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Off-Topic Space, the final frontier, these are the voyages of NASA

and imagine if some ****ehead named Sergio Gor didn’t try to be petty and take out Musks pick for NASA, I’d actually bet Musk wouldn’t even be going in like he is. People act like he’s way more complicated than he is. Dudes main goal in life is like entirely becoming multi-planetary. And he donated $200M+ and when he leaves you shoot like the one pick he actually made for something he cares about (NASA) in the back as he’s leaving.

It’s akin to Biden holding the EV summit and not inviting Tesla and praising GM as being the reason EVs were breaking through in a quarter Tesla sold like >1/4M vehicles and GM sold like <5000. (Don’t remember exact numbers). That flipped a switch for him same as sacking Isaacman the day after Musk leaves is imo
 
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Calinative said:
and imagine if some ****ehead named Sergio Gor didn’t try to be petty and take out Musks pick for NASA, I’d actually bet Musk wouldn’t even be going in like he is. People act like he’s way more complicated than he is. Dudes main goal in life is like entirely becoming multi-planetary. And he donated $200M+ and when he leaves you shoot like the one pick he actually made for something he cares about (NASA) in the back as he’s leaving.

It’s akin to Biden holding the EV summit and not inviting Tesla and praising GM as being the reason EVs were breaking through in a quarter Tesla sold like >1/4M vehicles and GM sold like <5000. (Don’t remember exact numbers). That flipped a switch for him same as sacking Isaacman the day after Musk leaves is imo
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...Like I said... literally all rests on the head of Sergio Gor. This ****...
 
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Peter Thiel: Elon Musk has given up on Mars

Elon Musk has abandoned his vision of colonising Mars, according to Peter Thiel. In a new interview with Ross Douthat for the New York Times, Thiel has claimed that the Tesla and SpaceX CEO no longer believes a Martian colony is a viable political project for humans to build a new society...
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ddann said:
in.mashable.com

'Stupidest Thing': Scientist Shreds Elon Musk's Mars Dream, Says Even Apocalyptic Earth Is Better

Musk wants to settle a million people on Mars.
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Here’s a little dose of reality.
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This is one of the stupidest articles you could care about and is just some random guy likely trying to get some PR to help him sell a book.
1st he doesn't even seem to know that Musk and Bezos have EXTREMELY different space ambitions. Bezos doesn't even care much about Mars, that is really only Musk. Secondly Musk only talks about the "just in case" scenario as a selling point. What was the point of going to the Moon? What will Humans do when we have AI and Robots and nobody has a job? What will be strive for?

Either you believe Humans will become multiplanetary and eventually travel the cosmos and explore/discover as much as we can about the universe and our place in it or you think we never will and shouldn't even try. Which future would you prefer to come true? Well Step 1 is Mars. Period. And Musk wants to be the guy that got Humanity towards that first step (or whatever number step you want to call it).

Nobody thinks it'll be ******* easy lol. It's basically impossible. And there is zero shot he could actually accomplish it without Government help. Because there is no monetary value towards going to Mars. You don't do it to profit. At least not in your lifetime you don't. Funnily enough it's actually Bezos whos entire "grand plan" is to profit off space as opposed to Musk (given that Bezos' main plan is to have colonies IN Space and get industry in space for mining+manufacturing).... Yet obviously Musk understands that in order to do what he wants he needs to get the profit along the way. And in all these incremental steps Musk has taken to fullfill that dream of colonizing Mars he has revolutionized the Space industry, created a completely dominant launcher AND Internet provider, is the US's only transit to/from orbit, and is building the largest rocket ever that is capable of landing and full reuse and will be 10x cheaper than any other rocket in history.... So yeah when people like these authors try to criticize these dreams, I find it braindead. These dreams are the literal reason the US dominates Space today.
 
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Calinative said:
This is one of the stupidest articles you could care about and is just some random guy likely trying to get some PR to help him sell a book.
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So, do you disagree with their point that even a post-nuclear war ravaged earth would still be an infinitely more habitable place to live than Mars could ever be?
 
ddann said:
So, do you disagree with their point that even a post-nuclear war ravaged earth would still be an infinitely more habitable place to live than Mars could ever be?
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Ever be? Who knows. Certainly any point in the next 50-100 years...
 
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Ight attempt #3 for this launch. Weather seems clear for now. So T-5mins about

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Successful launch so far. Booster lost 1 engine looks like. It wasn't planning on attempting a landing at the catch tower today. Is going to simulate a landing with engine-out though. So we will see. Think that was possibly the engine they were planning on landing without anyways (a central 3 engine which are critical for their landing catch burn thrust vector control).... But ship has all engines lit still. Now they need to do a successful payload test deploy and engine relight in space (to simulate deorbit burn)....
 
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