Slightly OT: UGA as barometer

[AlexCane]

I'm with Lu on this one. Good players are good players, often independent of size/looks.

Underlying the assumption that S&C is a problem is always the belief that S&C can turn a normal dude into a star. You can maximize someone's ability but S&C isn't going to turn Flagg and Jennings into Ray Lewis.

 

[gogeta4]

lol. No need to make it weird with pictures. We see this one differently is all. Tyrique does look big. But, he just got here from somewhere else. Anyway, I was never overly impressed by how our team looked compared to other teams. We just had really good, fast football players who loved playing tackle football and were better prepared by their coaches to do so. We have some guys on the current team who look solid coming off the bus, but play like flag football players during the 11 on 11 tackle portion of the day.

Jon Ford looks more shredded and bigger than most guys at Bama. Anddddddd.......

 

[Katzenboyer]

I've been banging on this drum for years.

Miami is too small. I get it - speed, quickness, agility, etc. That all matters. But when your starting front 7 has linebackers in the 205-215 range, you're going to get pushed around by an OL that has guys averaging 330+ at all positions.

While speed and quickness matters, at some point football comes down to pushing the other guys around. The OL/DL and LB recruiting in particular has not taken size into consideration on most occasions, and it shows. We're tiny.

 

[CANE1775]

That’s why they were my natty pick. If they can’t win it this year it’ll never happen. They‘re the most talented team in the country by the recruiting rankings. They’re also an older team. It’s now or never.

Actually if you look at the guys that they are playing, they'll be just as good next year. They are loaded with quite a few guys that can return next year.

 

[BS85]

Not true.

LSU forever has dudes go to the combine lookin like sh*t.

UGA and Bama run hybrid 3-4 schemes....THEY RECRUIT BIGGER PLAYERS.

I dont know what so hard to realize that they are bigger...they recruit for it in their scheme on defense.

On offense they recruit bigger OL as well...(Bama and UGA usually have some huge guys coming in)...


Its not even fair to ocmpare the trenches when we are honestly doing different things defensively. I mean we play guys at 270 at DT....they recruit 330-340 pd incoming freshman at dt...UF signed a 400 pounder last class.

I dont want UGA as a barometer for anything since they havent won anything worth a sh*t since ive been alive

I definitely agree that this is at least a huge part of it. We recruit 185-195 lb linebackers who are also under 6'. Hardly anyone starting that small can get to be 235-245 lbs and be athletic. Plus, the same kids are average, at best, athletically to begin with.

You can beat size with speed but not if you're 10-15% smaller across the board, there's a limit to how big the size difference can be. I think that was Manny's plan but Miami only recruits smaller, not faster. It's crazy he thinks it will work.

 

[GOCANES05]

One thing I do know is we need to stay in our little ACC division and NOT venture out at all to even THINK we can even attempt to play with the big boys .

We’re at least 3-4 year’s away if we can pure all the infestation out immediately if not and we go with plausible deniability 5-8 years.

Don’t get mad it’s been here for that long all ready and it isn’t leaving any time soon.

GOCANES

 

[AlphaMarshan]

sadly this is UGA's year....I am not sure even Kirby can fck it up..

That’s why they were my natty pick. If they can’t win it this year it’ll never happen. They‘re the most talented team in the country by the recruiting rankings. They’re also an older team. It’s now or never.

I'll take that bet. UGA has never had a problem recruiting. Ever. They've been pulling in top 10 and even top 5 recruiting classes since I was a kid. I've been hearing about how "this is THE year!" from UGA fans since Stafford, maybe earlier.

They've got 1 championship back in 1980 when they had Herschel, but they love putting themselves in the same tier as Ohio State, Bama and LSU.

Don't get me wrong, they look really good and after Kentucky and Florida their schedule is a cakewalk, but I'm not betting big on UGA to win the SECCG and make a playoff run, they'll blow it to one of those teams. Always do.

 

[Cribby]

I'll take that bet. UGA has never had a problem recruiting. Ever. They've been pulling in top 10 and even top 5 recruiting classes since I was a kid. I've been hearing about how "this is THE year!" from UGA fans since Stafford, maybe earlier.

