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apex_predator said:
The mongoloids in this fanbase will tell you CFB doesn't need spending controls. They'll tell you unequal revenue distribution, and resource allocation don't matter. They'll cite examples of outliers like UT, that spend significant resources but still haven't found the right coach, as if to suggest the probability & likelihood of hiring the right coach don't increase with higher spending.

Essentially they will tell you this program can once again recapture the glory of it's heyday, if it only picks itself up from it's bootstraps and "tries harder". Perhaps one day, before they die, they'll become less oblivious of the changes within the CFB landscape in the last 40 yrs. This program can "try harder" and still achieve nothing more than mediocre results. That's what needs to be accepted here.
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Pretty spot-on. And some of those same people also try to tell heart-tugging stories about guys in the NFL who were 2-star recruits and walk-ons, as if that somehow destroys the argument that blue-chip recruits matter.

Bottom line is that the NCAA, and the major conferences, have been cesspools of rules avoidance for decades. Sure, well-meaning state legislatures put limits on how much the coach can be paid? No problem-o, we'll just figure out ways for coaches to be paid by booster clubs and non-profits and local TV stations and shoe companies. And while we are at it, let's (until recently) restrict the players from being paid (and punish a women's volleyball player for "TAKING" a university's water to wash her car), while we allow coaches to be paid multi-million dollar salaries.

Look, I'm not saying I have all the answers on how to fix all the problems in college athletics. And there will always be "good intentions" that lead to "unforeseen and unintended consequences".

But the SEC has been like Hitler's Germany, annexing country after country ("honest, we promise we'll stop after Sudetenland"), and the NCAA has been playing the part of Neville Chamberlain. Coaching salaries have skyrocketed while the triumvirate of Saban, Swinney and Meyer have DOMINATED the actual trophy accumulation over the past 20 years. Those are the only three guys who deserve the money, but a bunch of ham-and-eggers are getting paid and laid at 50 other universities that mistakenly think they have a shot at the crystal football.

And it might already be too late. The NCAA Constitutional Convention could actually be worth a ****e if (a) Thanos snapped his fingers and blipped Mark Emmert out of existence, and (b) the SEC wasn't fully prepared to take its footballs and leave the NCAA forever if the Convention threatens to take away their cash cows and overpaid coaches and unlimited analysts and "academic support centers" and waterslides and whatnot.
 
HurikaneMarc said:
So you're saying that they wanted to run the ball and we didn't want them to run it and the reason for our success was because we knew they were going to run it? A dominant team doesn't care if you know it or not. Alabama doesn't trick teams with its running game. They slam it right at you. And we withstood that.
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Alabama played 3 QBs and 5 running backs in that game, man. Wake up!!!
 
Would prefer to hire a new AD and let him decide what to do with Diaz, or lead a coaching search.

Not a doubt anymore that the AD is the problem (I would say that the BOT is the problem, but they mostly seem to be hand's off at this point, so I think it's clear the distinction starts with Beta Blake James.)
 
The national reaction would be "Miami fires Diaz and Blake James shortly after James gives Diaz a controversial extension."

They're tied at the hip. I think Blake James is just itching to give Manny an extension. The more difficult he makes it for UM to fire Manny the better it is for him. Makes the job harder to fill with a good replacement. BJ knows any decent new AD isn't going to want to tie himself to Manny long-term. Unless its fckn strawley.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Pretty spot-on. And some of those same people also try to tell heart-tugging stories about guys in the NFL who were 2-star recruits and walk-ons, as if that somehow destroys the argument that blue-chip recruits matter.

Bottom line is that the NCAA, and the major conferences, have been cesspools of rules avoidance for decades. Sure, well-meaning state legislatures put limits on how much the coach can be paid? No problem-o, we'll just figure out ways for coaches to be paid by booster clubs and non-profits and local TV stations and shoe companies. And while we are at it, let's (until recently) restrict the players from being paid (and punish a women's volleyball player for "TAKING" a university's water to wash her car), while we allow coaches to be paid multi-million dollar salaries.

Look, I'm not saying I have all the answers on how to fix all the problems in college athletics. And there will always be "good intentions" that lead to "unforeseen and unintended consequences".

But the SEC has been like Hitler's Germany, annexing country after country ("honest, we promise we'll stop after Sudetenland"), and the NCAA has been playing the part of Neville Chamberlain. Coaching salaries have skyrocketed while the triumvirate of Saban, Swinney and Meyer have DOMINATED the actual trophy accumulation over the past 20 years. Those are the only three guys who deserve the money, but a bunch of ham-and-eggers are getting paid and laid at 50 other universities that mistakenly think they have a shot at the crystal football.

