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Sherrone Moore - fired for cause

RVACane said:
I’m about to put this thread in OT or Town Hall because it’s gone political.

I’m a white over-educated middle of the road-ish non-liberal who does not like DEI. I don’t see how this is DEI. He was a successful assistant. He started at Michigan as a TEs coach and then became a co-OC and then acting HC to HC

Where are you getting this from?
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yeah i wonder....
 
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lurker said:
lol exactly. My job also offers a free therapy service, I think up to 3 sessions before you then have to find your own therapist. We remind staff of this company benefit all the time. But we can’t force anyone to use the service. All we can do is remind people and let them know it is available.

Do you expect the AD or HR to sit Moore down and schedule an appointment for him to see a therapist? He has to do that on his own.

Moore is a grown man. He should know what benefits his employer offers. It is up to him to use it. An employer can’t force an employee to use a company benefit.

It is just crazy to me that someone would expect an AD, while investigating his employee for possible sexual misconduct with his assistant, to sit the employee down and schedule him a therapist appointment because he heard (not from the employee) that the employee was having mental issues.

We live in such a soft ****ign world. Not only do employers have to make therapy available as a benefit (which is good) but now employers have to hold their employees hand and actually make the appointment for them? Give me a break. Does the employer have to drive them to the therapy appointment and take them back home?

We are also taking about an employee who makes millions of dollars and has all the resources in the world to find a therapist within a day, without the help of his employer.
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I understand your points but it doesn’t work like this where the AD has to schedule Moore’s therapy but HR and the Civil Rights Manager need to be part of it in a government job where there are many more protections for stuff like this. That’s just how it is. I have no idea but I would assume they were included to a degree given the investigation was ongoing. Not sure if he was supposed to consult with them again and didn’t or what.

Since we’re doing this, I am a non-practicing lawyer and employment law is not my area. 🤣
 
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AtlAtty said:
Even a consensual affair is a problem because the staffer can sue the university and claims he used his position of authority to effectively force her to have ***. This is why corporations have policies against dating subordinates. It opens up an avenue for lawsuits.
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Her: He said he'd give me a raise if I slept with him and fire me if I didn't.
HR: Do you have any evidence?

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Where was HR?
 
flips said:
nypost.com

Michigan eatery has menu items named after both disgraced coach Sherrone Moore and mistress Paige Shiver — for now

Ann Arbor staple The Brown Jug is currently reprinting their menus to erase Sherrone Moore and Paige Shiver from two items named in their honor.
nypost.com nypost.com

@Empirical Cane on we live in a sim chart where would you plot this

Edit: they have already changed named of cauliflower pizza to "will Johnson pizza" if you go on their website now lmao
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isnt this their historic place?

why does Paige shivers have an item named after her?
 
AtlAtty said:
Harbaugh basically hand picked Moore right after winning a championship. Harbaugh was going to be incredibly influential in that moment.

Stephen Pearl hired to coach at Auburn is 1,000,000x more egregious of a hiring, but since he isn’t a minority, I guess for people like @305 MOUNTAIN MAN, it doesn’t count. Bruce Pearl Never won a championship at Auburn, never played at Auburn (unlike Harbaugh), never attended high school in Auburn (unlike Harbaugh who went to high school in Ann Arbor), and yet he was able to “retire” late and slide his son into the head coaching position, and that is ok, but not Moore? Why?

Because to an incredibly ignorant segment of our population, like the aforementioned CIS poster, when a monitory fails, they were a DEI hire, which is just coded for black. But he thinks it makes him sound less racist to write DEI than black. But make no mistake the meaning is the same. When white men fail, not a sound from this ignorant group. When undeserving white men like Stephen Pearl are hired, not a sound from this ignorant group. Petty, small minded people who are unfortunately fans of U of Miami and members of CIS.
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All true. The unfortunate other side of this is that there are "voices" such as a Jamele Hill, who will convince a complete different- but no less ignorant- segment of our population that the primary reason Sherrone Moore will never coach again isn't because of his actions but primarily because of his skin color.

