Social media’s impact on football coaches

[Calvin]

What social media does is give alot of the ignorant a place to spew it. That's why we got the right headcoach in place at UM cause he dont give a ratz nickel about what alot of the keyboard jockey's think. He knows how fickle people are and in fact it makes him laugh cause he knows even when winning people will still complain, so if they complaining while you winning, why should he care about any of the social media crybabies who many dont understand football.

Social media will actually help us weed out the recruits that dont need to be here or even the current players. Im sure perry understands now, you go out and your stats are 3 of 6 for 20yrds with 2 picks, than go 6 of 24 for 52yrds, he should be embarrassed to post a social media video with him holding money, or saying anything about he watching film, "is this what yall wanna see" those stats make him look like a clown doing that. But he seems to have refocused back to that self pride and is not trying to go out like that again.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Someone here gets it.

Look at what happened to Brian Kelly in 2016. He had a 4-8 season. He self evaluated and realized he had to change things up. Overhauled the staff, and 2 years later, he's in the college football playoff. The reason people are tired of Richt is he's shown a propensity for not wanting to change things up and wants to stay comfortable with what he knows.

Which is exactly what the last guy did.

 

[Go Canes!!]

It's amazing how many people are on here patting themselves on the back about how certaintly they "know" this offense will never get better, just days after a thread reappeared with them ripping Manny to shreds and calling for his job just three months ago.

Richt has an overwhelming anount of responsibility in what's happening with this offense, but come on, does anyone out here think experience, lack of depth and at certain positions a lack of talent didn't contribute to what occured this year?

I've been a fan for 35+ years and season ticket holder for 25+. This fan base has always been impossibly impatient and unreasonable. Has it been warranted in some cases? Absolutely. But it's also been ridiculous in others.

I guarantee many of the same fans who called Jimmy a choker after Penn State and hurled insults about Butch's mother and called every name in the book as he went 0-10 against FSU and Virginia Tech now only remember them with reverence.

 

[MikeCane18]

Agree on the impact of social media at Miami, why aren’t Oregon, A&M, Penn st, FSU, Tenn, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Stanford and NC st (all teams that are ranked ahead of us in recruiting that had disappointing seasons relative to expectations) feeling the same effect?

Seems to me unless you’re Bama or Clemson there’s always something to ***** about, and Miami fans either have way more time on their hands to ***** or I(we) notice it more because we’re closer to the program.

Clemson fans have been particularly testy lately and Dabo took notice and called them out, basically telling them to STFU. The social media thing works both as a benefit and a hindrance. But when you are losing games you shouldn't be it becomes a gigantic issue and particularly with our fanbase everyone needs to be fired. Comes with the territory when coaching at Miami, as unfortunate as it may be.

 

[Go Canes!!]

There’s a lot of truth to what u say, but I think you’re leaving something out...

The level of toxicity rose as it did not just because Al couldn’t field a decent D, but also because he refused to try to fix it. Rick is making the same mistake.

When the problem is obvious, and the HC stubbornly sticks by what isn’t working, the fans are gonna be angry.

If Al got a real DC, the fans would’ve put their fangs away for a season. If rick gets a real OC, the fanbase will settle down.

Not holding my breath tho.

The fans here never put their fangs away buddy, you know that. Every coach here is as good as their last win or loss.

 

[k9cane]

Or maybe just maybe, the coach could not suck. All negativity coming from fans is warranted.

His refusal to accept clear weakness is troubling. His son is a joke yet Rick continues to employ him.

now it's the meanies on social media's fault, lol

 

[k9cane]

Ineptness and incompetence breeds toxicity.

bingo

Now, we're at the stage its the fans fault. It never fails...

 

[deleted19096]

What social media does is give alot of the ignorant a place to spew it. That's why we got the right headcoach in place at UM cause he dont give a ratz nickel about what alot of the keyboard jockey's think. He knows how fickle people are and in fact it makes him laugh cause he knows even when winning people will still complain, so if they complaining while you winning, why should he care about any of the social media crybabies who many dont understand football.

Social media will actually help us weed out the recruits that dont need to be here or even the current players. Im sure perry understands now, you go out and your stats are 3 of 6 for 20yrds with 2 picks, than go 6 of 24 for 52yrds, he should be embarrassed to post a social media video with him holding money, or saying anything about he watching film, "is this what yall wanna see" those stats make him look like a clown doing that. But he seems to have refocused back to that self pride and is not trying to go out like that again.

