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Poptimus said:
I stand by what I said before the season started that Jarren wasn't really given a chance because of the fact that Weldon and Perry could transfer if he took the starting job. It had nothing to do with Jarren's ability to lead this team. But I'll be damned if Richt stays stubborn and refuses to play him due to B.S. like worrying about others transferring or his own son's inability to recruit a QB.

Play Jarren. What's the worst thing that can happen? He balls out and then a couple problems transfer? I'll take that over entering next year with a guy who has never started.
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I have been saying this for months, too. Jarren got screwed the moment we realized we didn't have a QB coming in. Personally, I think the staff had a strong idea MJJ wasn't coming after his FIRST visit last April. Jarren was the sacrifice. And supposedly CMR already knew Perry wasn't going to LSU by then, unless I misunderstood something.
 
Cane Dynasty said:
Once he gave Perry the reigns he never should have taken them back.

It's all mental weakness with Corch Rich.
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That's where Richt lost me. Perry was starting his first road game and struggled to start the game. Instead, Richt panicked and went back to Malik. Said a lot.
 
I would play him in max games we could while keeping his redshirt. Start as many as he can. Wasted year already so I hate to lose his shirt now, and then let Rosier play the Mac team we will face in the bowl game.
 
filmcane said:
...it's the only sane thing to do at this point. ***** the redshirt! If he's any good, it's irrelevant!! Dorsey didn't start most of his frosh year.

Look at the facts as they sit in front of us tonight:
- Malik is the worst starting QB in Cane history to start more than 10 games
- N'Kosi keeps ******** up off the field and was an avalanche of garbage in his last outing.
- Cade couldn't even handle the snap when he got a chance last time he was in a game. I know people can make mistakes, but sorry - you had a chance and you tripped over your own feet, not to mention getting in trouble off the field.
- Jarren is the only QB who has the potential to actually lead this team long term.
- Do we really want to enter the Gator game at the start of next season with a relatively guaranteed loss to our long time rival? Because if you don't let Jarren lead the team now, he will not be ready for the Gator D.

I'm sure this is far too logical for Mark to grasp, but if he employed any logic and chess playing at all, I don't see how you don't start Jarren the rest of the way or at least significantly. Malik should never see another relevant snap as our Qb again.

What does all of this probably mean? Malik is a slam dunk to start for us next week.
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I don’t think we see Malik again.
 
filmcane said:
...it's the only sane thing to do at this point. ***** the redshirt! If he's any good, it's irrelevant!! Dorsey didn't start most of his frosh year.

Look at the facts as they sit in front of us tonight:
- Malik is the worst starting QB in Cane history to start more than 10 games
- N'Kosi keeps ******** up off the field and was an avalanche of garbage in his last outing.
- Cade couldn't even handle the snap when he got a chance last time he was in a game. I know people can make mistakes, but sorry - you had a chance and you tripped over your own feet, not to mention getting in trouble off the field.
- Jarren is the only QB who has the potential to actually lead this team long term.
- Do we really want to enter the Gator game at the start of next season with a relatively guaranteed loss to our long time rival? Because if you don't let Jarren lead the team now, he will not be ready for the Gator D.

I'm sure this is far too logical for Mark to grasp, but if he employed any logic and chess playing at all, I don't see how you don't start Jarren the rest of the way or at least significantly. Malik should never see another relevant snap as our Qb again.

What does all of this probably mean? Malik is a slam dunk to start for us next week.
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QB situation is roaring dumpster fire!! IF Jarren is not the man, we are screwed. We don’t even have a QB recruit in our class this year! If Jarren flames out we’ll be a 500 or below team for the next 3 or 4 years. How Richt got himself into this mess, I’ll never understand.
 
mianjomar said:
I don’t think we see Malik again.
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I really don’t care who they trot out there the rest of the season, I just don’t want to see Rosier anymore. I can’t stand watching him play. This season is a wash anyway, might as well get Jarren, NKosi or Cade as much experience as possible. If Richt trots out Rosier again, I’m turning off my TV and find something else to do, something I have never done before, even during games where Canes were getting blown out. I just can’t watch this train wreck on O anymore, it infuriates me.
 
