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Watching the Texas v Ohio game last night and hearing Fowler say, its great that Texas and Ohio schedule these big matchups. I got internally mad, as if they had no hand to play in it. Like they didnt help usher 80-90% of the big brands into 2 conferences.

The big games are now conference matchups. Those mega conference teams now have no incentive to play any OOC big games. ACC teams and Big 12 plus ND are the only ones who will see it as a benefit. You gonna hear Ryan Day crying like Sarkisan was last season.

Also the simple solution is for those 2 mega conferences to schedule big conference games in week 1 and week 2.

Put UGA v OU , Or Texas v UF, Ohio v USC and Michigan v Oregon.

Put those big games with not alot of history at the beginning of the season.
 
90scane said:
The days of out of conference ranked vs ranked are numbered. No point in them with a playoff at the end with 16-24 teams. Even 12 teams will have p2 teams avoiding tough out of conference games. Remember, we played Famu because usce backed out.
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Forgot about USCe for a moment.

From their pov, there’s no need for a second OOC game against a p4 because it’s mandatory that they play Clemson every year. With 8 conference games they took a chance scheduling us, but not worth it to them after moving up to 9.

The b1g will be joining the other 3 conferences plus ND in having 10 p4 games on their schedule next year. Still, too early to gauge if an expansion will make more, besides teams like Colorado, Louisville, Boston college, and so forth (acc teams have the most OOC p4 games scheduled), programs be unafraid having 11 p4 games.
 
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I’m restless to know how we fill our empty schedule slot in the upcoming years. Ideally, another p4 matchup would be preferred.


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OU AD says CFP expansion could pave way for more robust nonconference slate

Oklahoma athletics director Roger Denny says College Football Playoff expansion could be a route to scheduling tougher nonconference games and, ideally, a return of the Sooners' rivalry series against Oklahoma State.
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"It's huge for our state and our fans," said Denny, who took over as OU's AD on Feb. 15. "We've said pretty openly that's something we think is important to Oklahoma -- the state, not just the institution. So if we have a way to [play Oklahoma State] in a way that doesn't limit our opportunities [in the playoff], certainly that's something we'd want to look into."
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Games like Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State should return; alongside Texas tech vs Texas or vs A&M etc. Look at the excitement that Kansas vs Mizzou created. For us, obviously it’d be a matchup against the mfs who took us off their schedule.

But hopefully we find other opponents….UCF would be a good home & home. UCLA or Washington, really dgaf as long it’s another p4 game, personally.

so we can stop the b1g + sec chest pumping and just line it up.

 
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supacane said:
If it's left up to the teams, they are not gonna schedule more tough games even with more chances to get to the playoffs. We played FSU in game multiple times in game 1 while in the ACC.
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Well the incentive structure is money, both from a tickets sold standpoint and a network standpoint.

I agree that leaving 2 games up to interpretation isn’t going to push programs towards a 11-game p4 structure by itself; however, it’s more likely to, than not, given a 24-team playoff isn’t as punitive as a 12-team one; and we saw a massive cancellation of OOC matchups these past two years.

No matter what, we’re going to get an immediate improvement in OOC games moving forward because this will be illegal, for p4 + ND, starting in 2027:

Of the 138 FBS programs competing in 2026, 20 — 14 percent — enter the season without a single power‑conference opponent on their non‑league slate.……
That group includes nine Power Four members (five from the Big Ten and four from the Big 12), accounting for 13 percent of the power‑conference field
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I cut a couple of the big 12 teams slack here because they scheduled pac-12 teams so long ago. A lot more schedule changes are otw as soon as this 30-day negotiation period with ESPN ends.

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The 20 FBS teams not playing a Power non-conference opponent in 2026

A look at the 20 college football teams not playing a power non-conference opponent in 2026, including Indiana, Penn State, and Texas Tech.
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ARIZONA​

Non-conference schedule: Northern Arizona (Sept. 5), Northern Illinois (Sept. 19), at Washington State (Sept. 26)

HOUSTON​

Non-conference schedule: Oregon State (Sept. 5), Southern (Sept. 12), at Georgia Southern (Sept. 26)

Oregon State, a former power-league team, is on the schedule for Houston in 2026 following a tilt in Corvallis the previous season. Technically speaking, the Cougars haven’t faced a power team outside of conference play since they fell to Oklahoma in 2024 in Norman, 16-12. Next season, Houston will take on LSU at NRG Stadium in Houston.

