Shannon forgot he coached at Miami

[Astcloud11]

In all fairness to Randy, he was a good DC while he was here. It wasn't until he got the HC gig that he got in over his head. As they say in business, employees are meant to rise up the ranks until they reach their relative level of incompetence. Randy was never meant to be more than a DC. Nothing wrong with that in the grand scheme of things.

As far as his obvious bitterness and resentment towards the program, the guy should seek professional help so that he can move on, for his own sake. He embarrasses himself each time he takes a shot at us, no matter how subtle. Can't be easy to get booted from your alma mater (and especially in the way the he was booted), but at some point he has to recognize and accept that it was 100% the correct decision.

Randy Shannon wasn't just booted from his Alma Mater.
He gets so much hate about how bitter he is but nobody likes to mention how he had ZERO leverage as a new an unproven head coach with obtaining higher salary's for better quality assistants. He didn't have many connections because most of his coaching career up to that point was in South Florida. No way to get a diverse coaching staff with little funding and limited connects. So not only did they handcuff him as a HC, when he proved how terrible of a HC he was and rightfully got fired...They tried to low ball him and cheat him out of the money they owe'd him.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Holy s hit at the revisionist history going on in this thread.

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[Sigma_Cane_7]

Great recruiter too. Always looking comfortable. View attachment 55978

standing on his tippy toes?

wow talk about insecure

Hilarious when you consider he's standing next to a kid.

Yo this made my ******* day. I’m laughing so hard. That sums up Randy in one picture.


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[Canegrad89]

"they dont live in the past. they look ahead" lol dig at um

He is so bitter at UM that its not funny. So he doesn't cut as a head coach anywhere and tends to throw UM under the bus any chance he gets. That is because he still wishes he was at the U.

Randy should never be bitter at UM. Until a few years ago, everything he had was because of opportunities afforded to him by the U. He's made a ton of money because UM gave him a chance to be a Head Coach. He did not seize that opportunity. His #1 mistake was not hiring the right assistants. He made some really poor choices on those. He was given a lot of runway to succeed as a HC. He and he alone failed. Randy should be more classy & stop throwing any digs at a place that has given him so much (more than any other place has given him).

He didn't mention coaching at the U because he doesn't want people looking up his poor W-L record as a HC.

UM wasn't going to pay for quality assistant coaches. We paid Randy peanuts, and his assistants the shells. Richt is the first coach in years to get the money needed to put a real staff together.

UM always had the money to pay Randy and his assistants more. That is also on Randy for not negotiating better. Richt negotiated better and got paid better. He also was smart enough to negotiate higher comp for his assistants so he could succeed. Randy didn't negotiate the overall deal well and then failed. He was not ready to be a HC. He did not have the experience or savvy to make it work.

Randy made millions of dollars at Miami. The average person in the U.S. makes less than $50,000 a year. Seven figures a year is not peanuts.

 

[ThomasM]

"they dont live in the past. they look ahead" lol dig at um

He is so bitter at UM that its not funny. So he doesn't cut as a head coach anywhere and tends to throw UM under the bus any chance he gets. That is because he still wishes he was at the U.

Randy should never be bitter at UM. Until a few years ago, everything he had was because of opportunities afforded to him by the U. He's made a ton of money because UM gave him a chance to be a Head Coach. He did not seize that opportunity. His #1 mistake was not hiring the right assistants. He made some really poor choices on those. He was given a lot of runway to succeed as a HC. He and he alone failed. Randy should be more classy & stop throwing any digs at a place that has given him so much (more than any other place has given him).

He didn't mention coaching at the U because he doesn't want people looking up his poor W-L record as a HC.

UM wasn't going to pay for quality assistant coaches. We paid Randy peanuts, and his assistants the shells. Richt is the first coach in years to get the money needed to put a real staff together.

UM always had the money to pay Randy and his assistants more. That is also on Randy for not negotiating better. Richt negotiated better and got paid better. He also was smart enough to negotiate higher comp for his assistants so he could succeed. Randy didn't negotiate the overall deal well and then failed. He was not ready to be a HC. He did not have the experience or savvy to make it work.

Randy made millions of dollars at Miami. The average person in the U.S. makes less than $50,000 a year. Seven figures a year is not peanuts.

