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Coach Macho said:
More high completion percentages given up by our defense. Love to see it. 🙄
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Since Manny got here this is where we've ranked in opponents completion percentage 63, 43, 11, 20, 83

The year before he got here we were 84th. So we're almost where he ended under Golden and D'Onofrio. Gotta hope '20 was an outlier season and yet another reason to be glad Baker is gone.
 
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pacusmc said:
This!!
Does anyone on here ever read? Didn’t Mathew or someone on this site wright an article about George and the things that that the dude at Goldfeet said about him. That guy coaches everyone and he said George was the best receiver in Florida and probably the country.
Maybe people thought he was saying that like a high school coach talks about his players. But there is no way that dude would put his reputation on the line by making that statement. He literally has no reason to say that unless he believed it.
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Yep. Once I heard GoldFeet make that statement, that confirmed how much of a dog George is.
 
Coach Macho said:
Here's what boggles my mind...

We have basically three useful Quarterbacks on the roster right now. And since spring practice, not a SINGLE ONE of them has had a mediocre or even "average" day versus our defense in a scrimmage. They've ALL had high completion percentages and several WR's have GONE OFF versus our defense, and it doesn't matter what unit defense they're facing either.

So exactly WTF are we doing on defense to make things so comfortable for quarterbacks? (rhetorical question because I already know the answer)

And you can miss me with the "it's only practice" BS.
Even against your own team, you go out there and try to "win the day" every practice.

So either the talent on offense versus defense is very lopsided...
Or the talent at coordinator is lopsided.

My main issue with this is, if we're not challenging our own offense in practice then they are going to be in for a shock when they start the season. (i.e when they start seeing tighter coverages)
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Help me understand what we are doing on defense to make our QB’s comfortable. Are you saying they’re not playing hard on D like on the DL?

Maybe our OL is much better than the DL???
 
How can anyone complaint with so little public facts?

We only know King was 12/16. No completion % from the others QBs.

We dont know how the teams were matched up. 1s v 1s? 1s v 2s? etc.

Also, playing QB knowing you're not getting hit will always give an advantage to the offense. Furthermore, in the spring, there was MANY "Sacks" that werent called, but instead they allowed the play to go on, simply bc it makes more sense to finish the play than call a close sack.

Point is, King going 12/16 doesn't really tell us anything.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
How can anyone complaint with so little public facts?

We only know King was 12/16. No completion % from the others QBs.

We dont know how the teams were matched up. 1s v 1s? 1s v 2s? etc.

Also, playing QB knowing you're not getting hit will always give an advantage to the offense. Furthermore, in the spring, there was MANY "Sacks" that werent called, but instead they allowed the play to go on, simply bc it makes more sense to finish the play than call a close sack.

Point is, King going 12/16 doesn't really tell us anything.
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Too bad my statement wasn't based on just King. This has been going on since spring. All three quarterbacks have looked good.

This is what kills me about some of y'all on here. You guys will read a hundred word post and find one little thing you can contradict. Did you not read my entire post about all three quarterbacks having high completion percentages since the spring?

So either we have the most elite and reliable QB room in college football or we're giving up everything underneath on defense. I'll go with the latter.
 
RVACane said:
Help me understand what we are doing on defense to make our QB’s comfortable. Are you saying they’re not playing hard on D like on the DL?

Maybe our OL is much better than the DL???
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First and foremost, too much off coverage and uncontested throws. Quarterbacks are able to steal everything they want underneath. We make no effort to take away the easy throws.
 
And this is why our offense is going to **** down their leg during the season when someone challenges them on defense.

When they get pattern-match or man coverage they're likely going to struggle.

Not everybody we play is going to give our offense easy 7-yard completions all the way down the field like our defense does in practice.
 
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Coach Macho said:
And this is why our offense is going to **** down their leg during the season when someone challenges them on defense.

When they get pattern-match or man coverage they're likely going to struggle.

Not everybody we play is going to give our offense easy 7-yard completions all the way down the field like our defense does in practice.
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Add to it that we don’t have multiple draft picks up front this year and…
 
I don't know how the scrimmage went but i know one thing. James Williams is a big Dude and whatever he weigh.....Stevenson looked bigger than him to me.
 
Coach Macho said:
First and foremost, too much off coverage and uncontested throws. Quarterbacks are able to steal everything they want underneath. We make no effort to take away the easy throws.
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Really can't see this happening with Trob. It's the exact opposite of his coaching Philosophy.

