Since we are doing a thorough OC search why not have some NFL candidates?

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With new names or at least candidates outside of Fedora and Applewhite coming into the fray as possible OC why not also take a look at a few candidates from modern offenses in the NFL. If we are truly conducting a thorough search to find an OC with a modern offense then we should search not just in college but also the NFL.

With teams like the Chiefs, Rams, Saints, and Eagles all running modern offenses, why not see if there any candidates on their staff who would bring some modernization to our offense. Of course it goes without saying that we probably wouldn't be getting an OC from one of these teams to come here and be an OC but why not look at QB coach or offensive assistant who has had previous experience as a play caller. And before all the pessimist say you can't hire someone without an extensive history of calling plays look no further than the best offensive in the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy. Most of us would kill for that offense or him as a coordinator but what people don't look at is was only the OC for the University of Colorado from 2011-2012 and only called plays for that 1 year if at all prior to calling plays this season. Currently everyone is drooling over him despite the lack of an extensive history or calling plays. My point is innovation and organization can produce results regardless of experience. Sean McVay is another coach he defied the odds of experience and shown that his brilliance can make up for the deficiencies of long time coaching experience.

I am not saying we shouldn't hire someone with college OC experience either, I am just saying that Manny should at least take a look and interview a few of the candidate below and see if they blow him away with their details and plan the way he did with our Administration.

----- Kansas City QuarterbacksMike Kafka (Played the QB position has no prior play calling experience but obviously this has worked in Kansas City and in particular under Andy Reid think Doug Pederson little experience calling plays under Reid. Admit would have to show Sean McVay type qualities with him being such a young coach)

----- Los Angeles Rams Senior offensive assistant Jedd Fisch (obviously a retread but has experience calling plays and has to have learned from his time with the Rams)

----- New Orleans Saints Offensive coordinator – Pete Carmichael (Long time Saints staffer has to know Sean Payton's system in and out)
----- New Orleans Saints Offensive coordinator Quarterbacks – Joe Lombardi (OC experience)


----- Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator – Mike Groh (Prior OC experience and college coaching experience)
----- Philadelphia Eagles Quarterbacks – Press Taylor (Another that would have to show Sean McVay type qualities with him being such a young coach)
 
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With new names or at least candidates outside of Fedora and Applewhite coming into the fray as possible OC why not also take a look at a few candidates from modern offenses in the NFL. If we are truly conducting a thorough search to find an OC with a modern offense then we should search not just in college but also the NFL.

With teams like the Chiefs, Rams, Saints, and Eagles all running modern offenses, why not see if there any candidates on their staff who would bring some modernization to our offense. Of course it goes without saying that we probably wouldn't be getting an OC from one of these teams to come here and be an OC but why not look at QB coach or offensive assistant who has had previous experience as a play caller. And before all the pessimist say you can't hire someone without an extensive history of calling plays look no further than the best offensive in the NFL, the Kansas City Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy. Most of us would kill for that offense or him as a coordinator but what people don't look at is was only the OC for the University of Colorado from 2011-2012 and only called plays for that 1 year if at all prior to calling plays this season. Currently everyone is drooling over him despite the lack of an extensive history or calling plays. My point is innovation and organization can produce results regardless of experience. Sean McVay is another coach he defied the odds of experience and shown that his brilliance can make up for the deficiencies of long time coaching experience.

I am not saying we shouldn't hire someone with college OC experience either, I am just saying that Manny should at least take a look and interview a few of the candidate below and see if they blow him away with their details and plan the way he did with our Administration.