 

[g8rh8rMD]

Spot on, richt caused this though. he Can fix it but majority of canes fans highly doubt that he will due to his stubborn nature. Coaches create the toxic environment, fans don’t. Wouldn’t have anything to complain about if there wasn’t so many problems with our dreadful offense and quite frankly bad recruiting right now

The patience has run out, we sat through a string of bad hires and donofrio defense. Now we have richt led offense who is equivalent to that donofrio defense on the offensive side of the ball being inept. All Miami fans are fed up and want change. richt can gtfoh if he doesn’t hire a new offensive coordinator, we don’t have time to waste

Exactly. Richt and Golden got paid significant sums of money to lead the program and to identify and solve problems before they occurred. When the fans see problems and start to point them out, and the head coach, instead of solving the problem, tells us all it doesn't exist, and we are too stupid to know what we are talking about and should just shut up and buy tickets and come support the team no matter what...

We all told Richt all spring and summer that his offense was predictable and the QB and OL situations were bad. He did nothing about either. He's either too stupid or too lazy to be the HC any more. Chise is absolutely right, bringing in a high powered OC and ringing up points starting game 1 next year will be the only chance he has, but even then, what confidence are any of us going to have that he can fix the next problem that pops up before it becomes a major disaster?

Manny on the other hand, had some deficiencies in covering the pass revealed at the end of last season. He responded by creating a new position and our defense had the best year it's had in over a decade. Don't tell us we are too stupid to watch a football game and see what the glaring deficiencies are.

Information is more freely available now than ever. That is good news for most of us, but not for the lazy, corrupt, and inept.

 

[gruntking]

Hey how about earning that $4M chump change salary.

 

[TheEye]

Agree on the impact of social media at Miami, why aren’t Oregon, A&M, Penn st, FSU, Tenn, Auburn, Arkansas, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Stanford and NC st (all teams that are ranked ahead of us in recruiting that had disappointing seasons relative to expectations) feeling the same effect?

Seems to me unless you’re Bama or Clemson there’s always something to ***** about, and Miami fans either have way more time on their hands to ***** or I(we) notice it more because we’re closer to the program.

With today's demands, I wonder how warmly Shnelly would have been received. "Guys, he's a 4-13 as a head coach! Why did we hire this loser?!" or in his first year "5 wins!? Haven't we seen enough?"

I think the ultimate issue we have is locking down S. Florida. Bama, Clemson, OSU, and UGA all swoop into S. Florida like they own the place. Yet, we have the expectations of winning National Championships well outside of a top 15 athletic budget. Also, we tend to disregard the cost of living vs. these National Championship winning schools.

 

[imyrhuckleberry]

This board, any uncensored social media for that matter, reflects the principles of supply and demand; of a free market economy at work. People talk about what tastes good or bad, works good or bad. sounds good or bad, etc. Reputations are made that way; good or bad. Products improve because of it or they don't get used. Social Media's impact on football coaches is the same as it's effect on everything else in a free market: In an uncensured ecosystem, it works; in a censured one, it doesn't.

 

[caneworld]

I actually tend to think Jimmy would have been buried on social media too. The situation with him and the leftover coaches in 1984 was the very definition of toxic. And then in 1985, losing to the Gators opening day and getting blown out by Tennessee in a major bowl game. And then the original Fiasco Bowl in the 1986 season. I think social media may have dragged JJ down to the point where we wouldn't have won a title in 1987, had it existed at the time.

I also do think that in general, we are some of the worst fans on social media, and tend to play a real part in creating that air of toxicity around our own program. It would help somewhat if a preponderance of our fans weren't such ****s on social media. IMO.

JJ would have adapted to the social media onslaught .... no one knows how social media would have affected that teams of yesteryear. ... I am convinced that he would have somehow made it his time in the sun regardless... the greats always seem to find the path to greatness..

 

[MedleyCane]

The big problem for slugs like Rick and Folden is social media. It used to be that the only coverage you’d get of UM football was Edwin Pope and Linda Robertson gargling the goo of whoever was the UM HC. And the feeble voices of UM on WQAM making excuses for struggling coaches and dismissing any dissenting voices. As a result, the HC had a lot more leeway and recruits weren’t bombarded with an instant flow of information and truth.

Now, the minute a coach is revealed as a fraud it’s broadcast all over the world, and recruits are hammered with what a disaster the HC is. The program immediately becomes toxic, and recruiting goes in the tank. It’s a very palpable phenomenon.

Our first hardcore social media age HC was Folden. Look at the way the program became toxic as soon as he was revealed as a fraud. We went from beating Alabaga for a bunch of recruits to stealing guys like Bobyonce’ Knowles and Terrance Henley from FIU. Same pattern is now underway with Rick.