And it might already be too late. The NCAA Constitutional Convention could actually be worth a ****e if (a) Thanos snapped his fingers and blipped Mark Emmert out of existence, and (b) the SEC wasn't fully prepared to take its footballs and leave the NCAA forever if the Convention threatens to take away their cash cows and overpaid coaches and unlimited analysts and "academic support centers" and waterslides and whatnot.
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+ 2 for the 1938 Sudetenland reference about the SEC!
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The Svengali said:
Alabama played 3 QBs and 5 running backs in that game, man. Wake up!!!
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Not in the first 3 quarters they didn't. Do you think that Alabama wanted to average 3.9 yards a carry? Even if they had 5 running backs, did they change OL too?

The last big game we played in was UNC and they ripped us running the ball and passing the ball. Before that Clemson did the same thing. We finally hold a team in check in one measley area and you spend all your time trying to discredit even the small victories.
 
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Rellyrell said:
I gotta disagree w/ u OBM

Let’s look at Schnelly:
Coached under both Shula & Bryant (arguably the best NFL & CFB coaches of all time)

Jimmy Johnson:
A Hall of Fame NFL Coach who had a staff full of guys who became either NFL assistants or HC’s

Dennis Erickson:
A drunk who became a tenured NFL Coach & a staff of guys who became NFL assistants or future CFB HC

Butch Davis:
A future NFL HC & a staff full of guys who became NFL assistants or HCs

And that’s where we stop. We won b/c we had talent and a high IQ level staff that was ready to be poached by other programs or the NFL.

The only staff I can recall being poached was Mario, that’s it. Other than that, we’ve had a slew of guys getting fired & going to never never land.
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Mario was also a GA under Butch at UM
 
NicKane said:
I do know this much, all those coaches would out coach and out recruit manure because results on the field would be better then anything manure has put forward and of course winning equals better recruiting. I also know all those coaches aren’t dog**** evaluators and recruiters like Diaz who has been here for 6 ******* years and still hasn’t recruited a D1 linebacker which has been his position since the beginning, hence are group of five talent linebacker room. Why do you love manny so much? Why do you defend a guy that owns the two worst losses in Miami history in fiu and UNC? Why do defend a guy who has shown you what he is, an in over his head coach who lacks the talent to be successful at his job? He’s shown you who he is by continuing to trot out tHe same u disciplined, unprepared and underperforming team for over three years now, dont you see it? Don’t you want better for this program abd football team? Are youGo Canes burner account or mannys?
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You think anyone who isn't ready to burn something down is a Manny lover and defender. Maybe that's your problem. You take anything other than your point of view as defending him or loving him so much. That's not it AT ALL. I can be very disappointed in what happened, but also be very skeptical that Clark, Cincy guy, LA Monroe boy, ND DC, or anyone else is going to get any better results. There is no magic sauce sporto. The only thing that will get us to the top like we were is having the rosters like we had back then. Nothing more, nothing less. YOu can also count me in the camp that says we'll never be there again in this day and age, NO MATTER WHO THE ******* COACH IS. I can absolutely be disappointed, but i can also think that this wont get fixed by any coach you've named....two things can be true at once

Oh wait that's right the other night you waned to trade the guy with two of the worst losses in school history for another dude who has an MUCH BETTER ROSTER....with two of the worse losses in his schools history. Great trade. But i see today you're off that guy and onto the new flavor of the months. You'll realize no coach will fix this because we won't EVER be able to recruit the rosters we had back in the day.
 
ECU ring a bell

How do we lose 5 games the year after we win a natty?

BYU? USF? CINCY? The game that ended our Home Win Streak, UNC 03, GA Tech 05

All bad loses. It's ALL happened before Manny and it will happen after manny.

And again this is no defense of Manny. You people think just cause we don't agree with you we're defending someone Manny. Could care less about Manny. I'd like him to succeed cause that means we're good, quicker, but if he doesn't then we'll suffer through the next guy. Cause as i said i'm in the camp we'll never be BYKE cause we'll never have the rosters we had when we were on top
 
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I dont quite get these threads. Yes, I was disappointed after Saturdays performance. But as of this moment 8-4 is nowhere in my thoughts. I am looking at 11-1 until the record dictates otherwise.
 
HurikaneMarc said:
Not in the first 3 quarters they didn't. Do you think that Alabama wanted to average 3.9 yards a carry? Even if they had 5 running backs, did they change OL too?

The last big game we played in was UNC and they ripped us running the ball and passing the ball. Before that Clemson did the same thing. We finally hold a team in check in one measley area and you spend all your time trying to discredit even the small victories.
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Manny, I watched the game, bruh. You can’t spin your way out of this one.
 
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