South Florida prospects talk Miami Hurricanes

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South Florida prospects talk Miami Hurricanes
By Gerry Hamilton


COCOA BEACH, Fla. -- When the top prospects get together at an even such as the Pylon 7-on-7, there are always a number of interesting topics on the recruiting front to be discussed. In particular, last weekend’s 7-on-7 featured many of the top skill prospects in Broward, Dade and Palm Beach counties and that meant the Miami Hurricanes were a topic of discussion.

When talking about Miami in it’s current state, the main question is when or if The U will be back among the nation's elite.

After a 9-4 season in 2013, the Hurricanes took a step back in 2014, finishing 6-7, albeit with a talented freshman quarterback in Brad Kaaya who certainly provides Miami fans hope for 2015 and beyond. That means the 2015 season is a make-or-break one for Al Golden and staff with the rival Florida State Seminoles winning and recruiting at a very high level and the Florida Gators sure to get the recruiting bounce in 2016 after a coaching change and the ability to sell a vision for the future to top prospects in the Sunshine State.

While the Hurricanes finished with the No. 23 class in 2014, Miami is expected to finish in the top 10 annually since it sits in the most talented area in the country. The Class of 2016 is off to a great start with eight ESPN Junior 300 verbals and has the early look of a potential top-5 class, it will be the 2015 season that tells the story on how the class will finish.

On Saturday, RecruitingNation asked a number of top prospects from the area what the Hurricanes have to do get “back,” and improve the chances of landing some of the top prospects in the area. Answers varied as expected.

Trayvon Mullen, CB
ESPN junior ranking: No. 14
Mullen is the top-ranked prospect in the area in 2016, and his voice is one to be heard. The uber-talented cornerback is taking a patient approach to the process, and provides a hint as to what he is looking for from Miami.

“They are in it with me, a hometown team and a good school. They just have to keep coming hard. Just have everything together, have everything right when kids come visit. That’s about it.”

Dionte Mullins, WR
ESPN Junior 300 ranking: No. 55
The Miami commitment didn’t mince words when asked what the Hurricanes have to do to get back in people's eyes.

“Just got to play Miami football. Recruit the right guys. Recruit the guys that are hungry. Recruit kids from Miami that are dedicated to playing for Miami and bringing it back.”

Devin Bush Jr., ILB
ESPN Junior 300 ranking: No. 207

What does Miami have to do to get back?

“Show me this year what you can do when so much pressure is on. All the talk about firing your coach, how do you bounce back and make things positive from a negative.”

What hurts Miami the most with area prospects?

“Unstable coaching staff, rumors about Coach Golden getting fired, coaches leaving, players not wanting to go there and it’s not interesting like it used to be.”

Binjimen Victor, WR
ESPN Junior ranking: No. 274
Victor said it’s all about the love, and seeing how the offense is going to look this season.

“They’ve got to come hard. There are a lot of schools coming after me, and I want to experience everything. I want to see how they run their offense this year.”

For Victor, it’s not about wins as much as the feeling of development.

“It’s not about the wins, but developing me as a man and player.”


Joshua Hammond , WR
ESPN 300 ranking: N/R
Hammond has quickly become one of the top prospects in the area at Hallandale. The 2016 Under Armour All-America Game selection was offered by the hometown Hurricanes Jan. 25, well after the likes of LSU, Ohio State, Tennessee and a number of others. While Hammond is just now seeing his stock go through the roof, he offers a different take than others who have been heavily recruited for over a year.

“If they had a different approach to recruiting kids it would help. They didn’t start recruiting me until later. They have to start recruiting kids early on because if they were my first offer I would probably be committed right now. They came in so late, it’s like they don’t really want me there or don’t know what they want.”

The overall impression received on Saturday was that each and every prospect from the area knows the Hurricanes have the makings of a terrific 2016 class with the 2015 season looming large. Kids hear the rumors and chatter, but at the same time they have respect for the level of players committed in 2016. Miami is in a very similar situation to Florida headed in the 2014 season. If the Hurricanes have an ascending season on the field and answer questions about the future, they'll regain momentum and likely sign a top-5 class.
 
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“If they had a different approach to recruiting kids it would help. They didn’t start recruiting me until later. They have to start recruiting kids early on because if they were my first offer I would probably be committed right now. They came in so late, it’s like they don’t really want me there or don’t know what they want.”


This type of thought process is ridiculous.
 
Agree. Very mature comment by Bush. Because the pressure is on. These players will basically be playing for the livelihood of their coaching staff this year.
 
The comment by Hammond bothers me and is why I think the ncaa should limit contact and offers between schools and players until the summer between their junior and senior years.
1- it allows kids to be kids without all the outside crap and concentrate on school if they need to get grades up
2- allows coaches to properly evaluate. Hammond is upset not having an offer, but is it realistic for staffs to go from recruiting 75+ players for 2015 to also recruit 50+ for 2016 and keep in touch with 10+ elite kids for 2017? All while watching game tapes, traveling, making calls, tweeting, sending letters, etc?
3- might help curb some of this AAU handler type bs.
 
“If they had a different approach to recruiting kids it would help. They didn’t start recruiting me until later. They have to start recruiting kids early on because if they were my first offer I would probably be committed right now. They came in so late, it’s like they don’t really want me there or don’t know what they want.”