I tend to think that once our program reaches this level of social media toxicity I don’t think the current HC can turn it around. It’ll take a miracle OC hire who instantly transforms the offense into a top 5 deal. Otherwise, it’s a wrap. It can’t be slow progress that us vultures could immediately poke holes in. It would have to an immediate and very noticeable turnaround.

If Booch David did what he did here during this same social media age he never would have made it past year 3 or 4. The standard here at the time was infinitely higher than it is now, and he would have been buried by the fans in today’s social media world.

Very well conceived, if not thoughtful, piece Chise.
Slight disagreement on what would have happened to Butch if the the social media was like it is today.
Yeah, there were folks not happy with him....most of them being unstable emotional people who didn't appreciate what Butch inherited at UM, and he did get bannered at least once
But one thing you could say about him is that he wasn't stubbornly ignorant about his staff's shortcomings....yeah, he fed media and fans BS with excuses from time to time, but he did recognize problems and made changes, accordingly...from overhauling the S&C program to bringing in Schiano as DC....one could argue about how great Butch was as HC, but we can all agree that he was proactive in recognizing problems and making changes before things got worse...and not wait to make changes until you're deep in the hotseat....that is what elite coaches do...James Franklin and Brian Kelly are other examples.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Ok, so explain whose fault it is that it gets to the this point? I just don't get it really.
This was a bad year with expectations etc. because the O just wasn't any good and a lot falls on scheme but a lot also falls on the signal caller as well. I will go 50/50 blame. We just didn't have a good enough veteran QB or a phenom in Perry. Perry looks like he could be a good college QB if he keeps his head straight, studies film and works hard but its a gamble at this point with what he has shown/done.
For the fans to get outright toxic is really despicable to me. We won 10 games last year. Richt was the ACC coach of the year last year.

The QB prolly would’ve looked a lot better if the D didn’t know the play before the snap.

 

[1mg of Epi]

The fans here never put their fangs away buddy, you know that. Every coach here is as good as their last win or loss.

Yea it ain’t easy here, but the level of vitriol escalated when golden refused to make changes, same with rick.

You don’t think if rick hired a good OC the fans would simmer down?

 

[Salt]

The big problem for slugs like Rick and Folden is social media. It used to be that the only coverage you’d get of UM football was Edwin Pope and Linda Robertson gargling the goo of whoever was the UM HC. And the feeble voices of UM on WQAM making excuses for struggling coaches and dismissing any dissenting voices. As a result, the HC had a lot more leeway and recruits weren’t bombarded with an instant flow of information and truth.

Now, the minute a coach is revealed as a fraud it’s broadcast all over the world, and recruits are hammered with what a disaster the HC is. The program immediately becomes toxic, and recruiting goes in the tank. It’s a very palpable phenomenon.

Our first hardcore social media age HC was Folden. Look at the way the program became toxic as soon as he was revealed as a fraud. We went from beating Alabaga for a bunch of recruits to stealing guys like Bobyonce’ Knowles and Terrance Henley from FIU. Same pattern is now underway with Rick.

I tend to think that once our program reaches this level of social media toxicity I don’t think the current HC can turn it around. It’ll take a miracle OC hire who instantly transforms the offense into a top 5 deal. Otherwise, it’s a wrap. It can’t be slow progress that us vultures could immediately poke holes in. It would have to an immediate and very noticeable turnaround.

If Booch David did what he did here during this same social media age he never would have made it past year 3 or 4. The standard here at the time was infinitely higher than it is now, and he would have been buried by the fans in today’s social media world.

the last place I would look for truth and objective information is social media but I do understand the negative influence it can have. so you make a good point there.

 

[L A M P]

FSU fans started a gofundme to replace Willie Taggart 3 games into the season of his first year

I started one for Al Golden 3 quarters into the Maryland game.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Yea it ain’t easy here, but the level of vitriol escalated when golden refused to make changes, same with rick.

You don’t think if rick hired a good OC the fans would simmer down?

Go back to the thread from the Pitt loss last year. We had won 15 straight going into that game. Think that will answer your question.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Go back to the thread from the Pitt loss last year. We had won 15 straight going into that game. Think that will answer your question.

If you look further back last season, more than a few here were predicting what ended up happening... the O imploded leading to 4 straight losses.

So that’s where this all started. Actually in year one the offensive problems were obvious too. So it’s been simmering for 3 seasons...
Plenty of time for a coach to make a change.