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SIAP - Athletic Article by Manny Navarro on possible QB change

He shouldn’t let home fans booing him affect him. He should keep working hard to improve his game. Now, if he is or not, that’s another story.
 
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305to954 said:
hey bruh..you can’t just come to this board and type up coherent, logical post while using empirical facts...it’s frowned open here..either fall in line and follow the sheep..or do what i do and laugh off the stupidity
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Which sheep? You mean the sheep that said Miami was gonna roll through LSU by 28+? The sheep that were hyping up Rosier in the offseason? Those sheep?
 
jsy said:
Didn’t Richt admit he told him to throw it to that player

He was just listening to his corch
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No. I believe what Richt said is that if they’re in cover 2, that man might be open. They rolled to cover 3, and Perry didn’t recognize it.

Richt took responsibility for “planting that seed.”

lol at the excuses as if Richt said, “N’kosi, I don’t care what happens. I want you to stare down that receiver and throw it to him no matter what.”
 
I think it is funny how people make up some story how Richt wants Rosier to start. This is the guy he told should leave because he will never play for Richt. His first choice last year left to be a 7th round pick and never make a team instead of playing to win a championship. Kaaya’s own words. The second option supposedly was some super Cane fan but tucked his tail and transferred away when he was about to get the starting job. After that we had all these hype pieces on here about Perry walking on water. That is because the entire staff at that point was hoping he could put it together enough to play.

At best Rosier was the 4th option and probably not even that.

Fast forward to mid season when people finally got what they wanted because “you can’t play worse” only to find out the backup is worse.

Seems like he wants someone to show they can take this starting job but nobody has shown enough yet.

I also expect that when someone does put it together they will play much better. That doesn’t mean they would play better right now.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Is that what I said? Did I say anything remotely close to that?

No.

You’re petulant children throwing online temper tantrums because you want a different QB to start. You’re balling up your hands like little children, stomping your feet, and looking for every little reason to throw a fit.

My point is this, since you obviously didn’t get it from my first post. You have lost the intellectual capacity to think straight in your never ending quest to bash. It’s one thing to criticize both him and Rick and call for change. I get that. It’s another thing to go witch hunting to find reasons to bltch, especially in this case when the guy just employed a normal defelection. You don’t want QBs to sulk, or cry, or otherwise overreact when booed.

You’re SUPPOSED to blow it off. Shake it off.

But you morons are looking for any excuse to jump in.

It’s a perverse mob mentality that cowards have when they are frustrated and don’t get their way. They see a guy getting beat up and they join in kicking the body, inventing reasons to hate the guy.

It’s just a lunatic rage without reason...but go on. Maybe you can find an article about how he wipes his ***...and get worked up about him using the wrong technique.
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No, it’s not. It’s saying if Rosier is spectacularly bad, objectively and quantifiably so (Rosier's Accuracy Numbers), it is an indictment on the coaching staff that three years into this regime, (1) we don’t have a competent option that is any better. Either that, or (2) Richt is stubbornly sticking by Rosier even though the others are better. On top of that, the guy is throwing team mates and fans under the bus saying all he has to do is “keep winning”, even though he is 1-4 in his last five games. That shows a lack of acceptance of personal responsibility and delusion which prevents addressing the fact that there is a problem. There’s nothing petulant about this.

If you want to continue this discussion, please address one of those two primary points and refrain from the emotional projection, or let’s just agree to disagree and continue to respect each other as the die hard Canes fans and intelligent posters that we are.