INDIANA​

Non-conference schedule: North Texas (Sept. 5), Howard (Sept. 12), WKU (Sept. 19)

Indiana, which won the national championship last season, hasn’t faced a power team in non-conference action since a 21-14 loss to Louisville in Indianapolis in 2023. Following their recent decision to cancel a 2030-31 home-and-home series with Notre Dame, the Hoosiers now have zero power opponents on their future non-conference slate.

KANSAS STATE​

Non-conference schedule: Nicholls (Sept. 5), Washington State (Sept. 12), Tulane (Sept. 19)

Like Arizona, Kansas State faces non-power Washington State this season, although the series was scheduled way back in 2016 when the Pac-12 was a power league. The Wildcats are next scheduled to play a power non-conference foe when they visit NC State next season.

NEBRASKA​

Non-conference schedule: Ohio (Sept. 5), Bowling Green (Sept. 12), North Dakota (Sept. 19) Nebraska opened the 2025 season against Cincinnati at Arrowhead Stadium, but doesn’t face a power team in non-conference play in 2026 and 2027 after canceling a series with Tennessee. The Cornhuskers next face a power team in 2028 when they host Arizona.

PENN STATE​

Non-conference schedule: Marshall (Sept. 5), at Temple (Sept. 12), Buffalo (Sept. 19)

Penn State eschewed playing a non-league power team last season and will do it again this fall. The Nittany Lions last played a power opponent outside of league play in 2024 when it crushed West Virginia in Morgantown, 34-12. Looking ahead, PSU has a series scheduled against Syracuse in 2027 (home) and 2028 (away).

TEXAS TECH​

Non-conference schedule: Abilene Christian (Sept. 5), at Oregon State (Sept. 12), Sam Houston (Sept. 26)

Texas Tech hasn’t technically played a power non-conference foe since a 38-30 home loss to Oregon in 2023. The Red Raiders did face former power status teams Washington State in 2024 and Oregon State in 2025. TTU currently doesn’t have a power team slated until 2030 when it faces Arkansas in Las Vegas.

USC​

Non-conference schedule: San Jose State (Aug. 29), Fresno State (Sept. 4), Louisiana (Sept. 12)

With the exception of the COVID season in 2020, USC faced Notre Dame every year since 1946. But tensions between the two schools resulted in a series break for the next four seasons. Earlier this month, the two schools agreed to resume their rivalry in 2030. It’s currently unknown if the Trojans will fill their power non-conference opponent void from 2027 through 2029.

WASHINGTON​

Non-conference schedule: Washington State (Sept. 6), Utah State (Sept. 12), Eastern Washington (Sept. 19)

Washington played former power and in-state rival Washington State last season and hosts the Cougars to open the 2026 season. The two schools will tangle again in 2027 and 2028 before the Huskies begin a series with Tennessee in 2029 and 2030.
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Well the incentive structure is money, both from a tickets sold standpoint and a network standpoint.

I agree that leaving 2 games up to interpretation isn’t going to push programs towards a 11-game p4 structure by itself; however, it’s more likely to, than not, given a 24-team playoff isn’t as punitive as a 12-team one; and we saw a massive cancellation of OOC matchups these past two years.

No matter what, we’re going to get an immediate improvement in OOC games moving forward because this will be illegal, for p4 + ND, starting in 2027:



I cut a couple of the big 12 teams slack here because they scheduled pac-12 teams so long ago. A lot more schedule changes are otw as soon as this 30-day negotiation period with ESPN ends.

fbschedules.com

The 20 FBS teams not playing a Power non-conference opponent in 2026

A look at the 20 college football teams not playing a power non-conference opponent in 2026, including Indiana, Penn State, and Texas Tech.
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Yeah am not totally disagreeing with you. But what am saying is most of the big teams are in 2 conferences. So the way to spice up the early season schedule is to spread out their conference games and put some at rhe beginning of the season. It also may help the team who keep crying about a gauntlet of back to back games. Which usually just means 5 games including Tennessee and Mizzou
 