Compared to good coaches, it **** sure is. UM went cheap, and you know it. They went cheap with Coker, Shannon, and Golden.

 

[nycane]

"they dont live in the past. they look ahead" lol dig at um

He is so bitter at UM that its not funny. So he doesn't cut as a head coach anywhere and tends to throw UM under the bus any chance he gets. That is because he still wishes he was at the U.

Randy should never be bitter at UM. Until a few years ago, everything he had was because of opportunities afforded to him by the U. He's made a ton of money because UM gave him a chance to be a Head Coach. He did not seize that opportunity. His #1 mistake was not hiring the right assistants. He made some really poor choices on those. He was given a lot of runway to succeed as a HC. He and he alone failed. Randy should be more classy & stop throwing any digs at a place that has given him so much (more than any other place has given him).

He didn't mention coaching at the U because he doesn't want people looking up his poor W-L record as a HC.

he also hated recruiting. his idea of recruiting was offering a bunch of teammates from the same school

 

[Ethnicsands]

In all fairness to Randy, he was a good DC while he was here. It wasn't until he got the HC gig that he got in over his head. As they say in business, employees are meant to rise up the ranks until they reach their relative level of incompetence. Randy was never meant to be more than a DC. Nothing wrong with that in the grand scheme of things.

As far as his obvious bitterness and resentment towards the program, the guy should seek professional help so that he can move on, for his own sake. He embarrasses himself each time he takes a shot at us, no matter how subtle. Can't be easy to get booted from your alma mater (and especially in the way the he was booted), but at some point he has to recognize and accept that it was 100% the correct decision.

Randy Shannon wasn't just booted from his Alma Mater.
He gets so much hate about how bitter he is but nobody likes to mention how he had ZERO leverage as a new an unproven head coach with obtaining higher salary's for better quality assistants. He didn't have many connections because most of his coaching career up to that point was in South Florida. No way to get a diverse coaching staff with little funding and limited connects. So not only did they handcuff him as a HC, when he proved how terrible of a HC he was and rightfully got fired...They tried to low ball him and cheat him out of the money they owe'd him.

He actually had some good assistants. Not uniformly so, but some solid ones. Pannunzio and Stoutland were good enough for Saban. Palermo was a **** good DL coach, but couldn't stand Randy. Bill Young was a legit coach. I respect Barrow as a LB coach though plenty didn't like him here. Tommie Robinson is a legit rb coach. Hurtt was a legit bagman.

 

[RomeoJunior]

I have not hate for Randy Shannon. Guy is Miami Hurricane. Would still be here somehow if he could. Best of luck to him There are a lot of soft-shouldered, self-hating fa@@ts among our fan base that just love to show themselves and hate on former players. I've never got it. Guy played here, graduated from UM and coached here .Good luck to him. People have to work and people have to make a living. I hope he is successful at UCF.

Shannon had a lot of roles throughout his life that helped us to succeed in football. Yes he was not effective as a head coach, I get it. you guys all sound like Randy was responsible for all of our woes the last 14 years.

started by burning bridges with central and other major programs because he couldn't get over grudges.

Ohhh,...the irony....

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

I have not hate for Randy Shannon. Guy is Miami Hurricane. Would still be here somehow if he could. Best of luck to him There are a lot of soft-shouldered, self-hating fa@@ts among our fan base that just love to show themselves and hate on former players. I've never got it. Guy played here, graduated from UM and coached here .Good luck to him. People have to work and people have to make a living. I hope he is successful at UCF.

Shannon had a lot of roles throughout his life that helped us to succeed in football. Yes he was not effective as a head coach, I get it. you guys all sound like Randy was responsible for all of our woes the last 14 years.

started by burning bridges with central and other major programs because he couldn't get over grudges.

Ohhh,...the irony....

One of the main Shannon defenders rears his head!

 

[Odysseus]

Luls

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[TerragonSix]

Shannons problems here were;

No good OC's. Defense wasn't the problem, scoring was.

Not a good gameday coach. (He still isn't).

Counting too much on 2-3 star hidden gems.

No PR relation skills. You can miss fundraisers and schmoozing as a DC. Not as a HC.

Kehoe hit his low point here as a Oline Coach. Some of the worst I've ever seen.

He was too much of a disciplinarian.

