Some thoughts from last night at the Hard Rock...

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OK, so some quick thoughts on the #Canes victory over FSU last night at Hard Rock

- Solid, methodical, measured win by Miami as they weren't particularly explosive in the throw game. But they were in control throughout and came out on top 36-14. Good teams win, great teams cover, right? His numbers weren't great, but I thought Cam Ward played a very controlled and mature game. He didn't get greedy and he understood that this FSU offense was limited (and really just flat out bad)

The only way Miami could lose this game was to give it away with turnovers. He seemed to hold onto the ball a bit too long at times but extending plays is part of his game. It wasn't the sustained fireworks many expected or the explosive knockout that many wanted. If this was a prizefight, Miami was Mike 'the Body Snatcher' McCallum on Saturday night. They just chipped away to the body and just broke down the Noles late.

It wasn't their best game offensively, but they still got over 200 yards-plus passing and rushing vs FSU. They still produced 31 first downs ,over 440 yards and had the ball for 35 minutes. The only thing really was missing were the big plays in the throw game

- Never thought I'd be at a game where Elijah Arroyo threw more touchdown passes than Ward.

- The Noles defensive front played hard and well(at least as it came to rushing the passer), which is no surprise. If there was a game where guys like Darrell Jackson were going to play hard it was this game. Jackson will be a guy who NFL teams will really debate about his effort and production prior to the draft. The Noles got five sacks and pressured Cam several other times. Thomas and Cypress are a good set of corners. Im not completely surprised by how this game played out. I know it's a cliche, but rivalry games are different and oftentimes more difficult.

But they also played a defense in way to not get completely blown out. In that sense they did gain a moral victory in what is now a 1-7 season.

- If Im Mike Norvell I keep going into this youth movement with underclassmen. There is an old saying -- if you're going to be bad, be young.

- Great to see Damien Martinez have another strong outing. He's running with some real authority and power, and he's become a reliable outlet receiver. He and Fletcher have become a really effective 1-2 punch, and Ajay Allen, watching him from the endzone seats, you can really see how good his feet are on the couple carries he got.

- Miami's defense needed a game like this. Lets be clear, they didn't play the 1999 Rams, but for the most part they played a pretty sound game, overall. It's a good way to build some confidence on the back end. They still give up the edge and lose contain more than a coach would probably like to see. But this defense will be at it's most effective when they are allowed to play from ahead and can rush the passer.

- So Miami snaps a three game losing streak to FSU. No matter how bad they are this year, it's always good to win rivalry games. After living through the five game losing streak in the beginning of the Butch Davis era, and then the 7 game skid to the Noles from 2010 to 2016, you learn not to take this stuff for granted.

- This was probably the most muted Miami-FSU game Ive attended, with the least amount of Nole fans in attendance. Yeah, records matter. Very good crowd at Hard Rock last night. They announced a sell-out and it did look full. But to be honest, it wasn't the atmosphere of the 2017 Notre Dame madhouse. But still, a fun night.

- Miami is now 8-0 in year three of Mario Cristobal. You can argue that he's well ahead of schedule, at the same time you could say that things were accelerated by the acquisition of Ward. Both can be true. But this is exactly the type of season Cristobal needed to lay the foundation for the future of his tenure at UM.

I love the trajectory of this program. (Slams fist on table, and walks away from tweet)
 
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I need to see it without Ward.

I'm sure FSU fans said they "like the trajectory" 3 months ago.
You saw it “without ward” last night as we didn’t need him much in that game and still won by more than 3 scores and could have been even worse. It showed Miami is improving the roster regardless of what ward has done so far this year
 
Mario has recruited top 10 clases and built a foundation outside of the portal. Norvell has not while relying on the portal. Stop comparing us to those fools.
to compare what Mario has built from HS recruiting to Norvell, I mean, yeah. I don't know what to say. As you stated, there really is no comparison between the two programs
 
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Need to see it without ward? Why? His recruitment and acquisition doesn’t count? If we get the top qb in the portal next year and run the table it doesn’t count? Or if we bring in a top qb and he lights it up? I don’t get it.
Right! That's like saying I want to see the 90s Bulls win without Jordan. Or the Chiefs win w/o Mahomes.
 
