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Some thoughts on the Canes-Duke...

gogeta4 said:
the defense is a bunch of robots

he has coached the natural ability and iq out of them they play tight as **** and not instinctive save a few guys from play to play.

* Jacobs had a good day. He has gotten comfortable..he needs one or two deep shots a game just to keep teams honest and to test em out.
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I just think it's the wrong system for the talent we have.

We have three big, physical CBs in O'Connor, Brown and Lucas who like to get their hands on you, and we ask them to bail and cover a deep zone on every play.

That TD that was called back on Lucas was deja vu - we've seen him beat like that all season, he can't run with players when he doesn't get his hands on them. Conversely the INT was exactly how he should be playing.

The starting LBs are just lost in pass coverage at this point and I don't know why we don't let the more athletic LBs play. It's been a problem since Golden at Miami - they prefer seniority over ability at that position.
 
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gogeta4 said:
first play of the game against nd shows this....Oconoor could ve had a pick 6.. matter of fact he did it again this week so its being coached that way...back to qb playing the wr..no instincts to the ball whatso ever.
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don’t forget the natty. But then we see Scott jump a route for a pick 6 against OSU. So is it the scheme or the players?

I remember people saying the Scott one was film study. He knew exactly what was coming when he saw the formation. Ed Reed-style. Football IQ

O’Connor doesn’t seem to recognize the plays.
 
When I read posts like this it’s pretty obvious no one watches any other teams play. Did anyone watch Georgia and Alabama the week after their big game? Who besides Georgia would we be afraid of? Utah, UCLA, Indiana, Texas, Alabama. Not really. Our offensive line sucks. But when Mali is back we have the most explosive offense in CFB.
 
OldhamA said:
I just think it's the wrong system for the talent we have.

We have three big, physical CBs in O'Connor, Brown and Lucas who like to get their hands on you, and we ask them to bail and cover a deep zone on every play.

That TD that was called back on Lucas was deja vu - we've seen him beat like that all season, he can't run with players when he doesn't get his hands on them. Conversely the INT was exactly how he should be playing.

The starting LBs are just lost in pass coverage at this point and I don't know why we don't let the more athletic LBs play. It's been a problem since Golden at Miami - they prefer seniority over ability at that position.
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T he bolded is why i dont even fully fault the kids cause its quite clear what their covg issues are....

Heatherman is scared sh*tless of them giving up explosives because we dont have the incredible duo at edge getting there in under 3 seconds...but he is antequated because he also is giving up free releases and gimme throws which is why the dl cant get there.

ssentially ive seen others state this but hes coaching the defense as if they ARE RUTGERS or some slogged Big 10 team...some shades of No Frio.

Again why some gray beard isnt brought in as an analyst I have no clue..everything cant just be about RECRUITING RECRUITING..
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
Maybe I am misremembering but Guidrys defense was just fundamentally unsound and awful. DNofrios was more of a passive read/react
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watched memphis on thursday guidrys defense still remains the same....

No Frio ran that big 10 passive react bull sh*t that we are seeing some this year...coaching like you have DL at CB..Playing them off n afraid of deep shots...these dudes dont understand these south florida dbs have never played that way in their life..
 
k9cane said:
  • At times it was a struggle, other times it was maddening, but Miami was finally able to pull away from a fired up Manny Diaz-led Duke squad by the score of 36-25 at Hard Rock Stadium. Miami won but truthfully, do you see a team at the moment that can really make a deep playoff run?

    Some thoughts on the game....

    - Miami is still learning a bit how to play without the great Malachi Toney (yeah, this guy made up for a LOT of things) but they finally got things going a bit in the second half. Offensively, this Oline just isn't getting a push consistently enough early -- and with that, running the ball in the first half of games will be tough in my view, until you put some snaps on defenses and wear them down a bit.

    - With Mark Fletcher hobbled with a lower body injury and sideline in the second half, it was great to see Jordan Lyle deliver some key plays. He ran hard with some real violence and gave the UM offense a boost. He gained some valuable yards.

    Then there is super-frosh Javion Mallory. He was great this game, but with a catch-and-run for a 63 yard touchdown reception that gave Miami some breathing room at 22-10. Then he broke off 39 yard run to put the game away at 36-17. He had 79 yards receiving and 71 yards rushing on just 13 touches. Vince Lombardi would love this guy -- he has a natural knack of running to daylight. His vision is better than any other back on this roster

    - Cooper Barkate seems to be getting more comfortable as the #1 receiver without Toney( 8 catches, 134 yards) and Mario Cristobal did not lie -- Dre Jacobs did earn more playing time and he made some key plays to extend drives. But I still don't think the Canes have a wide receiver that truly scares anyone outside.

    - The offensive line had some issues, Mensah's ability to move and extend plays, really helped. But it's clear that they need to hit the portal in the off-season. Some of the staffs evals and lack of getting a solid, veteran big-body inside in the last portal period have hurt this unit. Mensah was 30 for 41, 382 yards today.

    The offense still had 532 yards of total offense. This team will probably have to just out-score people from here on out.