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You guys that keep betting on Jarren to be this Superstar that covers up everything wrong with this offense are just as delusional as the people who believed Rosier would be better this year.

This Offense is terrible, even the best QB would have their skill set limited playing in it. Throwing Jarren out there now would set him up for failure, he hasn't had a single first team rep since he's been on campus & no amount of reps in practice now would make him any more ready than he was when the season started.

The way you get a young QB ready is to put him position to be able to handle the offense, by giving him the majority of the 1st team reps in Spring & in Fall camp, then you tailor your offense around his skill set & not ask him to do things he doesn't excel at. You make the transition easier for him until he's fully comfortable with it.

You guys want Jarren to be thrown out there having been 4th string all year running with walk-ons & yall think he's going to magically transform this team into a good team? You think starting Jarren we'll go on a run & go undefeated rest of the season & make it to the ACCCG and play a good game with Clemson?

Stop with the desperation & face the facts, stop blaming players & coming up with delusional scenarios to rationalize the failure. Hold the coaches accountable and come to the realization a True Freshman QB with less than 10 snaps in a real game isn't going to be a fix all that covers up the Coaches ineptitude. Playing Jarren this late in the season solves nothing.
 
Liberty City El said:
You guys that keep betting on Jarren to be this Superstar that covers up everything wrong with this offense are just as delusional as the people who believed Rosier would be better this year.

This Offense is terrible, even the best QB would have their skill set limited playing in it. Throwing Jarren out there now would set him up for failure, he hasn't had a single first team rep since he's been on campus & no amount of reps in practice now would make him any more ready than he was when the season started.

The way you get a young QB ready is to put him position to be able to handle the offense, by giving him the majority of the 1st team reps in Spring & in Fall camp, then you tailor your offense around his skill set & not ask him to do things he doesn't excel at. You make the transition easier for him until he's fully comfortable with it.

You guys want Jarren to be thrown out there having been 4th string all year running with walk-ons & yall think he's going to magically transform this team into a good team? You think starting Jarren we'll go on a run & go undefeated rest of the season & make it to the ACCCG and play a good game with Clemson?

Stop with the desperation & face the facts, stop blaming players & coming up with delusional scenarios to rationalize the failure. Hold the coaches accountable and come to the realization a True Freshman QB with less than 10 snaps in a real game isn't going to be a fix all that covers up the Coaches ineptitude. Playing Jarren this late in the season solves nothing.
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Agree 100% about throwing JW to the wolves. This would exacerbate the QB issue to the nth degree.
 
Liberty City El said:
You guys that keep betting on Jarren to be this Superstar that covers up everything wrong with this offense are just as delusional as the people who believed Rosier would be better this year.

This Offense is terrible, even the best QB would have their skill set limited playing in it. Throwing Jarren out there now would set him up for failure, he hasn't had a single first team rep since he's been on campus & no amount of reps in practice now would make him any more ready than he was when the season started.

The way you get a young QB ready is to put him position to be able to handle the offense, by giving him the majority of the 1st team reps in Spring & in Fall camp, then you tailor your offense around his skill set & not ask him to do things he doesn't excel at. You make the transition easier for him until he's fully comfortable with it.

You guys want Jarren to be thrown out there having been 4th string all year running with walk-ons & yall think he's going to magically transform this team into a good team? You think starting Jarren we'll go on a run & go undefeated rest of the season & make it to the ACCCG and play a good game with Clemson?

Stop with the desperation & face the facts, stop blaming players & coming up with delusional scenarios to rationalize the failure. Hold the coaches accountable and come to the realization a True Freshman QB with less than 10 snaps in a real game isn't going to be a fix all that covers up the Coaches ineptitude. Playing Jarren this late in the season solves nothing.
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Your right, no one is coming in on a white horse and saving this season or this offense. I would like Jarren getting some live action just to get him experience going into next year. Not start but a few series a game, if he can handle it, but maybe he can’t. What a mess this offense is, we have no hope until we get a qualified OC.
 
Liberty City El said:
You guys that keep betting on Jarren to be this Superstar that covers up everything wrong with this offense are just as delusional as the people who believed Rosier would be better this year.

