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SIAP: Behind-the-Scenes Read on TN's NIL Approach

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A good piece by The Athletic on how UT is building their NIL Infrastructure. We definitely expect Alabama, Georgia and A&M, but other schools aren't going down without a fight.

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So, if I read the FL law correctly, schools in FL are unable to do what Tennessee is doing in building up a collective of donations from everyone to help the athletes. The Tennessee Collective has a goal of $30 million per year.
 
Tony4Miami said:
So, if I read the FL law correctly, schools in FL are unable to do what Tennessee is doing in building up a collective of donations from everyone to help the athletes. The Tennessee Collective has a goal of $30 million per year.
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And this is y politics should be far away from sports, unless any constitutional laws r broken. This NIL chit is haphazardly put together & varies from state, which can & have caused inequities.
 
Rellyrell said:
And this is y parameters need to be set.
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I know the NCAA can't tell players what they can earn, but I wonder if they can put any kind of cap on the amount schools can spend.

Though.. I doubt it ever happens because it gets rid of the advantage for Emmert's precious SEC.
 
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Rellyrell said:
And this is y politics should be far away from sports, unless any constitutional laws r broken. This NIL chit is haphazardly put together & varies from state, which can & have caused inequities.
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Agreed, but the irony here is states like FL made the laws to force the NCAA to allow NIL since NCAA rules could not supersede state laws. Then when the NCAA said '**** it, just follow your states laws and if there arent any, have at it' those progressive states actually ended up hurting their schools.
 
Shogungts said:
Agreed, but the irony here is states like FL made the laws to force the NCAA to allow NIL since NCAA rules could not supersede state laws. Then when the NCAA said '**** it, just follow your states laws and if there arent any, have at it' those progressive states actually ended up hurting their schools.
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Alabama also put themselves into a legislated bind.

I suspect both will get "fixed" accordingly.

Don't be surprised if Tuscaloosa calls for an emergency session.🤣
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
I know the NCAA can't tell players what they can earn, but I wonder if they can put any kind of cap on the amount schools can spend.

Though.. I doubt it ever happens because it gets rid of the advantage for Emmert's precious SEC.
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All they have to do is put simple parameters around the NIL (which I’m sure it’s too late for now), which is if any kid gets $ from an autograph event, the student stores sell any memorabilia w/ a kid’s name, signature, photo, etc. etc. That’s all fair game. Kid is asked to be in a commercial, so be it. But to have schools openly use boosters to collectively “fund” a player to come, that’s bull chit, especially since guidelines vary from state to state.
 
Rellyrell said:
All they have to do is put simple parameters around the NIL (which I’m sure it’s too late for now), which is if any kid gets $ from an autograph event, the student stores sell any memorabilia w/ a kid’s name, signature, photo, etc. etc. That’s all fair game. Kid is asked to be in a commercial, so be it. But to have schools openly use boosters to collectively “fund” a player to come, that’s bull chit, especially since guidelines vary from state to state.
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After the messaging that came from court decisions (including a practically unheard of 9-0 Supreme Court decision), the NCAA is terrified of making any rules that might be seen as blocking student athletes from being able to make fair compensation. They are also happy that this system does not result in them having to actually pay the athletes.
 
Shogungts said:
After the messaging that came from court decisions (including a practically unheard of 9-0 Supreme Court decision), the NCAA is terrified of making any rules that might be seen as blocking student athletes from being able to make fair compensation. They are also happy that this system does not result in them having to actually pay the athletes.
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Oh yeah, totally agree. That’s y I said it’s probably too late. The chit became out of hand and now they have their heads in sand.
 
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Rellyrell said:
All they have to do is put simple parameters around the NIL (which I’m sure it’s too late for now), which is if any kid gets $ from an autograph event, the student stores sell any memorabilia w/ a kid’s name, signature, photo, etc. etc. That’s all fair game. Kid is asked to be in a commercial, so be it. But to have schools openly use boosters to collectively “fund” a player to come, that’s bull chit, especially since guidelines vary from state to state.
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It won’t matter how you write it. If you say kids can’t get paid to play but can do autographs, I’ll just have a private event where the kid gets $10,000 per autograph. Unless you limit the amount a kid can get total, it won’t matter how they get it. And if you do, they’ll just get the rest the old fashion way.
 
Shogungts said:
After the messaging that came from court decisions (including a practically unheard of 9-0 Supreme Court decision), the NCAA is terrified of making any rules that might be seen as blocking student athletes from being able to make fair compensation. They are also happy that this system does not result in them having to actually pay the athletes.
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Other than the big boys not wanting an even playing field, I don’t see why the ncaa couldn’t cap payouts. There doesn’t seem to be an issue with salary caps in other sports. In the end it won’t matter as the money always gets through, but I would think it would be leagal to set limits at least on the total amount a schools athletes can receive collectively.
 
kryptonite said:
Other than the big boys not wanting an even playing field, I don’t see why the ncaa couldn’t cap payouts. There doesn’t seem to be an issue with salary caps in other sports. In the end it won’t matter as the money always gets through, but I would think it would be leagal to set limits at least on the total amount a schools athletes can receive collectively.
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B/c in the other sports there is a collective bargaining agreement between the teams and the players. The players agree that a cap (and often minimums) make sense to keep some type of competitive balance and the sport healthy. That is often contentious enough. Now try doing that with 130 schools worth of football players and with players who are only there 4 years (so if you cant get this done in a short period, you are constantly negotiating with new people).

Also, it's not clear to me whether you could do it just at the individual sport level or if all NCAA athletes would need to agree to some type of agreement.

To be clear, I am both in the camp that athletes should be able to get some type of (significant) compensation given how much money is made in college Football/Basketball, but also think reigning this in somehow is best for everyone involved (including the athletes for the survival of the sport - especially more than a small number of teams). I imagine something will get figured out, but that it will probably be a bumpy few years.
 
wanting to give the ncaa any of its power back is laughable. set a cap so the schools that the ncaa favors can go over the cap while everyone else that goes over gets punished.
 
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