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The size of the big 2 makes for some weak schedules. Weak years could be bolstered with OOC quality games. BIG might not like it. But they are top heavy.
 
supacane said:
If it's left up to the teams, they are not gonna schedule more tough games even with more chances to get to the playoffs. We played FSU in game multiple times in game 1 while in the ACC.
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To me that was actually our downfall. I hated our season after that game. Left a big fat hole in the middle of the season. We should have never done that right after joining the acc.
 
supacane said:
Yeah am not totally disagreeing with you. But what am saying is most of the big teams are in 2 conferences. So the way to spice up the early season schedule is to spread out their conference games and put some at rhe beginning of the season. It also may help the team who keep crying about a gauntlet of back to back games. Which usually just means 5 games including Tennessee and Mizzou
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Ahh i see what you mean. Yeah, the ACC and XII have smartly done just that in recent years but the B1G and SEC aren’t really abiding by it.

Crying about the gauntlet of games will never go away imo; especially with how heavily that crying is derived from non-elite teams being ranked, which will always happen. They prefer the gauntlet despite their whining; they like being in unison rather than half the teams have a SEC opponent week 1 while others don’t have one until week 4. They like the psychological benefits of being 2-0 or 3-0 before their conference matchups.

Additionally, previously with their eight-game conference schedule, they used (edit: this will be the last year) to have a cupcake-game break before rivalry week; the SEC just got rid of that as they moved to nine-games.

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SEC football to end late-November "cupcake weekend" beginning in 2027

The SEC will end the late-November "cupcake weekend" football games beginning in 2027, it was announced Tuesday.
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“It’s nine conference games and a recognition that you’re populating more weekends,” Sankey said. “And so you really cannot have odd numbers of open or non-conference dates later in the season because then that has a backward domino effect in where you place games early. We ran into some of that in the ’26 season.”
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All of them don’t start their SEC season at the same time because of rivalry week. Georgia, South Carolina, Florida and Kentucky are mandated, i think by law if not de facto atp, to play their in-state ACC counterpart as the last game of the year. Alabama doesn’t have one which is why we saw Bama vs UK this past weekend before Bama plays FSU while Kentucky will play their cupcake in University of South Alabama next weekend; this weekend they have A&M.

Moreover, A&M vs ASU, Utah vs Arkansas, and Minnesota vs Miss State were all fallouts from not having that OOC rival at the end of the year. Mizzou restarted their border war with Kansas after a lull dozen years or so. Those early open dates are available for the taking if OK State vs Oklahoma want to play in the second week like Iowa and Iowa State just did. Texas Tech vs A&M could start a new tradition of being the first game of every year. Texas could do the same with TCU. And so on.
 
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cookies said:
I’m restless to know how we fill our empty schedule slot in the upcoming years. Ideally, another p4 matchup would be preferred.


www.espn.com

OU AD says CFP expansion could pave way for more robust nonconference slate

Oklahoma athletics director Roger Denny says College Football Playoff expansion could be a route to scheduling tougher nonconference games and, ideally, a return of the Sooners' rivalry series against Oklahoma State.
www.espn.com www.espn.com



Games like Oklahoma vs Oklahoma State should return; alongside Texas tech vs Texas or vs A&M etc. Look at the excitement that Kansas vs Mizzou created. For us, obviously it’d be a matchup against the mfs who took us off their schedule.

But hopefully we find other opponents….UCF would be a good home & home. UCLA or Washington, really dgaf as long it’s another p4 game, personally.

so we can stop the b1g + sec chest pumping and just line it up.

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No reason we shouldn't be rotating USF and UCF in every other year.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Chris Fowler is the most insecure cuck in the entirety of the media world. It’s not a secret. He’s yet to meet a pinga he won’t succ as long as there’s a dollar bill coming out the other side.
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Playing these games really only helps and I am excluding ND from this discussion because they don't have a conference schedule. Hiding behind your conference schedule is pathetic. Win a good nonconference game and you have a clear advantage to any committee. Proves that you can beat people. I really only care who you can beat because anyone can lose, its the easiest thing to do. See Oklahoma St already as Exhibit A. If they go on and at most only lose 1 more game, they will be in the hunt because of beating Oregon. No one will care about a week one "bad loss" to Tulsa. No one actually cares who you lose to. No such thing as bad loss or good loss they are just a loss.
 