And round and round we go.
 
colperm said:
All true. The unfortunate other side of this is that there are "voices" such as a Jamele Hill, who will convince a complete different- but no less ignorant- segment of our population that the primary reason Sherrone Moore will never coach again isn't because of his actions but primarily because of his skin color.

And round and round we go.
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Good luck Ms. Hill. She is the other side of the coin that screams DEI hire. Both sides view everything from the lens of race, when much, much more often than not, race is irrelevant, especially in this situation.

If Moore just had an affair, he gets fired from Michigan, maybe takes a year off from coaching, and then gets hired as a position coach or coordinator. And in a few years he probably gets another shot at being a head coach, like Petrine, Pitino, and so many others.

But with the likelihood of a felony conviction, he will never coach again. I hope he had a fall back profession because his wife is about to keep any money they have in a bank account/investments, not to mention custody of the kids and child support after the divorce is finalized.

This result has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with Moore’s actions AFTER being fired.
 
AtlAtty said:
Good luck Ms. Hill. She is the other side of the coin that screams DEI hire. Both sides view everything from the lens of race, when much, much more often than not, race is irrelevant, especially in this situation.

If Moore just had an affair, he gets fired from Michigan, maybe takes a year off from coaching, and then gets hired as a position coach or coordinator. And in a few years he probably gets another shot at being a head coach, like Petrine, Pitino, and so many others.

But with the likelihood of a felony conviction, he will never coach again. I hope he had a fall back profession because his wife is about to keep any money they have in a bank account/investments, not to mention custody of the kids and child support after the divorce is finalized.

This result has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with Moore’s actions AFTER being fired.
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If I had to guess (and this is your field not mine) he’ll plea out at a misdemeanor and hopefully he’ll have a second chance in life which everyone (almost) deserves. He’s a sick man that needs help. A lot of help. I hope he gets it for the sake of his children.
 
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rsa coral gables said:
If I had to guess (and this is your field not mine) he’ll plea out at a misdemeanor and hopefully he’ll have a second chance in life which everyone (almost) deserves. He’s a sick man that needs help. A lot of help. I hope he gets it for the sake of his children.
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I hope he gets a chance at pleading to a misdemeanor. 2 charges are misdemeanors, but the breaking and entering is a problem. The prosecutors are liekly to be. Impacted by the wishes of the alleged victim. Thankfully Moore was threatening himself and not her. Prosecutors/courts tend to be more forgiving when no innocent person was injured.

A felony makes a person almost impossible to hire. You pretty much have to work for yourself if you have a felony conviction. And of course this impacts not only Moore but also his children.
 
rsa coral gables said:
If I had to guess (and this is your field not mine) he’ll plea out at a misdemeanor and hopefully he’ll have a second chance in life which everyone (almost) deserves. He’s a sick man that needs help. A lot of help. I hope he gets it for the sake of his children.
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He can't plea out on anything if it isn't offered. There's very little reason at this point for the DA to offer any deals and all kinds of reasons to lay his ears back and charge everything and seek the max. The school has no interest in seeking leniency, the side piece has no interest in seeking leniency, and the public wants a juicy trial.
 
AtlAtty said:
I hope he gets a chance at pleading to a misdemeanor. 2 charges are misdemeanors, but the breaking and entering is a problem. The prosecutors are liekly to be. Impacted by the wishes of the alleged victim. Thankfully Moore was threatening himself and not her. Prosecutors/courts tend to be more forgiving when no innocent person was injured.

A felony makes a person almost impossible to hire. You pretty much have to work for yourself if you have a felony conviction. And of course this impacts not only Moore but also his children.
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I hope he goes down hard on a felony; but you know he won’t. Victim will be more interested in a civil settlement and won’t cooperate with criminal prosecution.
 
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