He could've been here longer had he fixed the offense. He didn't. He alienated schools in FL that harmed recruiting.

At the end, he hardly recruited at all.

Also, near the end, his Dlinemen were not dominant, which is the crucial thing you need to run Randy's scheme well.

Randy is an okay DC. Hes a great LB coach.

He's a terrible HC because he does not have the required skillset.

Hated he went to the Gators, but hes a Cane as player and coach. If he wants to ignore the family, thats on him.

 

[dudenate]

Good DC / over rated recruiter

 

[LatinCane]

And we ended paying them ridiculous extensions and buyouts. As the saying goes, sometimes going with the cheap choice ends up costing you double.

He is so bitter at UM that its not funny. So he doesn't cut as a head coach anywhere and tends to throw UM under the bus any chance he gets. That is because he still wishes he was at the U.

Randy should never be bitter at UM. Until a few years ago, everything he had was because of opportunities afforded to him by the U. He's made a ton of money because UM gave him a chance to be a Head Coach. He did not seize that opportunity. His #1 mistake was not hiring the right assistants. He made some really poor choices on those. He was given a lot of runway to succeed as a HC. He and he alone failed. Randy should be more classy & stop throwing any digs at a place that has given him so much (more than any other place has given him).

He didn't mention coaching at the U because he doesn't want people looking up his poor W-L record as a HC.

UM wasn't going to pay for quality assistant coaches. We paid Randy peanuts, and his assistants the shells. Richt is the first coach in years to get the money needed to put a real staff together.

UM always had the money to pay Randy and his assistants more. That is also on Randy for not negotiating better. Richt negotiated better and got paid better. He also was smart enough to negotiate higher comp for his assistants so he could succeed. Randy didn't negotiate the overall deal well and then failed. He was not ready to be a HC. He did not have the experience or savvy to make it work.

Randy made millions of dollars at Miami. The average person in the U.S. makes less than $50,000 a year. Seven figures a year is not peanuts.

Compared to good coaches, it **** sure is. UM went cheap, and you know it. They went cheap with Coker, Shannon, and Golden.

 

[RomeoJunior]

I have not hate for Randy Shannon. Guy is Miami Hurricane. Would still be here somehow if he could. Best of luck to him There are a lot of soft-shouldered, self-hating fa@@ts among our fan base that just love to show themselves and hate on former players. I've never got it. Guy played here, graduated from UM and coached here .Good luck to him. People have to work and people have to make a living. I hope he is successful at UCF.

Shannon had a lot of roles throughout his life that helped us to succeed in football. Yes he was not effective as a head coach, I get it. you guys all sound like Randy was responsible for all of our woes the last 14 years.

started by burning bridges with central and other major programs because he couldn't get over grudges.

Ohhh,...the irony....

One of the main Shannon defenders rears his head!

Butch left a good thing,...Coker ruined a good thing....and given their resources, neither Shannon nor Golden were able to revive a good thing. We'll see if our 1st major hire, our homegrown Richt that happened to have fallen in our laps, can do so.<----Our Last 20 years in a nutshell.

I'd imagine the guy that ruined our positioning to take the most heat,...yet, for some odd reason, people have this fixation on Shannon. Kinda weird,...no?

If this still translates to you to be my "undying love and defense of Shannon" somehow, then hey, enjoy it right along with the other false narratives you create.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to the arms race for the talent we can get to show up on the field,...not super coaching Gods turning water into wine. It's utter baloney...as any coach here has to recruit his players away from the Clemson's of the he world housing $58 Million dollar fun worlds to call home.

The guy with the easiest transition out of all of them was hired in over his head and blew it.

 

[daytonacane]

https://youtu.be/KJcFnG49A7U

You will never convince me he wasn't a part of the Shapiro mess and that he had NO knowledge of what was going on. Remember his quote, "I have eyes and ears all over the place and I know everything going on." Paraphrase but accurate! He skated clear and simple!

