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Rellyrell said:
Thank u; why is this so hard to comprehend? Although I would argue Diaz is a good coordinator w/ his predecessors’ players.

Regardless, some guys in the industry are not meant to be #1’s, but they are good #2’s. Look at McDaniels for the Raiders; dude is dripping w/ accomplishments as an OC, but absolutely sucks as a HC. Norv Turner is another guy who comes to mind. There’s a slew of guys who r great DC/OC, fail as a HC & go right back to being a great DC/OC. Then some team will take another flyer on them, justifying that maybe they failed b/c of the previous team, & they find out the hard way, again.

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Rellyrell said:
Thank u; why is this so hard to comprehend? Although I would argue Diaz is a good coordinator w/ his predecessors’ players.

Regardless, some guys in the industry are not meant to be #1’s, but they are good #2’s. Look at McDaniels for the Raiders; dude is dripping w/ accomplishments as an OC, but absolutely sucks as a HC. Norv Turner is another guy who comes to mind. There’s a slew of guys who r great DC/OC, fail as a HC & go right back to being a great DC/OC. Then some team will take another flyer on them, justifying that maybe they failed b/c of the previous team, & they find out the hard way, again.

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Wade Phillips is another.... Great DC but horrible HC....
 
jwcane97 said:
I am not sure he would still be here, but if he ran his defense and wasn't so attached to No- D, he would have lasted much longer. We can argue about fat Al, but he was a decent recruiter and players seemed to like him.

His problem was fattening kids up to play the wrong position (Chickillo comes to mind).
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It goes full circle, golden would of completely turned the program around imo but ol mario screwed us for bama
 
KANE said:
Golden is the best HC of the 3. His major issue was trying to keep his homie employed! That’s admirable…. but in coaching tho, that’s not the model for personal long term employment. We ALL should have a homie like Al. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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I think our budget back then was a far bigger issue than people know. We were super cheap. I'd imagine if they told Golden he had 8 mil to build a staff, he'd have done just a little better at putting one together.
 
Rellyrell said:
Thank u; why is this so hard to comprehend? Although I would argue Diaz is a good coordinator w/ his predecessors’ players.

Regardless, some guys in the industry are not meant to be #1’s, but they are good #2’s. Look at McDaniels for the Raiders; dude is dripping w/ accomplishments as an OC, but absolutely sucks as a HC. Norv Turner is another guy who comes to mind. There’s a slew of guys who r great DC/OC, fail as a HC & go right back to being a great DC/OC. Then some team will take another flyer on them, justifying that maybe they failed b/c of the previous team, & they find out the hard way, again.

Nothing to see here.
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I would argue Diaz is not a good coordinator….period.
 
Rellyrell said:
Thank u; why is this so hard to comprehend? Although I would argue Diaz is a good coordinator w/ his predecessors’ players.

Regardless, some guys in the industry are not meant to be #1’s, but they are good #2’s. Look at McDaniels for the Raiders; dude is dripping w/ accomplishments as an OC, but absolutely sucks as a HC. Norv Turner is another guy who comes to mind. There’s a slew of guys who r great DC/OC, fail as a HC & go right back to being a great DC/OC. Then some team will take another flyer on them, justifying that maybe they failed b/c of the previous team, & they find out the hard way, again.

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All of mcdaniels oc accomplishments have come with Tom Brady as his qb…not really a shock that his offenses were good
 
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ThomasM said:
I think our budget back then was a far bigger issue than people know. We were super cheap. I'd imagine if they told Golden he had 8 mil to build a staff, he'd have done just a little better at putting one together.
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Probably correct. It’s definitely something that I hadn’t considered, and something to think about. But that being said, I’m sure he could’ve found someone better for what he was paying No’D. It ain’t like he was paying him $50,000.
 
WaterburyCane said:
You’re a dyck sometimes but you come up with some funny a$$ stuff too lol.
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KANE said:
Probably correct. It’s definitely something that I hadn’t considered, and something to think about. But that being said, I’m sure he could’ve found someone better for what he was paying No’D. It ain’t like he was paying him $50,000.
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Actually, I thought I had read recently that his contract was very low. But I do agree, just about any DC would've been better, even some high school coaches. Doughnuts was just that bad.
 
ThomasM said:
Actually, I thought I had read recently that his contract was very low. But I do agree, just about any DC would've been better, even some high school coaches. Doughnuts was just that bad.
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I may have this wrong, but I think they paid No'D a decent amount because Temple wanted him to stay as HC. He was in the $500K range, which was probably the most we had ever paid a coordinator. Alfredo was making about $2.5K @ UM. Mario is making triple that
 
Rellyrell said:
So far; but I’ll give him a break. Riley left that def in shambles. Matter of fact, SC fans r a bit nervous that Riley is focusing so much on “fun offense” while neglecting the trenches.
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Interesting.. just looked at their commit list and they only have a single top 300 guy on the line... And EDGE #99 ranked player.... As well as they're recruiting, they're definitely not getting an elite trench haul...
 
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Yoyo82 said:
Interesting.. just looked at their commit list and they only have a single top 300 guy on the line... And EDGE #99 ranked player.... As well as they're recruiting, they're definitely not getting an elite trench haul...
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Yeah man; he’s recruiting to out finesse teams, but that trench? Ooof.
 
I'm tired of Golden talk. He's not a bad coach.

All he needed was to get a DC blah blah blah. We know. He recruited well and hired well on the offensive side of the ball.
 
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