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SinisterCane said:
Sideline Corchin' is hella cheeks
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Timeout strats yes but all thing look better with better players. And we will see those stupid posts "why didn't we see these plays last year" then everyone has to be told we didn't have the players or QB to run that. Or the "Mario finally took the leash off Dawson" I can see these posts dominate the whole season already.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Timeout strats yes but all thing look better with better players. And we will see those stupid posts "why didn't we see these plays last year" then everyone has to be told we didn't have the players or QB to run that. Or the "Mario finally took the leash off Dawson" I can see these posts dominate the whole season already.
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Started after A&M last year
 
Dwinstitles said:
You ask him to gtfo then our roster becomes hella cheeks. Not saying you don’t have a point but be ready for ultra misery for years to come if he fails.
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If you can't win the ACC with the roster you created, what good are you? Now I agree with you. I don't want the talent to go elsewhere. However, at what point do recruits start saying, "What's the point of playing for Mario? He gets us there, but then doesn't put us in position to make plays."


Winning is more important than just roster building. Eventually recruits get tired of promises of winning. Promises of being developed into first rounders. Let's face it, winning gets kids drafted higher. If Mario fails to win this year, with an all world QB, and stacked talent on O, when will he? It's a real problem, IF he doesn't win this year.

Now, if we somehow go undefeated, then lose the ACC title game, thus not winning the ACC, I'd call that a giant step forward. Going 9-3, with this talent and schedule, would be a huge failure.

In year 3, I expect a big jump. Not just winning games, but putting teams away that should never hang around. This is a huge flaw in Mario's game so far. Too many teams hang around for far too long, thus making every game one screwup day from a big, fat, stinking L. See GT.

We'll know who we are pretty early in the 2024 season. Here's hoping this is the season we play for a title of some kind other than another offseason crown.
 
ThomasM said:
If you can't win the ACC with the roster you created, what good are you? Now I agree with you. I don't want the talent to go elsewhere. However, at what point do recruits start saying, "What's the point of playing for Mario? He gets us there, but then doesn't put us in position to make plays."


Winning is more important than just roster building. Eventually recruits get tired of promises of winning. Promises of being developed into first rounders. Let's face it, winning gets kids drafted higher. If Mario fails to win this year, with an all world QB, and stacked talent on O, when will he? It's a real problem, IF he doesn't win this year.

Now, if we somehow go undefeated, then lose the ACC title game, thus not winning the ACC, I'd call that a giant step forward. Going 9-3, with this talent and schedule, would be a huge failure.

In year 3, I expect a big jump. Not just winning games, but putting teams away that should never hang around. This is a huge flaw in Mario's game so far. Too many teams hang around for far too long, thus making every game one screwup day from a big, fat, stinking L. See GT.

We'll know who we are pretty early in the 2024 season. Here's hoping this is the season we play for a title of some kind other than another offseason crown.
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That talent has to get older and then the new talent three seasons in has to push the misses out. Once you get that machine going trust me it will look crazy and it will be fixed. Need time with this build especially with the state the program was in.
 
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ThomasM said:
If you can't win the ACC with the roster you created, what good are you? Now I agree with you. I don't want the talent to go elsewhere. However, at what point do recruits start saying, "What's the point of playing for Mario? He gets us there, but then doesn't put us in position to make plays."


Winning is more important than just roster building. Eventually recruits get tired of promises of winning. Promises of being developed into first rounders. Let's face it, winning gets kids drafted higher. If Mario fails to win this year, with an all world QB, and stacked talent on O, when will he? It's a real problem, IF he doesn't win this year.

Now, if we somehow go undefeated, then lose the ACC title game, thus not winning the ACC, I'd call that a giant step forward. Going 9-3, with this talent and schedule, would be a huge failure.

In year 3, I expect a big jump. Not just winning games, but putting teams away that should never hang around. This is a huge flaw in Mario's game so far. Too many teams hang around for far too long, thus making every game one screwup day from a big, fat, stinking L. See GT.

We'll know who we are pretty early in the 2024 season. Here's hoping this is the season we play for a title of some kind other than another offseason crown.
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I agree I want to see the 2024 canes beheading people, take it to the next level.
 
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Dwinstitles said:
That talent has to get older and then the new talent three seasons in has to push the misses out. Once you get that machine going trust me it will look crazy and it will be fixed. Need time with this build especially with the state the program was in.
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The talent he's stacking right now is pretty sick.... Have to win though to keep the flow strong.... God forbid we get close to the playoffs or even in and we're talking a whole new level up process.... This year has to be impactful... no stupid letdowns....
 