You saw it “without ward” last night as we didn’t need him much in that game and still won by more than 3 scores and could have been even worse. It showed Miami is improving the roster regardless of what ward has done so far this year
Ward was still a big reason we won. When you score on 7 of 8 drives, and don't turn the ball over, you've had a good night. Especially against a team with decent D, and very little O.
 
You saw it “without ward” last night as we didn’t need him much in that game and still won by more than 3 scores and could have been even worse. It showed Miami is improving the roster regardless of what ward has done so far this year
That was against a terrible offense and against a defense that played to protect against the pass because of Ward.

I like the trajectory too (especially on the LOS) but let's not act like all of a sudden Mario created a team who can just line up against anybody on both sides of the ball man to man and dominate. That was a bad offensive FSU team who was playing defense not to get beat over the top.
 
I need to see it without Ward.

I'm sure FSU fans said they "like the trajectory" 3 months ago.
Wouldn't be surprised if we take a bit of a step back next season. Losing a QB like Ward can do that to any team. But if we continue to improve in other areas and continue on this overall path into the future, then our trajectory is absolutely up. An upward trending line still has ups and downs within it 📈
 
OK, so some quick thoughts on the #Canes victory over FSU last night at Hard Rock

- Solid, methodical, measured win by Miami as they weren't particularly explosive in the throw game. But they were in control throughout and came out on top 36-14. Good teams win, great teams cover, right? His numbers weren't great, but I thought Cam Ward played a very controlled and mature game. He didn't get greedy and he understood that this FSU offense was limited (and really just flat out bad)

The only way Miami could lose this game was to give it away with turnovers. He seemed to hold onto the ball a bit too long at times but extending plays is part of his game. It wasn't the sustained fireworks many expected or the explosive knockout that many wanted. If this was a prizefight, Miami was Mike 'the Body Snatcher' McCallum on Saturday night. They just chipped away to the body and just broke down the Noles late.

It wasn't their best game offensively, but they still got over 200 yards-plus passing and rushing vs FSU. They still produced 31 first downs ,over 440 yards and had the ball for 35 minutes. The only thing really was missing were the big plays in the throw game

- Never thought I'd be at a game where Elijah Arroyo threw more touchdown passes than Ward.

- The Noles defensive front played hard and well(at least as it came to rushing the passer), which is no surprise. If there was a game where guys like Darrell Jackson were going to play hard it was this game. Jackson will be a guy who NFL teams will really debate about his effort and production prior to the draft. The Noles got five sacks and pressured Cam several other times. Thomas and Cypress are a good set of corners. Im not completely surprised by how this game played out. I know it's a cliche, but rivalry games are different and oftentimes more difficult.

But they also played a defense in way to not get completely blown out. In that sense they did gain a moral victory in what is now a 1-7 season.

- If Im Mike Norvell I keep going into this youth movement with underclassmen. There is an old saying -- if you're going to be bad, be young.

- Great to see Damien Martinez have another strong outing. He's running with some real authority and power, and he's become a reliable outlet receiver. He and Fletcher have become a really effective 1-2 punch, and Ajay Allen, watching him from the endzone seats, you can really see how good his feet are on the couple carries he got.

- Miami's defense needed a game like this. Lets be clear, they didn't play the 1999 Rams, but for the most part they played a pretty sound game, overall. It's a good way to build some confidence on the back end. They still give up the edge and lose contain more than a coach would probably like to see. But this defense will be at it's most effective when they are allowed to play from ahead and can rush the passer.

- So Miami snaps a three game losing streak to FSU. No matter how bad they are this year, it's always good to win rivalry games. After living through the five game losing streak in the beginning of the Butch Davis era, and then the 7 game skid to the Noles from 2010 to 2016, you learn not to take this stuff for granted.

- This was probably the most muted Miami-FSU game Ive attended, with the least amount of Nole fans in attendance. Yeah, records matter. Very good crowd at Hard Rock last night. They announced a sell-out and it did look full. But to be honest, it wasn't the atmosphere of the 2017 Notre Dame madhouse. But still, a fun night.

- Miami is now 8-0 in year three of Mario Cristobal. You can argue that he's well ahead of schedule, at the same time you could say that things were accelerated by the acquisition of Ward. Both can be true. But this is exactly the type of season Cristobal needed to lay the foundation for the future of his tenure at UM.