This type of thought process is ridiculous.

This, I've said this. This is what recruiting has come to but yet I got blasted by a poster here for saying that.

Right from a horses mouth.
 
I actually feel what Hammond is saying and I find his perspective very practical. He is a local kid and Miami should recognize its local talent before anyone else. These ballers don't just develop their Jr years. They are known from youth days. If Hammond was recognized as a baller from his youth days then he should have been recognized with an early offer. Now, I know that doesn't always help us as we have seen with Sony and others who were offered earlier and still bailed. If this perspective is out there then it has to be addressed. Great organzations take in and analyze perspectives from its stakeholders in order to learn how to best meet its interests. Addressing this perspective and others from local kids, as opposed to dismissing it is the key to overcoming the problem if it truly exists.
 
“If they had a different approach to recruiting kids it would help. They didn’t start recruiting me until later. They have to start recruiting kids early on because if they were my first offer I would probably be committed right now. They came in so late, it’s like they don’t really want me there or don’t know what they want.”


This type of thought process is ridiculous.

This, I've said this. This is what recruiting has come to but yet I got blasted by a poster here for saying that.

Right from a horses mouth.

Is offering a year before they sign too late now?.... Smh
 
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“If they had a different approach to recruiting kids it would help. They didn’t start recruiting me until later. They have to start recruiting kids early on because if they were my first offer I would probably be committed right now. They came in so late, it’s like they don’t really want me there or don’t know what they want.”


This type of thought process is ridiculous.

This, I've said this. This is what recruiting has come to but yet I got blasted by a poster here for saying that.

Right from a horses mouth.

Is offering a year before they sign too late now?.... Smh

It's not too late but some kids who do think like that.

Long way until NSD but some take it in the wrong way and get upset.

Recruiting has changed so much now. Kids in the 8th and 9th grade already getting offers.
 
It could be too late to local kids who believe their local school, which is starving for top talent, should recognize their talent sooner than OOS teams who are not.
 
I feel two things, 1 recruiting is starting so early, there are going to be some misses because of loopholes, cracks, and more evaluation needed. We only know Hammond based on film we see on the net or maybe see him live. But 99% of us don't know if he's a punk, trouble maker, crappy student. So who knows why he didn't get the an "early" offer. Maybe he has told people he doesn't like Miami, he's a FSU guy. We don't have all the facts as fans on the net. Sure he may be committed if the U was his first offer. But that won't stop him from looking or other schools from recruiting.
2. We need an early signing period! That is vital for Miami and all schools. Make a commitment count for once. I hope half of our 2016 class sticks at this point. If half does it's still a good class. But without the early signing period a commitment now is like a kiss on the cheek. Nice to have but doesn't mean ****.
 
Great points. We don't know all the facts. Only the coaches and a few onsiders do. The point I am making is that we need identify if this is a true problem or just a one off. When we have these kids at camps and jr days, these are questions we should ask. Also speaking with parents, guardians coaches would help gain perspective. At the end of the day, it never hurts to get a jump on a kid.
 
“If they had a different approach to recruiting kids it would help. They didn’t start recruiting me until later. They have to start recruiting kids early on because if they were my first offer I would probably be committed right now. They came in so late, it’s like they don’t really want me there or don’t know what they want.”


This type of thought process is ridiculous.

Sounds like a kid that expects things handed to him...
 
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WTF are some of you guys talking about? SMH

What Hammond said is spot-on and it's a concern I've had with this staff for years. They don't recognize legit talent in their own backyard!!! How the **** does LSU and Ohio State offer a kid from Hallandale before Miami does?! If Miami's staff was doing their due diligence they would've been on top of that kid before anybody else.

We're *** backwards at Miami. It should go like this...

1. Miami discovers local stud and offers
2. Other schools from out of town take notice and offer afterwards

It's the other way around with us. Out of town schools discover kids in our own backyard and then we come to the party late. That's pathetic. Show me somewhere else in the country where that happens.

Hammond isn't saying anything wrong. What he's implying is that Miami doesn't show any love until other teams start offering, when it should be the other way around. LOL @ Hammond having offers from the National Champions before he has an offer from the school 29 minutes down the street.
 
Winning would go a long way to getting the right recruits. noles always had higher ranked classes than us, but our recruits always use to beat their recruits on the field. We need a coach who can do that. Do any of you really think Saban kisses this kids rears? I bet his line is, "I want you son, but don't NEED you. Without or without you, I will be playing for the NC the next 4 years." Like we use to tell them, "You can come to Miami, or go someplace else and bet your rear beat by the kid that does!" We have to be that type of school or we will be nothing. We need a coach who can move us in that direction. Al has proven he is not that coach.
 
Let me ask this question, and I really don't know the answer: Is Hammond even a take right now? Couldn't that be why we are slow playing him???

Now what Mullins said, was less critical of the staff, but spot ******* on!
 
It's funny becuase i graduated from Hallandale still go to thier games I never see Miami coaches at the games but I've seen Mucschamp, T-Rob, Auburn coach before Malzahn, Guys from Fisher's staff recruiting guys from Hallandale and other schools in the area. That has to change now! Losing too many local studs to schools out of state
 
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