They've got 1 championship back in 1980 when they had Herschel, but they love putting themselves in the same tier as Ohio State, Bama and LSU.

Don't get me wrong, they look really good and after Kentucky and Florida their schedule is a cakewalk, but I'm not betting big on UGA to win the SECCG and make a playoff run, they'll blow it to one of those teams. Always do.

This is the first year everything works out in their favor , including being better than daddy on paper. That being said their coach is still Kirby smart. Like I said “ if it’s not year this year it’ll never happen“. Kirby normally finds a way to ***** the pootch.

 

[AlphaMarshan]

This is the first year everything works out in their favor , including being better than daddy on paper. That being said their coach is still Kirby smart. Like I said “ if it’s not year this year it’ll never happen“. Kirby normally finds a way to ***** the pootch.

I don't disagree, especially with the Bama loss last night. Assuming they didn't lose, you have to think UGA would need to Bama in the SECCG, then they'd have to beat them AGAIN in the playoffs, since a 1-loss Bama always finds its way back into the playoffs, and no team is beating Saban twice in a season.

With the Bama loss, even if they make it to the SECCG, they'll either win and set their destiny in motion, or lose but still have another chance as I think a 1-loss UGA could still make it in.

But hey, Jimbo winning last night marks the first time a former assistant has ever beaten Saban, maybe it's a sign of things to come!

 

[Biggen]

Upsets happen and of course UGA could drop one to UK or UF. But y’all are blind if you don’t see how good this UGA team is. History has no bearing whatsoever on how this UGA handles their business going forward. Their OC (Monken) is **** good. They are beating the crap out of teams with a walk on QB and a banged up WR corps.

 

[ssvir]

Upsets happen and of course UGA could drop one to UK or UF. But y’all are blind if you don’t see how good this UGA team is. History has no bearing whatsoever on how this UGA handles their business going forward. Their OC (Monken) is **** good. They are beating the crap out of teams with a walk on QB and a banged up WR corps.

Offense will fail them in the end.

 

[Biggen]

Offense will fail them in the end.

Maybe. They are scoring about 35 or more a game though sans the opener. That means another offense is gonna have to score at least that much to beat them. What offense is gonna manage that against their D? I don’t see it. And they are getting starters back too now that they are healing up.

I guess we will find out…

 

[South AfriCane]

God help us all if UGA wins the title...

I still don’t believe it, I don’t think they’re going to go undefeated all year & I definitely don’t see them winning the Natty.

The best thing that could happen to college football for this year would be if Oklahoma found a way to pull it off, but the absolute worst case scenario would be UGA winning it.

UGA has had the yips for decades now. All the talent and S&C in the world can’t overcome the mental part of the game. I’m REALLY hoping that continues.

 

[mdpcane]

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Georgia dumped over $200,000,000 into their football program three years ago; their alum-funded "Do More" campaign put into place to help them gain on Alabama. Over the three prior years, the Dawgs also spent an NCAA-most $7,000,000 on recruiting—while paying their coaching staff a combined $13,000,000 annually. Money was dumped into locker rooms, stadium upgrades, recruiting lounges—you name it. They had something like 1,200 new sign-ups for their Magill Society (the year the lost to Bama in title game) which is an alum group with a minimum donation of $25,000.

I wrote about it years back, a deeper dive on a piece Mark Schlabach wrote about the upgrades — https://itsauthing.com/miami-hurric...society-kirby-smart-uga-200-million-invetment


Georgia is in a completely different stratosphere than Miami—and it shouldn't come as a shock to any why they are now the #1 team in the country; a quest that started FIVE YEARS AGO when they drove off Mark Richt and brought in Kirby Smart—proving what takes to succeed at the highest level.

It also shows that kids aren't arbitrarily leaving Miami for the likes of Athens or Tuscaloosa—as both Alabama and Georgia spend HUGE dollars to recurring the South Florida area and have upgraded facilities to lure the best talent in.

These guys are playing chess; UM has an old Chutes & Ladders board missing half the f**king pieces.

