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TOcane said:
Why would Trob affect a mindset when he was worse as a DC? I hope they play more man because the CBS are better. No sense in doing it if they can’t. Trob is great as a teacher and recruiter, but the truth is Manny has a better resume as a DC. It either works or it doesn’t I think he is trying to get the horses to run and then you can switch things up accordingly. I really don’t know much I’m a 5’9” white guy but it just makes common sense.
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I just want to see our corners play more press man and not concede 5-7 yard pass plays so easily due to the soft zone
 
Coach Macho said:
Truthfully we don't even play any formidable offensive opponents.
The same Louisville team that anally raped our defense got their **** pushed in by Pitt the following week.
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Canes1968 said:
For Manny's style of defense, scrimmages don't play to the defense's advantage. His defense is predicated on getting to the quarterback and hitting him, causing havoc in the backfield. You can't do that in scrimmages, AND they don't blow these plays dead very aggressively in scrimmages when the QB would have otherwise been hit and sacked. Freaking out about scrimmages is just plain dumb. The only thing that matters about scrimmages is that we come out with no injuries. That's it and that's all.
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JESUS
 
HighSeas said:
Relying on talent and disruption is a high-variance strategy both game to game and year over year.

No scheme has the answers to everything but how you choose to fit runs (including fronts and alignment) and how you defend space in the pass game (including safety looks) determines what an offense can and cannot attack. People like @Coach Macho complain about Diaz's scheme because it's unsound.

Now that doesn't mean it can't work. If Miami's front improves to where they aren't getting gashed by the run and they play more 2-deep man coverage with big physical press corners it could be an elite defense. But again that's entirely dependent on talent transcending and I still have major doubts about them stopping an RPO superspread offense with diverse run concepts like UNC.
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This. Macho's critique is relevant, needed and welcomed (coaching accountability). A couple good counterpoints made as well. Good reading imo.
 
Coach Macho said:
Now find the part where I said we have too much complexity on defense and we ask our defensive players to do things that aren't conducive to their/our success. (such as 3-4 2-gapping up front)

Yall picking the good things I said about D'Onofrio and leaving out the negatives.
The dude is smart, but I said his scheme doesn't fit here and his ability to 'apply' what he knows may be lacking.
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Look, I like reading your posts and agree to a certain extent on a lot of it. The point is you cut NoD a lot of slack. Its pretty clear Manny's defenses have been an improvement yet you don't offer the same type of balanced analysis.

You complain about people being unable to see anything negative towards the staff but your doing the same thing except in opposite. Im guessing the bias is because NoD took 3 hrs to sit with you while this staff didnt even know who you were (hoping I got that right, going on memory). Eh whatever, thats human nature but at least be self aware enough to see it before lashing out at others.

Regardless of his on field results that NoD post was absolutely awesome. It offered great insight backed up by relevant analysis that not many could offer. You also gave both the pros and the cons. Would love to see more of that stuff
 
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Warrior808 said:
Look, I like reading your posts and agree to a certain extend on a lot of it. The point is you cut NoD a lot of slack. Its pretty clear Manny's defenses have been an improvement yet you don't offer the same type of balanced analysis.

You complain about people being unable to see anything negative towards the staff but your doing the same thing except in opposite. Im guessing the bias is because NoD took 3 hrs to sit with you while this staff didnt even know who you were (hoping I got that right, going on memory). Eh whatever, thats human nature but at least be self aware enough to see it before lashing out at others.
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Yeah I usually ride with Macho but hes gotta stand on the fact that Dnofrios defense hasnt worked anywhere (Houston fired him after one season) and that he is absolutely not a smart guy as it pertains to being a DC. Now maybe he can destroy every DC in the country in a spelling contest but he **** sure cant call a defense to save his life. Dno is not in Mannys league re being a DC at least at UM.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Okay. Tell our QB @ Deerfield about this advantage and see what he tells you. He's gonna look at you like you're crazy. He's not seeing any of those "advantages" in practice right now.