    - As for the defense, well...it's clear that this unit isnt what it was last year. I flat out think it's not all that good. Bain and Mesidore camouflaged a lot of things with their sheer ability to create pressure off the edge. But what's alarming is how unsound they are in certain aspects of the game. Stuff like giving up 3rd and 15 on a short dump off. And not leveraging the ball back inside enough, and then tackling with force

    -Nate Sheppard, once he got going, he got going. He was as advertised

    - Miami seemed to play more man-press, but this defense lacks speed at linebacker, and the edge rusher have generally been a disappointment. This unit has taken a couple of steps backwards this season.

    - I found the last sequence of downs where Miami gave up that late touchdown interesting( and those who bet certainly cared about it) but the penalties at the end that cost Miami a goal line stop. The lack of attention to detail is a bit alarming. I know a coach who says, ''if it's not OK in losing, it's not OK in winning."

    Guess which coach says that...
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I was glad to see Woodrow get in the game. Offense is fine even though our line aint great.

Defensively. Blount is not healthy but fighting through. Wilson is the bust I thought he was walking his tape at Mizzou.
Most of the big plays happen when Mo Toure is in the middle and when JJ messes up. When Bonner and Marcelin were in they played faster imo.
X seems to be fighting off an injury and o'conner is just inconsistent and weak. This teams needs an upgrade in talent defensively.
 
OldhamA said:
I just think it's the wrong system for the talent we have.

We have three big, physical CBs in O'Connor, Brown and Lucas who like to get their hands on you, and we ask them to bail and cover a deep zone on every play.

That TD that was called back on Lucas was deja vu - we've seen him beat like that all season, he can't run with players when he doesn't get his hands on them. Conversely the INT was exactly how he should be playing.

The starting LBs are just lost in pass coverage at this point and I don't know why we don't let the more athletic LBs play. It's been a problem since Golden at Miami - they prefer seniority over ability at that position.
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You guys don't understand football...at all: the reason we have the number 1 rush defense is because of our aggressive zone scheme which (in theory) maintains sound leverage, gap integrity, and keeps all eyes on the ball. The reason our pass D struggles is because we choose to cover areas to maintain structural soundness over simply attempting to lock down the opponent's passing game and wide receivers. You can't do both simultaneously like we did last year without serious talent in the trenches and secondary - we have holes from departures and inuries at edge, nickel, and safety.
 
aleahy said:
I think what is frustrating is we should have a ton of momentum and be rolling downhill. We just aren’t.

The OL was botched. The defense looks unsound and plays with poor fundamentals frequently. And, on top of that, we don’t play with great intensity. More like a team that goes through the motions.

Maybe I’m too negative, but it feels like we should be better and have more energy than we do. We are quickly running out of time here.
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This is what happens when you pay players.
 
colperm said:
I don’t know how you people get so upset with a double-digit without Toney. Just need to win, avoid major injuries and keep getting better.

Not every game is going to be 45-7
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Some peoples standards are dominating every snap of every game which no team in college football does.

People are saying UGA would blow us out but I watched that team lose to a terrible Auburn squad at home lmao

They have standards that are impossible to reach which means it's going to be impossible for them to enjoy watching us play.

I'll take the 1-0
 
Colombie said:
Upshaw made some huge plays for us.

Played very well when people were dogging him all week.
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I think he's clearly a good player, he's just not Toney - and that's what people have got used to seeing in the slot.

He'll probably be somewhere around Restrepo's level when it's all said and done (without the ball being force fed to him like it was Restrepo).
 
gogeta4 said:
T he bolded is why i dont even fully fault the kids cause its quite clear what their covg issues are....

Heatherman is scared sh*tless of them giving up explosives because we dont have the incredible duo at edge getting there in under 3 seconds...but he is antequated because he also is giving up free releases and gimme throws which is why the dl cant get there.

ssentially ive seen others state this but hes coaching the defense as if they ARE RUTGERS or some slogged Big 10 team...some shades of No Frio.

Again why some gray beard isnt brought in as an analyst I have no clue..everything cant just be about RECRUITING RECRUITING..
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Geoff Collins is at a loose end and has history with Cristobal, bring him in.
 
nycane said:
I was glad to see Woodrow get in the game. Offense is fine even though our line aint great.

Defensively. Blount is not healthy but fighting through. Wilson is the bust I thought he was walking his tape at Mizzou.
Most of the big plays happen when Mo Toure is in the middle and when JJ messes up. When Bonner and Marcelin were in they played faster imo.
X seems to be fighting off an injury and o'conner is just inconsistent and weak. This teams needs an upgrade in talent defensively.
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I don't think O'Connor is healthy either.
 
TemplarCane said:
I can see a deep playoff run

if...

Mali returns 100%
Mensah continues to roll
Dawson realizes the offense has more than Mali and does not play call into a shell
RB Room gets off

I have no faith in the defense.
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Bunch of idiots as coaches.. seriously. The D had one job... keep eyes on Sheppard and stay next to him. Let someone else beat you.
Nope... they lose him and he goes free has 2 scores
 
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