donations anytime soon.
What is your solution?

 

[Angry Ibis]

Puts a lot of effort into being a pain in the ***

 

[rok]

Our IPF will legitimize us to the max. Making use of the limited space available on a tiny campus is all we can do, and once it's completed that area is going to look great. The Schwartz Center was a big step forward, and the IPF puts us on par with most of college football.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Miami will never be able to outdo the bigger schools in terms of facilities, so as always, the sales pitch will highlite other benefits of the U. There’s also gotta be a point of diminishing returns here, so we don’t need to keep up with Bama. Instead we just need to keep improving facilities as possible. The university had done a good job here the last few years.

Not only don't we need to, we can't. OP can post all the articles and diagrams he wants, but none of that matters. If we spend as much as bama, they'll just spend more. At some point we're going to be outspent, so we best do the best we can with what we've got. And the fact remains that velvet lined lockers aren't the best use of our money.

We don't need too? Ridiculous! The only question...can we keep-up? High school kids are attracted to shiny objects and many have never seen the opulence that these programs are now bringing to college football. You can deny what's happening all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that college football is in the process of going to the next level. Get on board or get left at the station. Our glorious past is becoming dated and what is meaningful to the older generation of Canes does not have the same appeal to an 18 year old kid. Due to Mark Richt 5 star players will still join the Canes, but those will be one or two per recruiting cycle, not the 5, 6, 7 or more that the cutting edge programs now draw.

Look no further than Dabo Swinney's words and then what he has accomplished.

So, you identified a perceived problem.
I'm not winning a billion $ in the lottery and our current fans/alumni donors are not going to start quadrupling their donations anytime soon.
What is your solution?

As I commented in one of my earlier posts...the program needs to attract a donor along the lines of a Phil Knight or Boone Pickens. Phillip Frost "might" be a candidate or someone else in his stratosphere. Making this happen is far from being an impossibility!

 

[Sigma_Cane_7]

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said: But ***** wants to use that money to add crushed velvet lining to the lockers and full length mirrors with inlaid Swarovski crystals...that way we can land some bloodthirsty savages.

That thinking, if accepted, means other programs, who are smart and forward thinking, will gain an insurmountable advantage over the Canes. This is already in full swing as for example; the Gators are in the process of investing $100,000,000 (yes, one hundred million dollars) for construction of a new athletic compound and a standalone football facility.

Recently, a big topic of conversation has been Miami underclassman opting for the NFL draft (McIntosh and Norton). Some believe that due to the wealth these players see in the South Florida area it motivates them to leave early for the cash. Those people could be on to something. When you follow their reasoning to its logical conclusion those same type of players as recruits must also be enthralled when visiting the Clemson’s, Alabama’s, Oregon’s and a horde of other college football programs that have jaw dropping football facilities (video links below). Furthermore, not only have those facilities become a magnet for the best 5 star players in the country, but they may even play a role in retention of underclassman.

“A decade of rampant athletics construction across the country has redefined what it takes to field a competitive top-tier college sports program. Football stadiums and basketball arenas now must be complemented by practice facilities, professional-quality locker rooms, players' lounges with high-definition televisions and video game systems, and luxury suites to coax more money from boosters.”

“The University of Tennessee built a $45 million Training Center, a 145,000-square-foot home for its football team with a two-story weight room, hydrotherapy room, amphitheater-style team meeting room and a public entrance featuring a water wall and museum commemorating Volunteers football history.” I’ll save the naysayers the trouble of posting that those facilities have not paid off for Tennessee football…YET!!!

“Virginia and Rutgers, athletic departments both highly dependent on student fees, have new football headquarters on their wish lists. And at Maryland, the university is planning a $155 million project to convert Cole Field House, its former basketball arena, into an indoor football practice facility, new locker rooms and offices for football, a training center for all athletes and an "Academy of Innovation and Entrepreneurship" for students. University of South Florida has committed $45,000.000 towards football facilities”

“Clemson Athletic Director, Dan Radakovich, asked Dabo Swinney what he needed to take Clemson football to the next level. Swinney jotted down a few BIG ideas for a football headquarters. I really thought he would take that piece of paper and just laugh," Swinney said. "But he didn't. ... every dream starts with a dreamer."

To be clear; I deplore what big money has done to college football, and what it will do in the future, but if you are going to compete at the highest level then new state of the art athletic facilities will be the price of admission. And yes, I am fully aware of the challenges Miami faces in funding such ventures, but despite the wonderful new indoor practice facility the Canes are already significantly behind most all of the top football schools, which makes me worry for the future of the program.

Finally if you take a kid to a Four Season Hotel with extraordinary management and then take him to a Days Inn with comparable management, where will he elect to stay? Bring a 5 star player to a college with a state of the art athletic compound whose coaching staff is also 5 star, and then bring him to a college who isn’t in the same universe facility wise, but also has a 5 star coaching staff…where is he most likely to sign? By the way; it is those headwinds that make the job Mark Richt and his staff have done concerning the 2018 recruiting class nothing short of remarkable.

PHOTOS: Clemson's new $55 million football facility - Business Insider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lupS-rvh6Zw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMQ7eso_a8A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMvru1j4tp8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta_uTdXl-tE[/FONT]

Totally agree with your thought but if you saw this was in response to my comment that I think the real challenge is securing funds to keep coaches in future bidding wars.

Unless we become a public institution we are going to have what we have. The IPF is enough.

The rest of it is parlaying our landscape and city with keeping coaches from being poached.


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[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Horrible comparison to a Days Inn.

I agree with the premise that Miami has to maintain a reasonably high standard with its facilities and it is spending to do so.

OP is nothing more that an a contrarian attention ***** seeking to troll and trigger those foolish enough to buy into his tired shtick, he’s been at it a while. Give me a moment to destroy his vapid post and hopefully he’ll be smart enough to give up.

If you’re using a hotel comparison, a more apt comparison would be comparing the top programs like Alabama, to big opulent Ritz Carlson type hotels and Miami to smaller elegantly appointed boutique hotels with specialized staff attention and smaller crowds (smaller student size and class sizes) to deal with.

Our small luxury boutique hotel has something the other places don’t, and the students just have to step outside and take a few steps to experience it. Apparently, OP, valid, nor Broke have ever set foot on campus. So in addition to a luxury boutique hotel, in a tropical paradise with individualized attention, you have the benefits of living just minutes from a multicultural multi diverse gorgeous exciting tropical beach front city with any form of diversion possible.

If our coaches and recruiters can’t sell that vs a bubbling waterfall and bounce house, that will be looked at once and forgotten, in some shlthole redneck Jim Crow **** hole - we need new recruiters.

As long as we keep improving and keep maintaining as we are currently doing - we’re fine. We don’t need the over the top excesses of other programs .

OP, don’t bother responding, your attention-seeking troll argument has been thoroughly shredded, no need to say anything else.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

How is OP still allowed to post here?

 

[ThomasM]

Our IPF will legitimize us to the max. Making use of the limited space available on a tiny campus is all we can do, and once it's completed that area is going to look great. The Schwartz Center was a big step forward, and the IPF puts us on par with most of college football.

Yep, and we still have the best location, period. As long as our facilities are close, we come out ahead.

The stadium renovations sure didn't hurt, either.