 

[GojiraCane]

They have been recruiting Monstars.. specially and cleverly at the lines.. lord their OL is a thing of beauty

I agree with Crib.. it is now or never for those mofos

Hopefully never.

 

[gogeta4]

Georgia dumped over $200,000,000 into their football program three years ago; their alum-funded "Do More" campaign put into place to help them gain on Alabama. Over the three prior years, the Dawgs also spent an NCAA-most $7,000,000 on recruiting—while paying their coaching staff a combined $13,000,000 annually. Money was dumped into locker rooms, stadium upgrades, recruiting lounges—you name it. They had something like 1,200 new sign-ups for their Magill Society (the year the lost to Bama in title game) which is an alum group with a minimum donation of $25,000.

I wrote about it years back, a deeper dive on a piece Mark Schlabach wrote about the upgrades — https://itsauthing.com/miami-hurric...society-kirby-smart-uga-200-million-invetment


Georgia is in a completely different stratosphere than Miami—and it shouldn't come as a shock to any why they are now the #1 team in the country; a quest that started FIVE YEARS AGO when they drove off Mark Richt and brought in Kirby Smart—proving what takes to succeed at the highest level.

It also shows that kids aren't arbitrarily leaving Miami for the likes of Athens or Tuscaloosa—as both Alabama and Georgia spend HUGE dollars to recurring the South Florida area and have upgraded facilities to lure the best talent in.

These guys are playing chess; UM has an old Chutes & Ladders board missing half the f**king pieces.

what do they have to show for it?.

 

[South AfriCane]

Georgia dumped over $200,000,000 into their football program three years ago; their alum-funded "Do More" campaign put into place to help them gain on Alabama. Over the three prior years, the Dawgs also spent an NCAA-most $7,000,000 on recruiting—while paying their coaching staff a combined $13,000,000 annually. Money was dumped into locker rooms, stadium upgrades, recruiting lounges—you name it. They had something like 1,200 new sign-ups for their Magill Society (the year the lost to Bama in title game) which is an alum group with a minimum donation of $25,000.

I wrote about it years back, a deeper dive on a piece Mark Schlabach wrote about the upgrades — https://itsauthing.com/miami-hurric...society-kirby-smart-uga-200-million-invetment


Georgia is in a completely different stratosphere than Miami—and it shouldn't come as a shock to any why they are now the #1 team in the country; a quest that started FIVE YEARS AGO when they drove off Mark Richt and brought in Kirby Smart—proving what takes to succeed at the highest level.

It also shows that kids aren't arbitrarily leaving Miami for the likes of Athens or Tuscaloosa—as both Alabama and Georgia spend HUGE dollars to recurring the South Florida area and have upgraded facilities to lure the best talent in.

These guys are playing chess; UM has an old Chutes & Ladders board missing half the f**king pieces.

I am confused about the point of your post. Are you highlighting UGA's investment in football to criticize UM or to show how the odds are stacked against us?

 

[Biggen]

what do they have to show for it?.

Two division titles, a SEC a championship, and a Rose Bowl win.

Will UGA win it all this year? Who knows. But this team looks the part. It’s not like they are getting fluky wins with last second field goals or trick plays. They are smoking everyone and in cruise control by the 3rd quarter of every game.

Lots of football left to play. But they pass the eye test.

 

[Torocane]

Not true.

LSU forever has dudes go to the combine lookin like sh*t.

UGA and Bama run hybrid 3-4 schemes....THEY RECRUIT BIGGER PLAYERS.

I dont know what so hard to realize that they are bigger...they recruit for it in their scheme on defense.

On offense they recruit bigger OL as well...(Bama and UGA usually have some huge guys coming in)...


Its not even fair to ocmpare the trenches when we are honestly doing different things defensively. I mean we play guys at 270 at DT....they recruit 330-340 pd incoming freshman at dt...UF signed a 400 pounder last class.

I dont want UGA as a barometer for anything since they havent won anything worth a sh*t since ive been alive

That DT GA has #99 would be dominant in any scheme.
Not disagreeing with you. Different topic obviously.