Dwinstitles said:
U cant recruit just fine without him that's the myth ya'll got going on. He attracts the talent. This is pointless anyway after this season when we smack teams. And those coaches that recruit like this are all unavailable which UF will find out when they start searching next season, unless they get Urban. And Manny cannot recruit stop it
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Myth, please.

We were never a recruiting giant. Even at the height of our power, we weren't near the top of the recruiting lists and yes, that was a different era.

Schools back the were taking care of players better than we were in most cases, in all kinds of ways. We did it different, with coaches that could win with coaching it their way and they built us into a monster.

****, no bull****, but the guy before him didn't get the financial support we have going now and guess what, he didn't suck on the field as much either. He didn't recruit this high either, it isn't some mystery why that is. It can't be all one way and again, yes, he deserved to be fired.

If the money is there, you have no excuse not to have results. Last year the roster was largely his, it was cheeks too. There are no excuses this year, get it done or your seat is hot as ****. He's got this year and next IMO to show major progress. None of which erases his embarrassement of the two prior years.

As for who is or isn't available, there's always someone available for 8 mil a year. That's top 20 pay and there's coaches not in that pay zone making those rankings. You just gotta find them, most don't. Most don't have our NIL program either.
 
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Beating FSU is a must....

Would hate going in with the same record as Clemson.. Would guess we lose the tie breaker...
 
TheEye said:
Fun fact. We are competing against schools who also have NIL money. If your HC can’t evaluate or recruit you are SOL.
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If your hc can't put a prepared product on the field on Saturdays with a game plan specific for every opponent your screwed. If your coach can't get coordinators who can put players in then proper schemes to win games you will continue to be mid even with better talent than your opponents. Coaching and development are King.
 
HardCane said:
If your hc can't put a prepared product on the field on Saturdays with a game plan specific for every opponent your screwed. If your coach can't get coordinators who can put players in then proper schemes to win games you will continue to be mid even with better talent than your opponents. Coaching and development are King.
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Apparently he somehow won at Oregon.
 
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WinifredPayne said:
I think its incorrect to think any coach would run the program internally as good as it seems it is being ran. I am only on the outside looking in. You can have great NIL backing but other things not be up to par. I think Mario is best I have seen so far here. He has faults no doubt as do most. But Mario needs to win in 2024.
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Internally running a program produces results, we've been shortchanged and underperforming since day one of his tenure. We've been a paper tiger so far, does that change this year?

When some guy who looked like a cowboy more than a coach came to town, people said WTF more or less. Nobody thought that hair obsessed man from OK State would do a **** thing here, he proved all wrong. The list goes on, there wasn't NIL, but these former coaches won upstairs, by being brilliant at their job.

There's still coaches out there like that. Give them the reigns if Mario fails, support them the same way, you'll get results.

Everyone on this board went from he's worth an extra 2 or 3 wins to this is going to take forever, needs all this time, and be patient. He's come in looking like the worst game day coach we've possible ever had. We've looked sloppy and undisciplined the entire way, that's not internally promising.

You can flip talent quicker now than ever. There wasn't an excuse last year, there isn't one this year. He got bent over backwards by the past Duke coach and there's no comparison of financial backing or roster.

Kind of done taking about Mario if I'm honest. It's time to put up or shut up. All flash an no substance to this point. He's looked downright lost at times so far after a game, no solutions to be had. All the while he's getting paid far more than anyone ever before all while it's legal to pay for players. This merc team of ours better get it done or kids will quit falling for it, no matter how much you offer to pay.
 
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TheEye said:
Apparently he somehow won at Oregon.
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Nuttered Herbert but Herbert was still good enough to make plays when he got the opportunities. Trying to pound the ball and play defense without a qb or well designed pass game after Herbert had its ceiling.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Timeout strats yes but all thing look better with better players. And we will see those stupid posts "why didn't we see these plays last year" then everyone has to be told we didn't have the players or QB to run that. Or the "Mario finally took the leash off Dawson" I can see these posts dominate the whole season already.
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Yes.

Taking over a team is not like buying a company. The "machinery & equipment" might run the same under new ownership, but PLAYERS are not the same.

And I'm not trying to "blame" the players Mario inherited. They just weren't HIS players. Whether they bought-in or not...or whether they were just not good fits...it still wasn't MARIO'S guys. That's a fact.
 
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