----- Kansas City QuarterbacksMike Kafka (Played the QB position has no prior play calling experience but obviously this has worked in Kansas City and in particular under Andy Reid think Doug Pederson little experience calling plays under Reid. Admit would have to show Sean McVay type qualities with him being such a young coach)

----- Los Angeles Rams Senior offensive assistant Jedd Fisch (obviously a retread but has experience calling plays and has to have learned from his time with the Rams)

----- New Orleans Saints Offensive coordinator – Pete Carmichael (Long time Saints staffer has to know Sean Payton's system in and out)
----- New Orleans Saints Offensive coordinator Quarterbacks – Joe Lombardi (OC experience)


----- Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator – Mike Groh (Prior OC experience and college coaching experience)
----- Philadelphia Eagles Quarterbacks – Press Taylor (Another that would have to show Sean McVay type qualities with him being such a young coach)


**** MIKE GROH.
Take it from an Eagles fan. Mfer admitted he doesn't know how to use Golden Tate!!! 😂😂😂😂 Mark Deflippo was the real mastermind behind Carson Wentz. And Doug's surprising killer instincts as a coach.
 
If we hired Kafka, we would see a complete offensive Metamorphosis.
I personally like Kafka. I remember him. Good kid from Northwestern. Would do wonders with the offense. Could make any of our headaches at QB legit. Andy bought him in like he did Dougie P, but Mike is a young up and come IN THE NFL. Doubt he goes college ranks. He's gonna be a head coach in the league in 5 to 10 years.
 
Seems to me that every one of those guys probably has NFL head coaching aspirations. Why would they step down to college?

Also, I think fans make mistakes when they assume that coaches are only working off of the lists that end up making the rounds in the media. We have zero idea if Manny has tried to back channel through agents, etc with NFL guys and been told to **** off, told that they can't talk until after the playoffs, etc. The NFL calendar and the college calendar aren't exactly aligned.
 
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I personally like Kafka. I remember him. Good kid from Northwestern. Would do wonders with the offense. Could make any of our headaches at QB legit. Andy bought him in like he did Dougie P, but Mike is a young up and come IN THE NFL. Doubt he goes college ranks. He's gonna be a head coach in the league in 5 to 10 years.


If he was offered the OC position I don’t see why he would turn it down he is only a QB coach right now. It’s the next step in becoming a HC. He could always go back to the league after helping us kill it here.
 
**** nah, give me a college guy

Why? I will take the guy that knows football any day college or pro. We get to stuck on it can only work one way which is not true. To truly conduct a thourough search all options should be on the table.
 
Guys who run complex NFL schemes (both offensively and defensively) often fail at the college level because they’re dealing with kids and limited practice hours.

There just isn’t enough time to implement all of the plays, checks, sight adjustments, etc...

That isn’t to say an NFL guy can’t work, but don’t expect to pluck a guy of the Rams’ staff and watch him score 40 game in college.
 
Fisch!!! We were all ****ed when he left. He turned Jacory into a decent QB. Those recivers were wide open constantly. Just make sure he doesnt do yor QB evals. Hel be cheaper then Fedora. Get him and break the bank to bring Stoutland back.
 
Seems to me that every one of those guys probably has NFL head coaching aspirations. Why would they step down to college?

Also, I think fans make mistakes when they assume that coaches are only working off of the lists that end up making the rounds in the media. We have zero idea if Manny has tried to back channel through agents, etc with NFL guys and been told to **** off, told that they can't tlak until aftr the playoffs, etc. The NFL calendar and the college calendar aren't exactly aligned.

And how do we know this? You are doing exactly what you said fans make the mistake of doing assume. Also I guess Lincoln Riley or Kliff Kingsbury has aspirations of being a HC in the NFL one day as well since their names keep coming up, but hey that didn’t stop Riley from being OU’s head coach for the time being.
 
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CoAches from those offenses are on a fast track to OC jobs in the nfl

But they don’t have the OC title now, so how do we know they wouldn’t be interested. It’s not like you can’t have success as a college OC then jump back to the NFL. Nothing is guaranteed what will happen down the road when you can take the job title now
 
Why? I will take the guy that knows football any day college or pro. We get to stuck on it can only work one way which is not true. To truly conduct a thourough search all options should be on the table.
Alot of these guys in the nfl and in college are part of a clique, its why when they get these jobs they do terrible. Its like they never earned it and to me its too risky u need someone who understand college and what goes on in the backrounds aka recruiting.
 
Every "innovative" mind in the NFL is just copying what college guys have been doing for years anyway. Besides, I doubt a coveted NFL coordinator is going to take a demotion to a college coordinator position.
 
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