@Loose Cannon @OriginalCanesCanesCanes
 
Loose Cannon said:
Would you prefer him to cry? I mean, we're talking about Malik here. 8 of 12 (67%) 3 TDs and 0 INTs is a pretty **** good day for him in just over a quarter of work. I'd have been laughing at the boo birds too.
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You do realize those stats came against Savannah st.I can to every nursing home in America get person wheelchair and they're stats would be just as good.even you'd have decent stats.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
No, it’s not. It’s saying if Rosier is spectacularly bad, objectively and quantifiably so (Rosier's Accuracy Numbers), it is an indictment on the coaching staff that three years into this regime, (1) we don’t have a competent option that is any better. Either that, or (2) Richt is stubbornly sticking by Rosier even though the others are better. On top of that, the guy is throwing team mates and fans under the bus saying all he has to do is “keep winning”, even though he is 1-4 in his last five games. That shows a lack of acceptance of personal responsibility and delusion which prevents addressing the fact that there is a problem. There’s nothing petulant about this.

If you want to continue this discussion, please address one of those two primary points and refrain from the emotional projection, or let’s just agree to disagree and continue to respect each other as the die hard Canes fans and intelligent posters that we are.

@Loose Cannon @OriginalCanesCanesCanes
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I think Richt’s plan was always to roll with the experienced starter against LSU and ease the freshmen backups into action over the next 3 games to see if one can take over or be ready to take over.

To me, everyone showed something last Saturday to merit more work in more meaningful games. Getting work for those guys today is going to be less on Rosier and more on the defense. If the defense dominates like they should, I can see justification to at least get Perry in no matter what Rosier is doing. If he’s playing well, we’ll be up a few scores, and Perry can get work. If Rosier is just meh, but we’re holding on defense, bring Perry in for a series to see if we can spark the offense. If Rosier is downright awful, bring in Perry to see if we can salvage the W.

The key today is the defense playing at a very high level, so that Richt doesn’t have to feel like he’s gambling away a chance to win just for the sake of PT.

If the defense is getting shredded like last season, and Rosier is keeping us in it, nobody will play.
 
Twhizman said:
You do realize those stats came against Savannah st.I can to every nursing home in America get person wheelchair and they're stats would be just as good.even you'd have decent stats.
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I realize that those stats came against the same team everybody else played.

8 for 12, 67%, 137 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
9 for 14, 63%, 93 yds, 3 TDs, 1 INT
1 for 2, 50%
1 for 3, 33%

All of those stats came against the same team, and the bottom two came against backups. I liked what I saw from all of the backups, but I saw nothing that says one guy definitively earned the right to overthrow the starter. And I don’t believe in grading on a curve because one has experience and the others don’t.
 
Loose Cannon said:
I think Richt’s plan was always to roll with the experienced starter against LSU and ease the freshmen backups into action over the next 3 games to see if one can take over or be ready to take over.

To me, everyone showed something last Saturday to merit more work in more meaningful games. Getting work for those guys today is going to be less on Rosier and more on the defense. If the defense dominates like they should, I can see justification to at least get Perry in no matter what Rosier is doing. If he’s playing well, we’ll be up a few scores, and Perry can get work. If Rosier is just meh, but we’re holding on defense, bring Perry in for a series to see if we can spark the offense. If Rosier is downright awful, bring in Perry to see if we can salvage the W.

The key today is the defense playing at a very high level, so that Richt doesn’t have to feel like he’s gambling away a chance to win just for the sake of PT.

If the defense is getting shredded like last season, and Rosier is keeping us in it, nobody will play.
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Agreed. The bottom line is the offense needs to move the ball. I really don’t care who is under center. Just like every other position, if the starter isn’t getting it done, next man up. It’s the coaches job to make sure next man up is prepared and qualified to do the job.

We are far more in agreement than disagreement.
 
After today Richt ain't pullin rosier, he waited till the end of game and let Perry hand the ball off, not 1 fokin pass. That pretty much tells the story, Richt is not elite, does not have ANY killer instinct, and is one hard headed motherfluker. I can see why UGA fired his ***, and I already knew Diaz sucked from watching him here at Texas. Neither of these guys are great, Richt is good but not great, and Diaz gets outsmarted by any good OC with a few horses.
 