I mean it's still Mannys defense so it probably will but that means we won't have Trob after this year.
 
Canezum5 said:
@Page305 as many 4 star JAGS and busts we've witnessed as Cane fans it actually means something when you can call out one of them being a good at the collegiate level. Half these guys were eating Pope's meet only for him to stink it up.

Now it's "oh you called a 4 star being good"

Boy stfu
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Exactly man! What you just said is 100% accurate. Back to this scrimmage tho.... Hopefully the younger guys can keep this momentum. Brinson, Smith, George.... Man that's TOOO much talent to keep on the sidelines.
 
Knew it... first scrimmage and already there are complaints.

No one in here was able to see the scrimmage, the plays, who played against who, etc. etc. etc., yet the blame is put on the defense already based off of completion percentages.

If King gets picked off twice in the next scrimmage and has 50% comp pct, whats the story then? Our offense is sorry and sucks?
 
Coach Macho said:
Too bad my statement wasn't based on just King. This has been going on since spring. All three quarterbacks have looked good.

This is what kills me about some of y'all on here. You guys will read a hundred word post and find one little thing you can contradict. Did you not read my entire post about all three quarterbacks having high completion percentages since the spring?

So either we have the most elite and reliable QB room in college football or we're giving up everything underneath on defense. I'll go with the latter.
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We don't know how they looked we're just getting numbers. We saw them in the spring game and they looked ok while benefiting from no sacks being called and working without having to rush throws because they couldn't get hit. We do know that 3 of the top 4 CBs missed time this spring and I believe 2 of those three each missed every scrimmage/spring game. Clarke, Couch and Blades all missed the spring game at a minimum. Balom and Bolden did too. A depleted secondary throughout spring could've helped those percentages.

What he saw in the spring game from the top 2 CBs was a lot of man press on the first drive and the defense looked better throughout the spring game just lining up like that. The problems for the most part were in soft zone where they gave free yards in the flats or let Lashlee flood a zone and a WR would get open deep. With a healthy top 4 of Ivey, Stevenson, Couch and Blades you'd hope they lean on the press man and actually play a 3rd CB all the time in the slot instead of having Hall or Kitchens play slot WRs like they did the spring game. Stevenson has said he's playing outside and slot. He would give them more size to defend runs out of three WR sets.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Too bad my statement wasn't based on just King. This has been going on since spring. All three quarterbacks have looked good.

This is what kills me about some of y'all on here. You guys will read a hundred word post and find one little thing you can contradict. Did you not read my entire post about all three quarterbacks having high completion percentages since the spring?

So either we have the most elite and reliable QB room in college football or we're giving up everything underneath on defense. I'll go with the latter.
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All 3 QBs have looked good in the limited amount we've gotten to see, against a team that has a lot of DBs out, in a setting where DL pressure basically isn't allowed.... and maybe we just have good qbs and a good offense finally? Complaining that our starting Qb who is getting some heisman love had 75% Comp% in a scrimmage likely against our 2nd string defense is just lame.

Our pass defense has usually been pretty good under Diaz, and obviously the amount of Havoc we create is very high in his scheme. So I'll tell ya what if we get a 10 yard sack on 1st down and they want to pass short for 5 yards each on 2nd and 3rd down, I'm letting them have that all day. Idgaf if the Qbs completion% is 100% for 10 yards on a drive they needed 20 to get the first...
 
fincane said:
Since Manny got here this is where we've ranked in opponents completion percentage 63, 43, 11, 20, 83

The year before he got here we were 84th. So we're almost where he ended under Golden and D'Onofrio. Gotta hope '20 was an outlier season and yet another reason to be glad Baker is gone.
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I really hope we stop doing that soft *** zone ****. I’m with you I’m hoping that was more baker than manny.
 
Coach Macho said:
First and foremost, too much off coverage and uncontested throws. Quarterbacks are able to steal everything they want underneath. We make no effort to take away the easy throws.
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Respectfully this is 100% fact. It’s the way we’re built and I don’t see it changing. It’s why Pittsburgh is as dangerous on our schedule as Alabama.
 
Boarcane said:
Respectfully this is 100% fact. It’s the way we’re built and I don’t see it changing. It’s why Pittsburgh is as dangerous on our schedule as Alabama.
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Let’s not get caught in the Black Hole here either. If the QB stats had read that the QBs were a combined 10/35 then what would the narrative be? That the WRs are having a tough time either catching the ball or getting open and people would be drawing up conclusions on if we have solved that problem since it was an issue last year too against really good teams.
 
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