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So let me get this straight

If you didn't believe several B1G coaches saying they were cheating, then maybe one of their players saying they had Miami's playbook might, make you a believer. That is if you didn't have the common sense to figure it out live while a bunch of our fanbase was cursing Dawson. I know all of IU's opponents will be preparing for them differently in 26 than every other team on their schedule.
 
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The U is back to work said:
Sour grapes reporting but still think they are cheating.

Just don’t see HOW 70-80 mins of practice has a team this prepared week in and week out. I get it they were older. Older doesn’t always mean better. Somehow they hit older is better at like 18/22 starting spots.
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Every. Single. Year. BYU is the "older" football team. They still don't go undefeated like Indiana just did.

It's more than age. It's more than "Cignetti is a good coach". It's certainly more than "they are more prepared" when they have the exact same NCAA limitations on practice time.

Indiana. Is. Cheating. There's no other way to say it.

They are talented and well-coached on fundamentals and they would have won a lot of games without the cheating.

But they wouldn't have won all of the games.
 
Vizslacane said:
Hold on now. Are you serious? Do we think Indiana had Miami's plays (other than learning tendencies, etc)? If we think that, why do we think that?

See, I'm ready to believe it. But I'd like some proof.
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Look, I'm not ready to indict Cignetti on criminal charges. But the smoke is getting thick. We keep getting little pieces that strengthen the suspicions.

I definitely think that Indiana cheats. The players may not be aware of it. But before we found out about Connor Stalions, who thought that Michigan was cheating?
 
Groz73Cane said:
The paranoia factor of a loss of this magnitude is always off the charts. That said, yeah these c**ts f**ked us and infiltrated our playbook. There were red flags prior to the game, scuttlebutt so to speak.That program and its bulls**t one hour practice schedule, f**k that if it walks like a Duck, looks like a Duck, it’s S**t just sayin’
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Miami has lost a lot of games over the years. I can't remember one time in 40 years that I've alleged that the other team had our playbook.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Think about this.

We called a dummy play. ONE guy on Indiana figured out what we were actually going to do, and he TRIED to tell the other 10 guys.

You know how you can figure out that his warning fell on deaf ears? BECAUSE IT WENT FOR A 57 YARD TOUCHDOWN. Our first TD.

Anyone who thinks Indiana DID NOT have our plays is just fooling themselves.

"Well-coached". "Well-prepared". These are Indiana synonyms for "having the other team's offensive playbook".

It sucks, but it's true.
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indiana has been accused by oregon of having their plays as well.
 
We executed at B- level that night. Our opponent was at B+ level. That was the difference. Their offense, defense, and special teams units all came up clutch when needed.
 
Felonious Monk said:
That's easier if you have the answer key.
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Exactly.

People act like "cheating" in football will result in a 100-0 score. As if a "close game" invalidates any accusations of cheating.

And all of that is garbage.

Assuming Indiana had our offensive playbook, there is no way to tell whether we could have executed better or scored more. "Cheating" can turn a close loss into a close win.
 
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You guys are over thinking this. Most linebackers will tell you that you can pick up what a team is running based on splits, body language, and have an understanding of their tendencies when it comes to the run game.

Cici is laughing in part because Disco is a stupid dumby call which he realized after the fact. The calls almost always have a L or R in the name like CiCi said.

If they really wanted to do a dumby call the L / R should have been based on places vs everything else

Louisiana, Lauderdale, Lincoln, New York, Richmond, etc Real Call to signal direction

Oklahoma, Oregon = outside zone
Indiana, Idaho = inside zone

Leader, leopard, rhino, rizzler - Fake call.
Orca, otter, iguana ~ fake calls.

Then at halftime you switch it up where places become fake call and animals / everything else becomes real.

QB comes to line with center and calls out Louisiana Otter, Leader, Oregon = outside zone Left
 
The part of the equation that gets me was when I heard during the Oregon game one of the announcers saying that the coaches love it at Indiana because they get to sleep in their own beds each night because of the reduced hours Indiana spends practicing. I actually thought I misheard it Because how do you practice LESS and win MORE, especially at a perennial s.h!thouse team like Indiana. This whole thing stinks.
 
Smokeshow0809 said:
We executed at B- level that night. Our opponent was at B+ level. That was the difference. Their offense, defense, and special teams units all came up clutch when needed.
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B+ is generous for them…

Mendoza was under 200 yards passing and didn’t throw a TD.

They had about 130ish rushing with 2 TDs.

Penalties and critical turnovers killed us…. How and when we turned the ball over.

Hetherman deserved to get his salary doubled for the game plan he put together
 
They had 3 guys on defense who were never wrong.. that could be good coaching. Guys in a frenzy trying to change the call right before the snap in a look we haven’t shown is another unless you’re telling me ed Reed and Luke Kuechly are out there
 
I think they have smart players but also think they aren’t only relying on film.

Still sick that a blocked punt decided the game, id probably still be calling them cheaters every day but bauman really just let the guy go. I just know this was a coaching point all week and he still let it happen bro its insane
 
E1k said:
I think they have smart players but also think they aren’t only relying on film.

Still sick that a blocked punt decided the game, id probably still be calling them cheaters every day but bauman really just let the guy go. I just know this was a coaching point all week and he still let it happen bro its insane
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Hypothetically, you can feed an AI model with all the plays that UM has run under Dawson and have it spit out a "hypothetical playbook" Additionally it could produce formational and down and distance tendencies, etc. It can quickly produce years of information that no human could ever accomplish in a similar timeframe and manner.
 
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E1k said:
I think they have smart players but also think they aren’t only relying on film.

Still sick that a blocked punt decided the game, id probably still be calling them cheaters every day but bauman really just let the guy go. I just know this was a coaching point all week and he still let it happen bro its insane
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Yes. Two things can be true at the same time.

Bauman should have blocked Kamara and Beck should have thrown the ball farther.

AND Indiana suspiciously knew what to do against our offense for nearly an entire game.
 
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