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So, when is it going 16 teams

I trust the computers more than I do this **** committee. Certainly we can just use some AI software that everyone agrees on. Perhaps one that gives more weight to H2H results and de-emphasizes " good losses " when two teams have similar resumes. The computers don't care about "gutsy 4th down calls" against bowl ineligible teams.
 
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I agree 16 teams is the right number, the big thing is the number of auto bids per conference. Which I think would lead to getting rid of conference championship games and lead to some sort of play in games for conferences
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
Bc that would require P4 only schedules. That would decimate FCS and G5 athletic budgets bc they wouldn’t get the $1-4 million from P4 schools to come play them.

The FCS might not exist in its current form if that happened. And a good amount of G5 teams would also drop football.
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You know I keep wondering what’s going to happen to the FCS in all this. I’m usually a pretty nice, compassionate, empathetic individual but you know what? **** the FCS and that meaningless game that benefits a program but seriously puts their kids in danger by allowing players like Rueben Bain a blindside sack on a 160lb QB. Yes there are a dozen very competitive FCS programs like North Dakota State. Let them play FBS. All the others? Find another revenue source
 
Selfishly, expanding it to 24 would be better for us, because we'd have gotten in this year and last. It would make it roughly equivalent to College Basketball for the number of teams in D-1/FBS per bid. Still, I'm not in favor. You would just have a bunch more teams that have no shot to win the playoff in the playoff. Look at the CFP rankings from 2014-present and tell me why it would be better if the teams ranked 13-24 got in the playoff (https://collegefootballplayoff.com/rankings.aspx) There's no chance this would happen, but I would rather there be 8 teams than 12.

Think the solution isn't in expanding the field, but in finding a better to evaluate who the best/2 best teams are in these giant conferences with unbalanced schedules. 17 in ACC, 16 in Big12, 18 in Big10, 16 in SEC. Going to 9 conference games won't eliminate the issues were seeing in the SEC and ACC CGs, in which the highest CFP ranked SEC team (UGA) is playing the 5th highest CFP ranked team in Bama for the SEC-CG & the 2nd highest CFP ranked ACC team (UVA) is playing an unranked team (Duke). This is a ridiculous setup when the goal is find out who the best team in the conference is. Either get rid of the CGs or choose the top 2 conference teams in the CFP. UGA vs. Ole Miss & Miami vs. UVA.
 
Tru C said:
I am not really interested in this victim narrative that Miami will always get the shaft or ****ed over. It’s kind of bull**** to be honest.
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This is CIS friend; simultaneously adopting a victim mentality & being against corrective measures to address the injustice is considered a rational position here.
 
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E1k said:
What’s the model? Im not familiar
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Every conference champion earns an automatic bid. It's a 24 team playoff with the top 8 seeds getting a first round bye.

Round one was played this past Saturday and the National championship will be played the first weekend of January. Not sure why FBS has to wait several weeks to start their playoff games

FCS schools play a 12 game regular season schedule (Ivy's still only play 9 or 10).

There's a selection committee still but it's to determine seeding (important for that first round bye and hosting games) more so than to determine quality losses.

The at large bids are primarily determined by highest ranked teams not in the playoffs.

Sure, the SEC and B1G bias would still be baked into the process with the preseason rankings, but a team like say Miami or BYU would be ranked high enough to qualify and prove their worth on the field.
 
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YLCANE said:
Well
That would bring me to another issue
Pre season rankings
Get rid of them
No rankings until oct
That we we see who is playing legit football and you have computer rankings
NO AP
NO Coaches
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I have been saying this for years. Don't rank anyone until they play 4 games. That way you get a grea sample of what a team is and go from there. BS rank every SEC team before they play a game.
 
There’s already too many teams. Get rid of automatic qualifiers are aren’t ranked in the CFP top 12. It’s crazy that they have this committee, who’s job is to pick the top 12 teams for a playoff bracket but then some team who’s no considered a top 12 team, wins a garbage conference and they get an auto bid. It just ensures multiple blowouts in the first round. Maybe because it makes the path easier for all the SEC at large teams? Who knows.
 
YLCANE said:
You go to 24
That way every team that won 9 games is in….Texas IS good enough to upset anyone
Michigan could beat some teams
Miami I know can beat anyone
Utah
Byu
Vandy
You can make an argument that they are just as good as oklahoma

If you go to 24
The seeding can still be bull**** and biased BUT
Ultimately it will be decided on the field versus a ******* board room w corrupt individuals deciding by eye test and feelings that will always favor the Great 8 / SEC / B10 teams!!!!
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To keep the conference championship meaningful, teams who compete in the conference title games get auto bids


The 24-Team Field

Auto-bids (title game participants – 18 teams)

Power 4 (8 teams)
  • Ohio State
  • Indiana
  • Georgia
  • Alabama
  • Texas Tech
  • BYU
  • Duke
  • Virginia
Group of 5 (10 teams)
  • Tulane
  • North Texas
  • Kennesaw State
  • Jacksonville State
  • Miami (OH)
  • Western Michigan
  • UNLV
  • Boise State
  • Troy
  • James Madison
All these get auto bids


Play-In Seeding (highest vs. lowest)

Since we don’t need byes in the play-in round (only winners advance), we seed 1–6:
  1. Notre Dame
  2. Ole Miss
  3. Oregon
  4. Miami (FL)
  5. Texas
  6. Vanderbilt
  7. Utah
  8. USC
These play in games will be played the same day as the conference titles.

This will lead to 22 teams. To get 24 the last two teams will be selected by a lottery from the losers of the playing games.

Place their names in the air bubble machine and the two that come up get in. That will still allow the selection day to be compelling.
 
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Play ins, wild cards, whatever you want to call it is a thing. Nothing new. No need for any of this to be complicated.

NFL has 14 teams in its playoff

NCAA FCS has 24 in its playoffs

NCAA D2 has 32 teams in its playoffs

NCAA D3 has 40 teams in it’s playoffs

NAIA football has 20 teams in its playoffs

Florida High School Class 3A had 32 teams in its playoffs

Do i need to go look up Optimist or Pee Wee?
 
LeanMeanOrangeGreen said:
You know I keep wondering what’s going to happen to the FCS in all this. I’m usually a pretty nice, compassionate, empathetic individual but you know what? **** the FCS and that meaningless game that benefits a program but seriously puts their kids in danger by allowing players like Rueben Bain a blindside sack on a 160lb QB. Yes there are a dozen very competitive FCS programs like North Dakota State. Let them play FBS. All the others? Find another revenue source
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This is such a shortsighted take. There is no other revenue source other than donors and state funds. There’s likely not enough interest in FCS to garner a tv deal. So then they cancel other sports just to afford football? Or the other way around?

What are college sports for? To make tv execs rich? Or to provide an education, life skills, and to better young men and women? You’re talking about possibly taking away the futures of thousands of kids.

I’m not willing to take a chance on further destroying thousands of kids lives for the enrichment of a handful of people.
 
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