I love the trajectory of this program. (Slams fist on table, and walks away from tweet)
Darrell Jackson is a lazy selfish player. He was responsible for one of FSU’s too many players on the field penalty. He can rot in the festering bowels of Trailerhassee. It’s where he belongs.
 
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Need to see it without ward? Why? His recruitment and acquisition doesn’t count? If we get the top qb in the portal next year and run the table it doesn’t count? Or if we bring in a top qb and he lights it up? I don’t get it.


if we win a title this year, you will hear from some 'i want to see a title without Cam, this title was just luck.'

Some people have a loser mentality and think negatively. Some people are know-it-alls and just get mad when something good happens that they didn't account for. Either group w fight you to the death to prove they are right.
 
OK, so some quick thoughts on the #Canes victory over FSU last night at Hard Rock

- Solid, methodical, measured win by Miami as they weren't particularly explosive in the throw game. But they were in control throughout and came out on top 36-14. Good teams win, great teams cover, right? His numbers weren't great, but I thought Cam Ward played a very controlled and mature game. He didn't get greedy and he understood that this FSU offense was limited (and really just flat out bad)

The only way Miami could lose this game was to give it away with turnovers. He seemed to hold onto the ball a bit too long at times but extending plays is part of his game. It wasn't the sustained fireworks many expected or the explosive knockout that many wanted. If this was a prizefight, Miami was Mike 'the Body Snatcher' McCallum on Saturday night. They just chipped away to the body and just broke down the Noles late.

It wasn't their best game offensively, but they still got over 200 yards-plus passing and rushing vs FSU. They still produced 31 first downs ,over 440 yards and had the ball for 35 minutes. The only thing really was missing were the big plays in the throw game

- Never thought I'd be at a game where Elijah Arroyo threw more touchdown passes than Ward.

- The Noles defensive front played hard and well(at least as it came to rushing the passer), which is no surprise. If there was a game where guys like Darrell Jackson were going to play hard it was this game. Jackson will be a guy who NFL teams will really debate about his effort and production prior to the draft. The Noles got five sacks and pressured Cam several other times. Thomas and Cypress are a good set of corners. Im not completely surprised by how this game played out. I know it's a cliche, but rivalry games are different and oftentimes more difficult.

But they also played a defense in way to not get completely blown out. In that sense they did gain a moral victory in what is now a 1-7 season.

- If Im Mike Norvell I keep going into this youth movement with underclassmen. There is an old saying -- if you're going to be bad, be young.

- Great to see Damien Martinez have another strong outing. He's running with some real authority and power, and he's become a reliable outlet receiver. He and Fletcher have become a really effective 1-2 punch, and Ajay Allen, watching him from the endzone seats, you can really see how good his feet are on the couple carries he got.

- Miami's defense needed a game like this. Lets be clear, they didn't play the 1999 Rams, but for the most part they played a pretty sound game, overall. It's a good way to build some confidence on the back end. They still give up the edge and lose contain more than a coach would probably like to see. But this defense will be at it's most effective when they are allowed to play from ahead and can rush the passer.

- So Miami snaps a three game losing streak to FSU. No matter how bad they are this year, it's always good to win rivalry games. After living through the five game losing streak in the beginning of the Butch Davis era, and then the 7 game skid to the Noles from 2010 to 2016, you learn not to take this stuff for granted.

- This was probably the most muted Miami-FSU game Ive attended, with the least amount of Nole fans in attendance. Yeah, records matter. Very good crowd at Hard Rock last night. They announced a sell-out and it did look full. But to be honest, it wasn't the atmosphere of the 2017 Notre Dame madhouse. But still, a fun night.

- Miami is now 8-0 in year three of Mario Cristobal. You can argue that he's well ahead of schedule, at the same time you could say that things were accelerated by the acquisition of Ward. Both can be true. But this is exactly the type of season Cristobal needed to lay the foundation for the future of his tenure at UM.

I love the trajectory of this program. (Slams fist on table, and walks away from tweet)
The one thing that got on my nerves the most while watching it on TV, was the Noles band constantly playing in the background. Our fans weren't even loud enough to drown out our rivals band in our own sold out stadium.
 
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