This Offense is terrible, even the best QB would have their skill set limited playing in it. Throwing Jarren out there now would set him up for failure, he hasn't had a single first team rep since he's been on campus & no amount of reps in practice now would make him any more ready than he was when the season started.

The way you get a young QB ready is to put him position to be able to handle the offense, by giving him the majority of the 1st team reps in Spring & in Fall camp, then you tailor your offense around his skill set & not ask him to do things he doesn't excel at. You make the transition easier for him until he's fully comfortable with it.

You guys want Jarren to be thrown out there having been 4th string all year running with walk-ons & yall think he's going to magically transform this team into a good team? You think starting Jarren we'll go on a run & go undefeated rest of the season & make it to the ACCCG and play a good game with Clemson?

Stop with the desperation & face the facts, stop blaming players & coming up with delusional scenarios to rationalize the failure. Hold the coaches accountable and come to the realization a True Freshman QB with less than 10 snaps in a real game isn't going to be a fix all that covers up the Coaches ineptitude. Playing Jarren this late in the season solves nothing.
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Speaking for myself, I don't expect any of that at all. I just want the kid to hit the field and get some real game experience. If nothing else, get him in the 4 games he can now play without jeopardizing the redshirt. And I don't mean 10 snaps a game. Give him some packages he can really execute. UF did it yesterday against UGA with Emory. There's no reason JW can't do the same thing. Spring, summer and Fall practice is NOT the same as real time game.
Let's see how he reacts when a play breaks down. That's my feeling on this. I don't think anyone looks at him as a savior of the season. But let's not make the same mistake twice.
 
Liberty City El said:
You guys that keep betting on Jarren to be this Superstar that covers up everything wrong with this offense are just as delusional as the people who believed Rosier would be better this year.

This Offense is terrible, even the best QB would have their skill set limited playing in it. Throwing Jarren out there now would set him up for failure, he hasn't had a single first team rep since he's been on campus & no amount of reps in practice now would make him any more ready than he was when the season started.

The way you get a young QB ready is to put him position to be able to handle the offense, by giving him the majority of the 1st team reps in Spring & in Fall camp, then you tailor your offense around his skill set & not ask him to do things he doesn't excel at. You make the transition easier for him until he's fully comfortable with it.

You guys want Jarren to be thrown out there having been 4th string all year running with walk-ons & yall think he's going to magically transform this team into a good team? You think starting Jarren we'll go on a run & go undefeated rest of the season & make it to the ACCCG and play a good game with Clemson?

Stop with the desperation & face the facts, stop blaming players & coming up with delusional scenarios to rationalize the failure. Hold the coaches accountable and come to the realization a True Freshman QB with less than 10 snaps in a real game isn't going to be a fix all that covers up the Coaches ineptitude. Playing Jarren this late in the season solves nothing.
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yup first step in Richts recovery is the realization that he does not know how to implement, align or call the spread system hes trying to run
 
I laugh at all you guys writing off Perry. There's a lack of performance and development across the team. And yes, I saw his video. It was stupid, but he made enough throws to show you he's got a much higher ceiling then the guy we ran back to. It's his coaches job to put him in the situations where he makes more of those and less of the others.

I don't care which one of the quarterbacks he plays, Perry or Williams, but every pass Rosier throws is a tax on the future.

We aren't winning crap this year, so now is time for depth and development.

I don't put a penny of stock in any of the reports about any of these kids, because there are talented players who are performing like **** across this team why should quarterback be any different?

In spite of all the reports of his ineptitude and unwillingness to work, at some point they thought enough of Perry to start him, so there's that.
Likewise, they thought enough about Williams to sign him.

I don't care if you let each of them play a half of football the rest of the way, but **** it, kids are not getting better on Greentree so let him get on the field and put some **** on film you can build on.
 
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Franks getting a lot of playing time and experience. Rosier gone, nkosi trying to floss on social media and Jarren riding pine. Jw needs to play. Nkosi could get kicked out suspended or injured and we throw a dude in at opening day high pressure prime time with no game experience. Its a huge fugging mistake. But then again we couldn’t plan for more than 14 points against a red bandanna
 
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