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Sherrone Moore - fired for cause

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305 MOUNTAIN MAN said:
Everyone in Ann Arbor knew this was going on. It was only when they wanted to fire him that it was used against him. Clear as day. He’s an idiot, leave no doubt, a DEI hire, pushed on Woke Michigan by all those white over educated liberals and Harbaugh. They always viewed him as a temporary coach. Would have never gotten that job on his own merits, not even a candidate if a proper search would have been conducted. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
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I’m about to put this thread in OT or Town Hall because it’s gone political.

I’m a white over-educated middle of the road-ish non-liberal who does not like DEI. I don’t see how this is DEI. He was a successful assistant. He started at Michigan as a TEs coach and then became a co-OC and then acting HC to HC

Where are you getting this from?
 
RVACane said:
I’m about to put this thread in OT or Town Hall because it’s gone political.

I’m a white over-educated middle of the road-ish non-liberal who does not like DEI. I don’t see how this is DEI. He was a successful assistant. He started at Michigan as a TEs coach and then became a co-OC and then acting HC to HC

Where are you getting this from?
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Harbaugh basically hand picked Moore right after winning a championship. Harbaugh was going to be incredibly influential in that moment.

Stephen Pearl hired to coach at Auburn is 1,000,000x more egregious of a hiring, but since he isn’t a minority, I guess for people like @305 MOUNTAIN MAN, it doesn’t count. Bruce Pearl Never won a championship at Auburn, never played at Auburn (unlike Harbaugh), never attended high school in Auburn (unlike Harbaugh who went to high school in Ann Arbor), and yet he was able to “retire” late and slide his son into the head coaching position, and that is ok, but not Moore? Why?

Because to an incredibly ignorant segment of our population, like the aforementioned CIS poster, when a monitory fails, they were a DEI hire, which is just coded for black. But he thinks it makes him sound less racist to write DEI than black. But make no mistake the meaning is the same. When white men fail, not a sound from this ignorant group. When undeserving white men like Stephen Pearl are hired, not a sound from this ignorant group. Petty, small minded people who are unfortunately fans of U of Miami and members of CIS.
 
AtlAtty said:
Warde Manuel is not doing me any favors for supporting him. The news keeps getting worse for him. He may still survive this, but it remains to be seen.
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explain please why anyone would support this guy after everything that has happened under his watch from howard to moore
 
if it was that well known as it seems it is that he had mental health issues, what a **** poor job by Michigan for not getting him some help.

then firing him without HR present knowing his past issues?

no one at the university deserves a job after this.

I feel for his wife and kids.
 
hoops156 said:
if it was that well known as it seems it is that he had mental health issues, what a **** poor job by Michigan for not getting him some help.

then firing him without HR present knowing his past issues?

no one at the university deserves a job after this.

I feel for his wife and kids.
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Why is it the job of an employer to get someone help with their mental issues? He’s a 39 year old man.

Agreed that not having HR present when firing someone, regardless of whether they have mental health issues, is stupid.
 
PIPO said:
I’ve also heard from a friend who has a work colleague whose son is on the team that after he paid for the abortion, he started having an affair with another college girl.

That’s when it all blew up.

Michigan knew about this but wanted to wait until after signing day to finish investigation.
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Looks like what I was told regarding a second girl was real:

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hoops156 said:
you should take a look at your employee benefits esp in a high stress job.
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What does that have to do with what you said? Im a lawyer and very familiar with my employee benefits. There is nothing in there about them holding my hand and walking me to a therapist when I’m having mental health issues. They don’t find me a doctor/therapist and call them to make me an appointment.
 
lurker said:
What does that have to do with what you said? Im a lawyer and very familiar with my employee benefits. There is nothing in there about them holding my hand and walking me to a therapist when I’m having mental health issues. They don’t find me a doctor/therapist and call them to make me an appointment.
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U Mich literally offers free counseling as an employee benefit. if the AD and others knew, they should have sat him down and got him to see their therapist. they could have sat him down and talked to him about a leave of absence/sabbatical.

im a lawyer too and for a lot of places, they do include it with your benefits since they dont want an employee committing suicide due to stress/issues

https://hr.umich.edu/working-u-m/pr...s/responding-mental-health-concerns-workplace - i.e. the AD knew Moore was having a mental breakdown well before the incident.
 
AtlAtty said:
Harbaugh basically hand picked Moore right after winning a championship. Harbaugh was going to be incredibly influential in that moment.

Stephen Pearl hired to coach at Auburn is 1,000,000x more egregious of a hiring, but since he isn’t a minority, I guess for people like @305 MOUNTAIN MAN, it doesn’t count. Bruce Pearl Never won a championship at Auburn, never played at Auburn (unlike Harbaugh), never attended high school in Auburn (unlike Harbaugh who went to high school in Ann Arbor), and yet he was able to “retire” late and slide his son into the head coaching position, and that is ok, but not Moore? Why?

Because to an incredibly ignorant segment of our population, like the aforementioned CIS poster, when a monitory fails, they were a DEI hire, which is just coded for black. But he thinks it makes him sound less racist to write DEI than black. But make no mistake the meaning is the same. When white men fail, not a sound from this ignorant group. When undeserving white men like Stephen Pearl are hired, not a sound from this ignorant group. Petty, small minded people who are unfortunately fans of U of Miami and members of CIS.
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The Pearls are Jews. That's a minority.
 
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I'm a black man. And, you have to know as a black man you won't be given the grace that many white men receive. With that said, Sherrone Moore has displayed terrible judgment and immaturity. With that said, I do believe his sexual vice was used against him by those who never wanted him in the HC job at Michigan. Did those detractors collaborate with the mistress? Time will tell. Ultimately, Sherrone gave his detractors the rope to hang himself.
 
hoops156 said:
U Mich literally offers free counseling as an employee benefit. if the AD and others knew, they should have sat him down and got him to see their therapist. they could have sat him down and talked to him about a leave of absence/sabbatical.

im a lawyer too and for a lot of places, they do include it with your benefits since they dont want an employee committing suicide due to stress/issues

https://hr.umich.edu/working-u-m/pr...s/responding-mental-health-concerns-workplace - i.e. the AD knew Moore was having a mental breakdown well before the incident.
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lol exactly. My job also offers a free therapy service, I think up to 3 sessions before you then have to find your own therapist. We remind staff of this company benefit all the time. But we can’t force anyone to use the service. All we can do is remind people and let them know it is available.

Do you expect the AD or HR to sit Moore down and schedule an appointment for him to see a therapist? He has to do that on his own.

Moore is a grown man. He should know what benefits his employer offers. It is up to him to use it. An employer can’t force an employee to use a company benefit.

It is just crazy to me that someone would expect an AD, while investigating his employee for possible sexual misconduct with his assistant, to sit the employee down and schedule him a therapist appointment because he heard (not from the employee) that the employee was having mental issues.

We live in such a soft ****ign world. Not only do employers have to make therapy available as a benefit (which is good) but now employers have to hold their employees hand and actually make the appointment for them? Give me a break. Does the employer have to drive them to the therapy appointment and take them back home?

We are also taking about an employee who makes millions of dollars and has all the resources in the world to find a therapist within a day, without the help of his employer.
 
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