Live or unlive bullets, that doesn't change what's happening on the back-end of the defense. Guys are open.
And spread passing games run on timing, so just because the bullets aren't "live", doesn't mean the timing of the passing game changes. This isn't 1994 where QB's take 7-step drops and go through progressions.

A logical excuse for WR's getting open can be lack of pass rush resulting in long/drawn-out routes that become open.
That's a weakness of zone, but if you're running pattern-match zone that turns into 'man' coverage after route distribution then this seldom happens.
(and that's not what's happening here anyway)

And for the 37th time...
Yall act like this doesn't happen in real games! lol
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Miami has had good defenses in the past. In those years, did the defense dominate the offense in scrimmages or vice versa?

If anyone can remember, there’s your answer.

I want to say the defense used to win the scrimmages more often than not when our D was dominant, but don’t fully recall.
 
Manny's defense in 2017 was just short of being great. They were really good. Linebackers is problem because of Manny's recruiting skills not because of his defense philosophy. I can guarantee if Travis Williams were here our LB recruiting class would be looking different. With a great offense and Manny's defensive scheme we can contend, his defense isn't bad neither is it really good. Also, I'll give Manny benefit of the doubt, he had some bad players last year. There isn't one player on defense this year that will be to be a Top 3rd round pick, maybe TS and that's a big maybe. His next Gregory Roussau is Chase Smith.
 
The offense is literally the most experienced offense of any P5 school. Literally. With every single position coach back, the coordinator back, and a Top 10 QB nationally, at worst. There's no reason for the offense to be behind the defense at this point, like it normally is this early in camp. It's the same **** team with Charleston Rambo thrown into the mix. If it weren't humming already, I'd be very concerned.
 
Strength of schedule last year was 50th. These defensive numbers need to improve this year especially the passing completions & first downs allowed with Manny. The linebacker weakness is is especially glaring (I know we don’t play a 4-3).

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Our leading LB tackler is Jennings with 39. Carter with all of his ejections for targeting, etc is the 2nd leading tackler 😂😂

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954_DRC said:
Manny's defense in 2017 was just short of being great. They were really good. Linebackers is problem because of Manny's recruiting skills not because of his defense philosophy. I can guarantee if Travis Williams were here our LB recruiting class would be looking different. With a great offense and Manny's defensive scheme we can contend, his defense isn't bad neither is it really good. Also, I'll give Manny benefit of the doubt, he had some bad players last year. There isn't one player on defense this year that will be to be a Top 3rd round pick, maybe TS and that's a big maybe. His next Gregory Roussau is Chase Smith.
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The 2017 and 2018 defenses were **** good. Good enough to be 10-11 win teams..(which the 2017 team was at 10-3) Both top 10 defenses pound for pound in the country. People wont remember it because they werent championship teams especially the 2018 defense that probably had the 2nd worst offense in the modern era of UM football. (2019 offense being #1)
 
Umbra said:
I think it's a different game nowadays that emphasizes and favors offense much more than 2001. It would be more accurate to look at the Clemson/Bama teams the last few seasons and see how they felt about Offense versus Defense in their scrimmages.
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The more it changes, the more it stays the same. It’s still a game of the team that gives up the fewest points, usually wins.
 
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Umbra said:
I think it's a different game nowadays that emphasizes and favors offense much more than 2001. It would be more accurate to look at the Clemson/Bama teams the last few seasons and see how they felt about Offense versus Defense in their scrimmages.
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Both Bama and Clemson are very happy with their offense paired with their championship defense.

You can look at the last Lincoln Riley’s high octane offense last won a natty.
 
RightSaidFred said:
Miami has had good defenses in the past. In those years, did the defense dominate the offense in scrimmages or vice versa?

If anyone can remember, there’s your answer.

I want to say the defense used to win the scrimmages more often than not when our D was dominant, but don’t fully recall.
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They usually used to “win” the early scrimmages even when they weren’t dominant. The offense typically takes more time to gell.
 
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