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Should we move James Williams to LB?

E1k said:
Not a good example because he was used all over the field. In his combine interview they asked what position he wants to be labeled as and he said football player. James shouldn’t be limited to one position
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I don't have a problem with him moving around. Just think he should get the most snaps at LB after an off-season of development
 
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JMO, he's much better closer to the line of scrimmage, coming downhill

Doesn't mean that he's not a safety, but everyone has a particular skill set that suits them the best
 
Hurricane23 said:
If you watch the film it was, he’s not gone throw his guy under the bus, James Williams blitz he was supposed to cover the rb out the backfield, go watch the play. Coaches almost never single players out aleast to the public they don’t
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He and Williams were both blitzing. He stopped and tried to go back because he saw the QB throwing it to the RB, but it wasn't his responsibility.

Malik Curtis is the one who messed up on the play. He followed the BCU motion man even though the safety on the other side was trying to wave him off. This lead to 2 on 1 on one of the BCU recievers and a wide open RB on the other side
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You are a clueless clown. This has nothing to do with "did it happen somewhere else". You don't know James Williams, you've never met James Williams, you've never seen James Williams' family, and yet you are some ******* delusionally ****y numbskull who thinks that everyone else should listen to your garbage ideas and your garbage analysis over and over and over again, just because your parents never told you to sit down and shut up with your stupid comments.

You have not cited a single reason, NOT ONE, related to James Williams SPECIFICALLY for why he should NOT play safety and why he SHOULD be playing linebacker EXCEPT FOR HIS HEIGHT. You so casually and ignorantly talk about him gaining 20 to 25 pounds as if that is some easy task and/or desirable for him in particular. You have no idea whether he (or the coaches) have the desire to make such a change, or how it will impact his athletic abilities, you just see "height" and you think you are more informed and knowledgable than our highly-paid coaching staff.

You are an ignorant buffoon who is going to continue to repeat this STUPID idea non-stop, just because of Isiah Simmons or some other player WHO ISN'T JAMES WILLIAMS, and quite frankly, nobody gives a fvck about your stupid ideas.

This isn't some "tough guy internet persona". Ask anyone who knows me, I am a very respecful and kind individual who will go out of his way to help a fellow Cane fan. But I've exhausted my patience with your HORRIBLE postings. I am speaking honestly and directly. You may be a fine individual person, and I won't give you a hard time for where you live or what you eat or who you vote for.

BUT YOUR FOOTBALL PORSTINGS ARE TERRIBLE. They just are.
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Ok James Williams…. We know you don’t want to be a Linebacker. We’ll keep you at safety. Happy?
 
Mackmiller974 said:
I think his ceiling is higher at LB then safety and it's a position of need
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Bro. If he’s 6’3 or shorter… there’s no conversation about switching him. Y’all want Cristobal to switch someone. Ask him to switch Thomas Davis to MLB instead of DE. That’s all.
 
I’ll throw in a few reasons why he should be a LB.
He’s not fast enough, sure as **** isn’t fast enough to play safety in the NFL. Maybe it’s short area burst, or overall speed, he just isn’t able to take aggressive angles to ball carriers.
He doesn’t show elite coverage skills. You could not blitz the corner from his side a roll him over a wr. He’d get beat.

He’s not an eraser. Safeties are erasers. Ideally they don’t miss as many tackles as he does.
I thought he should have been a striker in Mannys system. Maybe that’s the Star here?

I like James’s game, I agree with most though in that at minimum you need to move him around, he’s not a true FS for sure. I do not see him as enough of a playmaker that you design your D around him. Maybe he was in HS, that’s not the case at UM and surely won’t be the case in the NFL.

And the reason people might expect big things from him as a sophomore, is because the guys he always gets compared to, ST was a stud as a sophomore IIRC. Elite flashes as elite.

JW0 can claim anything he wants, fact is he’s not been elite yet. I see someone who was just physically imposing in HS based on his height, but when the rest of the players also dominated HS he doesn’t stick out as much. He will not even stick in the NFL, let alone stick out. Just my opinion though, I’m no coach.
 
CaNesxWrath said:
He and Williams were both blitzing. He stopped and tried to go back because he saw the QB throwing it to the RB, but it wasn't his responsibility.

