MEGA Mega Merged Stadium Thread.

[Hold My Beer]

Again, closer to campus should have been how I explained it.

The point is, we need to get out of Hard Rock. It’s a really nice venue, and it’s cool when we sell it out once every 4 years for a big game, but otherwise, I don’t understand the draw. A new stadium could….

1) Help with recruiting.

2) Potentially lure more students to the game.

3) Be a smaller facility — with a state-of-the-art design — that we could sell out a handful of times each year.

4) Provide monetary benefit.

Everyone who pushes back so intensely is part of the problem. “Ya, that will never happen….wah wah wah.”

If people always gave up when things were supposedly “impossible,” humanity wouldn’t exist as we know if it today.

How big a deal are these things in the grand scheme of things?

It seems like there's a lot more upside in funneling that money into NIL/recruiting and retaining assistant coaches who could get hired away

JMO

 

[rok]

How big a deal are these things in the grand scheme of things?

It seems like there's a lot more upside in funneling that money into NIL/recruiting and retaining assistant coaches who could get hired away

JMO

While I do believe that having our own place is of major importance, those are things worth considering as well for sure.

 

[rok]

Again, closer to campus should have been how I explained it.

The point is, we need to get out of Hard Rock. It’s a really nice venue, and it’s cool when we sell it out once every 4 years for a big game, but otherwise, I don’t understand the draw. A new stadium could….

1) Help with recruiting.

2) Potentially lure more students to the game.

3) Be a smaller facility — with a state-of-the-art design — that we could sell out a handful of times each year.

4) Provide monetary benefit.

Everyone who pushes back so intensely is part of the problem. “Ya, that will never happen….wah wah wah.”

If people always gave up when things were supposedly “impossible,” humanity wouldn’t exist as we know if it today.

 

[Canedude08]

fans are going to walk for 1 hour?

you are beyond delusional. students take a car to walk across US1 to go CVS or Starbucks.

It's tough enough to get kids to walk to the Watsco center, imagine walking miles to Tropical Park in September/October for a noon kick.

 

[Genghis Cane]

How big a deal are these things in the grand scheme of things?

It seems like there's a lot more upside in funneling that money into NIL/recruiting and retaining assistant coaches who could get hired away

JMO

Why can’t we do both?

If someone like Ruiz wants to spearhead a movement to build a stadium, why would we fight that?

 

[Hold My Beer]

Why can’t we do both?

If someone like Ruiz wants to spearhead a movement to build a stadium, why would we fight that?

That's fair if in fact both things can be carried out.

There is lot to be said for having a near-campus stadium to call our own.

Again, though, just wonder if it's the game-changer some suggest.

 

[rok]

It's tough enough to get kids to walk to the Watsco center, imagine walking miles to Tropical Park in September/October for a noon kick.

Miami basketball doesn't have 1/100th the cachet of the football program. And you don't tailgate or get nuts before a basketball game the way you would on a Saturday when there's no school. There would absolutely be plenty of folks who would choose to walk home from the stadium to avoid a traffic nightmare. It's a couple of miles. Have you ever been hiking?

 

[JD08]

Miami basketball doesn't have 1/100th the cachet of the football program. And you don't tailgate or get nuts before a basketball game the way you would on a Saturday when there's no school. There would absolutely be plenty of folks who would choose to walk home from the stadium to avoid a traffic nightmare. It's a couple of miles. Have you ever been hiking?

It's all fun and games until you walk outside to find someone relieving themselves in front of your car or yakking up their guts in your bushes.

 

[ssvir]

I've got the solution ... since were spending Ruiz's money let him just buy Riviera CC and all the surrounding homes and then we get to build an on campus stadium and it won't cost a penny over $2.5B to make it happen.

 

[Canedude08]

Miami basketball doesn't have 1/100th the cachet of the football program. And you don't tailgate or get nuts before a basketball game the way you would on a Saturday when there's no school. There would absolutely be plenty of folks who would choose to walk home from the stadium to avoid a traffic nightmare. It's a couple of miles. Have you ever been hiking?

It was a couple of miles from the old Metro station to the OB, and people hated making that walk. Either you are being willfully obtuse, or are just trying to get a rise out of people. These students aren't walking 2 miles down streets without sidewalks, they barely want to walk to the nearest Publix. They barely walk to the TGIs across the **** street.

 

[Guadalajara]

There are folks in Miami and Palm Beach county that put time and money into making sure the OB was torn down and that UM continues it's contract at the dump.

If you saw the list of names you'd understand what's going on.

 

[TheProf]

It was a couple of miles from the old Metro station to the OB, and people hated making that walk. Either you are being willfully obtuse, or are trolling. These students aren't walking 2 miles down streets without sidewalks, they barely want to walk to the nearest Publix. They barely walk to the TGIs across the **** street.

Please respect rok and do not accuse him of trolling.