CaneToad, are you aware it is a documented fact that he banned Shapiro from the athletic facilities and told the players to stay away from him? To my knowledge, he was one of the few that did not trust Shapiro. This fact was even noted by the NCAA investigation team. 'Course, the NCAA were a bit corrupt which is why we got off without major action against us. IMHO, Randy is an honorable man, just not a good HC. I hope he does well @ UCF.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

I have not hate for Randy Shannon. Guy is Miami Hurricane. Would still be here somehow if he could. Best of luck to him There are a lot of soft-shouldered, self-hating fa@@ts among our fan base that just love to show themselves and hate on former players. I've never got it. Guy played here, graduated from UM and coached here .Good luck to him. People have to work and people have to make a living. I hope he is successful at UCF.

Shannon had a lot of roles throughout his life that helped us to succeed in football. Yes he was not effective as a head coach, I get it. you guys all sound like Randy was responsible for all of our woes the last 14 years.

started by burning bridges with central and other major programs because he couldn't get over grudges.

Ohhh,...the irony....

One of the main Shannon defenders rears his head!

Butch left a good thing,...Coker ruined a good thing....and given their resources, neither Shannon nor Golden were able to revive a good thing. We'll see if our 1st major hire, our homegrown Richt that happened to have fallen in our laps, can do so.<----Our Last 20 years in a nutshell.

I'd imagine the guy that ruined our positioning to take the most heat,...yet, for some odd reason, people have this fixation on Shannon. Kinda weird,...no?

If this still translates to you to be my "undying love and defense of Shannon" somehow, then hey, enjoy it right along with the other false narratives you create.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to the arms race for the talent we can get to show up on the field,...not super coaching Gods turning water into wine. It's utter baloney...as any coach here has to recruit his players away from the Clemson's of the he world housing $58 Million dollar fun worlds to call home.

The guy with the easiest transition out of all of them was hired in over his head and blew it.

I didnt read any of that because it’s probably just another novel you copied and pasted from one of your porsts back in 2009.

 

[Miami Nights]

Shannon became overwhelmed as a Hc. He said as much while at Arkansas. He ain't bitter towards Miami. That's just some ***** chit fly by night fans say to appease they own non shoe tying asses. As bad as he was he was here as a HC he was much better than the guy most all of you crowned as a "real coach" in Al golden.

Pretty good dc. Not So good HC. ou have to be good/great in a lot of area's to be a big time college coach and Shannon didn't have those attributes.

Lot of y'all talking chit about Shannon mad cause he was better than golden, the worse coach in UM history.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

To my knowledge, he was one of the few that did not trust Shapiro.

Shalala knew what time it was also, no way that ***** didn't know anything.

That rat ******* scammed one of Her closest friends, Barry Alvarez (& His Son), out of $1M.

Barry and a group of other people sued Shapiro in 09', 2 years before the story came out, you can't convince me that Barry didn't give Shalala the heads up on Shapiro. No way in **** did that ***** just find out He was a Ponzi schemer when that Yahoo hit piece came out.

 

[bobshrum]

the way its going Randys next job will be at FSU

 

[MedleyCane]

In all fairness to Randy, he was a good DC while he was here. It wasn't until he got the HC gig that he got in over his head. As they say in business, employees are meant to rise up the ranks until they reach their relative level of incompetence. Randy was never meant to be more than a DC. Nothing wrong with that in the grand scheme of things.

As far as his obvious bitterness and resentment towards the program, the guy should seek professional help so that he can move on, for his own sake. He embarrasses himself each time he takes a shot at us, no matter how subtle. Can't be easy to get booted from your alma mater (and especially in the way the he was booted), but at some point he has to recognize and accept that it was 100% the correct decision.

Randy Shannon wasn't just booted from his Alma Mater.
He gets so much hate about how bitter he is but nobody likes to mention how he had ZERO leverage as a new an unproven head coach with obtaining higher salary's for better quality assistants. He didn't have many connections because most of his coaching career up to that point was in South Florida. No way to get a diverse coaching staff with little funding and limited connects. So not only did they handcuff him as a HC, when he proved how terrible of a HC he was and rightfully got fired...They tried to low ball him and cheat him out of the money they owe'd him.

The zero leverage is on him and the idiots (Shalala and Dee) who promoted him to HC.
That's on them, period.
But Shannon also has to take responsibility for alot of this because part of being a successful
HC is winning games at a level that you can exercise leverage with your employer or else you
bolt and he really didn't.
He was a poor manager at the HC level.
I do agree with you that it was bush league that the school (reportedly) attempted to low ball him
out of owed money, but nothing with Shalala surprised me.