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Playing these games really only helps and I am excluding ND from this discussion because they don't have a conference schedule. Hiding behind your conference schedule is pathetic. Win a good nonconference game and you have a clear advantage to any committee. Proves that you can beat people. I really only care who you can beat because anyone can lose, its the easiest thing to do. See Oklahoma St already as Exhibit A. If they go on and at most only lose 1 more game, they will be in the hunt because of beating Oregon. No one will care about a week one "bad loss" to Tulsa. No one actually cares who you lose to. No such thing as bad loss or good loss they are just a loss.
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Yeah, but brands and recent history still rule the day within the committtee’s instincts and intuition.

To backup your point, If you’re BYU who has been on the bubble two years running, you can’t feel confident that you’ll get into the playoffs if you lose the ND game and the conference championship game.

10-2 BYU beat SMU & was still ranked below 9-3 Ole Miss + 9-3 USCe, us at 10-2 and Alabama at 9-3.

Our win against UF put us above Ole Miss who lost to them, which in turn put us above South Carolina who lost to Ole Miss. However, ten wins and the best quarterback in college football wasn’t enough to rank us above 9-3 Alabama who lost to 10-2 Tennessee, 6-6 OU & 6-6 Vandy. Both us and bama beat USF by 35+ points however we did it on the road.

Even this past year, we were disrespected by the committee because they put Alabama one spot ahead of us despite the fact that we beat our mutual opponent (FSU) who beat Alabama.

9-3 Texas wasn’t ranked above 11-2 BYU, however, they were ranked ahead of 10-2 Utah, A 10-2 Vandy team they beat, and 10-3 UVA. That respect wasn’t reciprocated towards us who had much more quality wins than 11-1 Oregon; whose best wins were 9-3, ND losing, USC + 8-4 Iowa.

USF, UF, ND, and FAMU was a harder slate than OSU + three cupcakes. I write all this to say that if Texas lost to Kentucky or Mississippi state in overtime instead of UF, we are likely living in a drastically different world atm.
 
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cookies said:
Yeah, but brands and recent history still rule the day within the committtee’s instincts and intuition.

To backup your point, If you’re BYU who has been on the bubble two years running, you can’t feel confident that you’ll get into the playoffs if you lose the ND game and the conference championship game.

10-2 BYU beat SMU & was still ranked below 9-3 Ole Miss + 9-3 USCe, us at 10-2 and Alabama at 9-3.

Our win against UF put us above Ole Miss who lost to them, which in turn put us above South Carolina who lost to Ole Miss. However, ten wins and the best quarterback in college football wasn’t enough to rank us above 9-3 Alabama who lost to 10-2 Tennessee, 6-6 OU & 6-6 Vandy. Both us and bama beat USF by 35+ points however we did it on the road.

Even this past year, we were disrespected by the committee because they put Alabama one spot ahead of us despite the fact that we beat our mutual opponent (FSU) who beat Alabama.

9-3 Texas wasn’t ranked above 11-2 BYU, however, they were ranked ahead of 10-2 Utah, A 10-2 Vandy team they beat, and 10-3 UVA. That respect wasn’t reciprocated towards us who had much more quality wins than 11-1 Oregon; whose best wins were 9-3, ND losing, USC + 8-4 Iowa.

USF, UF, ND, and FAMU was a harder slate than OSU + three cupcakes. I write all this to say that if Texas lost to Kentucky or Mississippi state in overtime instead of UF, we are likely living in a drastically different world atm.
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You have to play at least one big boy in the nonconference, have to. Any program that wants to actually win a natty now you have to test your team. if you happen to lose that one big non conference game its not the death blow it used to be. I'm just not seeing the argument that now that there is a real playoff means there is no reason to schedule good non conference games. there is actually more incentive IMO
 
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