 

[rok]

It was a couple of miles from the old Metro station to the OB, and people hated making that walk. Either you are being willfully obtuse, or are trolling. These students aren't walking 2 miles down streets without sidewalks, they barely want to walk to the nearest Publix. They barely walk to the TGIs across the **** street.

Miller has sidewalks for most, if not all the stretch from campus to TP. Ok, so they wouldn't ALL walk but that doesn't change the fact that it's walking distance. These big state schools have campuses that never end and there's plenty of walking around on game day. But I'm not here to get hung up to the student issue like some of you. We need out of HRS. Was Inter Miami satisfied playing in a brand new stadium away from the heart of the city? Of course not. UM doesn't belong at the Dolphins' HQ. The Dolphins finally moved out of Davie and came back to Dade County. We need to go home.

 

[305_separatist]

What a dumb thread lol.

More students will go to games if you reduce the distance to do so by like x10. There is literally no question about that. But that also is besides the point.

 

[Canedude08]

What a dumb thread lol.

More students will go to games if you reduce the distance to do so by like x10. There is literally no question about that. But that also is besides the point.

They don't go to basketball games now, even when the product is **** good, and it's ON CAMPUS. You don't have to sit outside, most games are at night and for the most part, it isn't an all day thing so you aren't wiped out afterwards. Also keep in mind even if EVERY SINGLE UNDERGRAD SHOWED up, it's a miniscule number. Amazing how those students don't have a problem with distance when FSU comes to town or there's a big name on the schedule. Guess what? Even if the stadium was right next door, those kids arent lining up to watch us play mediocre trash, and that's been true for **** near 50 years.

 

[Canedude08]

Please respect rok and do not accuse him of trolling.

When someone is being willfully obtuse, despite being presented with decades of evidence to the contrary and live case studies of same, it's tough to think they aren't just ******** around just to get a rise out of people.

 

[Atom Atlas]

Classic CIS, one thread calling to burn the whole program down because we suck and will never recover and Mario is the worst coach ever to lace them up, and another thread asking for our own stadium.

Maybe we can build the stadium as a place to burn it all down??....... No???... Yea???..... Football on Saturdays, Ritual sacrifices on Sundays.... Flea markets during the week.... It's all about Vision... Think Big... LOL!!!

 

[305_separatist]

They don't go to basketball games now, even when the product is **** good, and it's ON CAMPUS. You don't have to sit outside, most games are at night and for the most part, it isn't an all day thing so you aren't wiped out afterwards. Also keep in mind even if EVERY SINGLE UNDERGRAD SHOWED up, it's a miniscule number. Amazing how those students don't have a problem with distance when FSU comes to town or there's a big name on the schedule. Guess what? Even if the stadium was right next door, those kids arent lining up to watch us play mediocre trash, and that's been true for **** near 50 years.

Wrong and like I already said missing the point. If distance doesn’t matter then you think the stadium could be built in west palm beach and the student attendance would remain the same? Lol

Comparing basketball and football here is like comparing apples and orangutans. Bet if the basketball stadium was the same distance as hard rock, no one would ever show up lmao.

Closer is better. Own stadium is better. These are simple facts and us sucking or not sucking is a completely different topic.

 

[Tru C]

The Canes will NOT play at or on the site of HRS forever.

 

[Canedude08]

Wrong and like I already said missing the point. If distance doesn’t matter then you think the stadium could be built in west palm beach and the student attendance would remain the same? Lol

Comparing basketball and football here is like comparing apples and orangutans. Bet if the basketball stadium was the same distance as hard rock, no one would ever show up lmao.

Closer is better. Own stadium is better. These are simple facts and us sucking or not sucking is a completely different topic.

It's almost like you refuse to admit the obvious.

1)The basketball comparison is apt for one simple reason: IT TAKES FEWER STUDENTS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN BASKETBALL ATTENDANCE COMPARED TO FOOTBALL. The student section at the Watsco Center is 1500 kids, MAX, and it's a struggle to get 500 kids there regularly. That means that even with a good product, we can't get 1/10th of the undergrad student body to show up to an on campus facility. That's ON CAMPUS. Imagine trying to get 5-7 times that, to consistently show up to a facility miles away, where there are other obstacles in the way. I know you are going to come back with "But it's football", keep in mind that a significant chunk of our student body, the ones that aren't from countries where football is played with a perfectly round ball are from the eastern seaboard, which is a huge basketball market.

You keep screaming "Closer is better" but the question is FOR WHOM? The majority of our donor pool lives in Broward, same with our local alumni base. Those are the fans that we can consistently count on, the local, non affiliated fans have shown for decades that they won't provide much support. We don't have a student body that cares enough on a consistent basis to justify spending hundreds of millions if not billions to be marginally closer to campus. The deal works great for Ruiz, and maybe the University(if Ruiz gifts the facility to the school, or we are able to buy in). That said, odds are we are just trading landlords.