Malik Curtis is the one who messed up on the play. He followed the BCU motion man even though the safety on the other side was trying to wave him off. This lead to 2 on 1 on one of the BCU recievers and a wide open RB on the other side
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He clearly saw Williams blitzing two or three steps before him......Smith was supposed to take the RB it was easy to see....
 
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CaNesxWrath said:
He and Williams were both blitzing. He stopped and tried to go back because he saw the QB throwing it to the RB, but it wasn't his responsibility.

Malik Curtis is the one who messed up on the play. He followed the BCU motion man even though the safety on the other side was trying to wave him off. This lead to 2 on 1 on one of the BCU recievers and a wide open RB on the other side
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Oh ok, I know they were in man, so when the wr went in motion Malik was supposed to stay and cover the back and the weak side backer or star was supposed to track the motion guy
 
Mackmiller974 said:
His range, athleticism, speed, Coverage skills and change change of direction quicknes. He just needs to get in the weight room to get stronger and bigger to help with his block shedding. Yes right now it's probably to late to make the switch but I'm referring to the off-season we're he gets a full year to develop and learn the position.
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Once again, this is why your posts are of a clown-level.

"He just needs to get in the weight room". He's in the weight room every day. I've seen him in the weight room. He is very strong. I'm absolutely certain you've never even seen James Williams up close, the best you've ever done is to watch him on your 27 inch 720p television. You are talking about adding 20-25 pounds to a very tall person in one off-season, and it just doesn't work like that. You should really apply for a job with Al Golden if you think the answer is to add 20-25 pounds to players.

"And bigger to help with his block shedding". It's not weight that is the magical ingredient in "block shedding", it is technique and drive. There are plenty of safeties and cornerbacks who are good at "block shedding", and they don't have to pack on unnecessary weight to do so. Your "suggestions" are such basic-level ideas that evidence absolutely no awareness of real football (though I'm sure you're great on video games).

"A full year to develop and learn the position". This is what is just nuts. You think he needs to "learn the position", as if there is a user manual he can study. Moving a safety to linebacker is not about "learning the position". While some players can make the transition quickly, others might require more time simply to adjust to a vantage point that is closer to the line of scrimmage, master different angles, etc.

Here's what you can't comprehend. James Williams will be moved around. He doesn't need to play one position exclusively. His role is "versatility", not "one position on a depth chart". To ask him to gain 20-25 pounds absolutely destroys that.

You just don't get it. You are just a fantasy football player who can't wrap his head around a TE who can flex out to WR.
 
Mackmiller974 said:
I'm not, I'm saying he should be a LB who moves around as chess piece. Not a safety that moves around
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Yeah, that fixes your entire idiotic thread. A 255 pound LB who moves around as a chess piece.

And you wonder why everyone thinks your posts are so brain-dead.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
MackBammer: “why not move him (to linebacker) permanently?”

I honestly think you don't know what you want - you’re all over the place.

Yes let’s move him to linebacker permanently, whatever the fūck that means, and then he can have 15-20% of his snaps as a linebacker, the rest as a DB. I don’t even know what you’re saying anymore.
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He's the classic poor-arguer who thinks that a constant ongoing revision of his original point will somehow make more sense, convince more people, and be a more acceptable thesis.

"If I can only re-explain it 20 times in 20 different ways, I'm sure that everyone will recognize my brilliance"...
 
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CaNesxWrath said:
What does seeing Williams blitzing in front of him have to do with anything if the play called for both of them to rush the passer?
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If you look they were talking right before the play....once Williams went in Smith's responsibility was RB....Curtis had already switched to the other side.....
 
canes614 said:
If you look they were talking right before the play....once Williams went in Smith's responsibility was RB....Curtis had already switched to the other side.....
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They play called for him to be a rusher as Steele said. It was supposed to be a six man rush with the back 5 defenders each covering a man. The miscomunication came between 2 DBs. If you watch the play, Malik goes with the motion man. The safety was calling him off to switch the coverage, but he didn't notice. So you ended up with both Malik and the safety on a BCU WR and the RB left alone
 
CaNesxWrath said:
They play called for him to be a rusher as Steele said. It was supposed to be a six man rush with the back 5 defenders each covering a man. The miscomunication came between 2 DBs. If you watch the play, Malik goes with the motion man. The safety was calling him off to switch the coverage, but he didn't notice. So you ended up with both Malik and the safety on a BCU WR and the RB left alone
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It doesn't matter you still have to recognize the alignment.... nobody was over there...
 
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