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Texxcane said:
After today Richt ain't pullin rosier, he waited till the end of game and let Perry hand the ball off, not 1 fokin pass. That pretty much tells the story, Richt is not elite, does not have ANY killer instinct, and is one hard headed motherfluker. I can see why UGA fired his ***, and I already knew Diaz sucked from watching him here at Texas. Neither of these guys are great, Richt is good but not great, and Diaz gets outsmarted by any good OC with a few horses.
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We won by 25 when the line was 10.5, you delusional fvck. When Jaquan went down it took Manny a few series to adjust to his senior leader not being on the field, but other than the one series before half and the two after, the defense absolutely dominated.

You can’t fault Toledo for attacking the middle of the field with Jaquan on the sideline, and you can’t fault Manny for taking a few series to adjust to losing our best defender.

N’kosi should have been playing in the 3rd, but a key injury on D let Toledo back in the game. Shlt happens.
 
Loose Cannon said:
I realize that those stats came against the same team everybody else played.

8 for 12, 67%, 137 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INTs
9 for 14, 63%, 93 yds, 3 TDs, 1 INT
1 for 2, 50%
1 for 3, 33%

All of those stats came against the same team, and the bottom two came against backups. I liked what I saw from all of the backups, but I saw nothing that says one guy definitively earned the right to overthrow the starter. And I don’t believe in grading on a curve because one has experience and the others don’t.
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No you give stats from a game my grandparents would have stats that are just as good unlike you I'd love to see the above stats against a good team like we use to back in the day.
 
Twhizman said:
No you give stats from a game my grandparents would have stats that are just as good unlike you I'd love to see the above stats against a good team like we use to back in the day.
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Fvck out of here with your pcssy *** deflection. All 4 QBs played against the same team. What are you trying to imply? That a QB that can’t out play Rosier against Savannah State will our play him vs someone else?
 
g8rh8rMD said:
No, it’s not. It’s saying if Rosier is spectacularly bad, objectively and quantifiably so (Rosier's Accuracy Numbers), it is an indictment on the coaching staff that three years into this regime, (1) we don’t have a competent option that is any better. Either that, or (2) Richt is stubbornly sticking by Rosier even though the others are better. On top of that, the guy is throwing team mates and fans under the bus saying all he has to do is “keep winning”, even though he is 1-4 in his last five games. That shows a lack of acceptance of personal responsibility and delusion which prevents addressing the fact that there is a problem. There’s nothing petulant about this.

If you want to continue this discussion, please address one of those two primary points and refrain from the emotional projection, or let’s just agree to disagree and continue to respect each other as the die hard Canes fans and intelligent posters that we are.

@Loose Cannon @OriginalCanesCanesCanes
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There is no emotional projection coming from me. That’s coming from the continued obsessive posting.The proof is this thread itself.

You’re confusing my criticism of this mindless and meaningless piling on with me defending Rosier’s performance. I’m doing no such thing.

Not once have I attempted to defend Rosier’s performance or the coaching staff’s failure in having decent QB options available. Clearly coaching errors and/or evaluation failures have resulted in our present position. I just don’t dwell on it like a despondent brat denied his sweets.

My entire point is that a good number of posters, including yourself, have decided that delusional rants, where they project emotions or attitudes on Rosier or others, that justify their agenda of constant hateful groupthink and piling on. When in reality, they are ascribing these emotions or attitudes on a person based on scant evidence, taken out of context, and subject to a multitude of interpretations.

So it is in this environment, that several of you have blown up a relatively meaningless throw-away quote like “laughing off’ boos as concrete proof of a horrific character flaw of Rosier and as an indisputable of his scorn towards fans/the game/winning. That’s a **** of a leap.

Rosier may be a terrible QB, but you people are now using the fact that someone isn’t good at their job, as a way to belittle the person. It’s pathetic. Rosier, for all his flaws, doesn’t deserve that. Especially from “Hurricane “fans”

But it’s a free country...say what you want. I was just hoping some of you would catch on to this herd mentality stupidity. But I guess not.
 
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