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http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/24/senior-bowl-recap


Best 6-7 team: 2014 Miami Hurricanes

The draftable talent is astounding for a Miami team that finished below .500. Every Hurricane that showed up in Mobile -- LB Denzel Perryman, CB Ladarius Gunter, WR Phillip Dorset and TE Clive Walford -- walked away having helped himself. All four should be off the board before the draft's second day concludes.
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It's really sad to see this written. Such an indictment on how much this coaching staff has underachieved.
 
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theramon said:
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/24/senior-bowl-recap


Best 6-7 team: 2014 Miami Hurricanes

The draftable talent is astounding for a Miami team that finished below .500. Every Hurricane that showed up in Mobile -- LB Denzel Perryman, CB Ladarius Gunter, WR Phillip Dorset and TE Clive Walford -- walked away having helped himself. All four should be off the board before the draft's second day concludes.
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It's really sad to see this written. Such an indictment on how much this coaching staff has underachieved.
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No, not quite right. They apparently did a fairly good job in one aspect of coaching, developing them individually. They failed in another part, not putting all the individual talents together into a coherent winning team. No one can suggest that Walford, for example, was not developed. He had an excellent year and came from being an inexperienced raw talent to a very fine TE. That was due, in part, to good coaching. Gunter is another that apparently was developed individually, despite all the hatred for Paul Williams.

The coaching problem is scheme and philosophy. They even failed to capitalize on Chick's underappreciated individual skills.

There are different aspects to coaching, and the fact that so many individually have shined at the post-season games suggests that they received fairly good positional coaching, but were not utilized properly in the overall scheme.
 
Lol..again...player development is mostly in the player. Coaches play a role in a players development along with other players, position coaches etc but it's mostly on the player himself.
 
PAR said:
Lol..again...player development is mostly in the player. Coaches play a role in a players development along with other players, position coaches etc but it's mostly on the player himself.
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This right cheer.
 
confused... so coaches are good at getting players NFL ready? I understand the questions about having "all this NFL talent" but in reality its 4 guys. FSU has 5 Jrs entering...

ie these guys are good but the quantity is not enough to outright win games.
 
svenben said:
confused... so coaches are good at getting players NFL ready? I understand the questions about having "all this NFL talent" but in reality its 4 guys. FSU has 5 Jrs entering...

ie these guys are good but the quantity is not enough to outright win games.
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It's only good enough for 6 wins though?
 
svenben said:
confused... so coaches are good at getting players NFL ready? I understand the questions about having "all this NFL talent" but in reality its 4 guys. FSU has 5 Jrs entering...

ie these guys are good but the quantity is not enough to outright win games.
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Yes, and none of those "Jr's." played in the senior bowl. Miami obviously has other players who will be drafted and some in the first few rounds. Duke ring a bell? How about Flowers? Chick too. Miami was loaded with talent and underachieved dramatically. Epic failure by the coaching staff. SMH.
 
svenben said:
confused... so coaches are good at getting players NFL ready? I understand the questions about having "all this NFL talent" but in reality its 4 guys. FSU has 5 Jrs entering...

ie these guys are good but the quantity is not enough to outright win games.
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What is enough then? The problem is game planning , mid stream adjustments, play calling etc. that's on the coaches. Players aren't an issue. Not real confusing at all
 
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It shows that we have draftable talent, but our corches are trying to force that talent to play in a certain scheme that doesn't fit our players strengths! Think square peg into round hole. The players, alumni, and even our knowledgeable fans see it, but unfortunately, our dumbass staff don't! These corches lost 7 games with the type talent that we can put on the field?! Unreal! At worst, we should have lost 2-3 games this season! Al and staph is costing the school wins and costing these kids money by ******* up their draft positions!
 
No self-respecting Cane fan has anything to do with SI. We don't read their ******* magazine (swimsuit issue included), and we don't visit their ******* website. SI can die in a ******* fire.
 
Scheme along with NFL type talent and the right COACHING will get you ACCCG and a national champion contender
 
so we only need 10 1st round picks until we start contending, then. Good thing this is only fAiL's first year...
 
TheMatador said:
theramon said:
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/24/senior-bowl-recap


Best 6-7 team: 2014 Miami Hurricanes

The draftable talent is astounding for a Miami team that finished below .500. Every Hurricane that showed up in Mobile -- LB Denzel Perryman, CB Ladarius Gunter, WR Phillip Dorset and TE Clive Walford -- walked away having helped himself. All four should be off the board before the draft's second day concludes.
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It's really sad to see this written. Such an indictment on how much this coaching staff has underachieved.
Click to expand...

Gunter is another that apparently was developed individually, despite all the hatred for Paul Williams.
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I could not disagree with this more. Gunter's stock has risen because you cannot teach a corner how to be a legit 6'1" 200 pounder capable of tying his shoes without bending over.

In the era of the big corner, a kid with his frame, length, and fluidity will make teams drool. His main weakness is that he struggles finding the football, like most of our DBs. The allure of Gunter is strictly based on his physical attributes.

In fact, displaying an ability to use his size to press receivers all week impressed scouts, something he was never allowed to do at Miami. So unless Folden built a time machine, went back 22 years ago, shrunk himself down, and entered Mrs. Gunter's womb like the Magic School Bus so that he could alter Ladarius' DNA, he didn't do shlt to help him.
 
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luke137 said:
svenben said:
confused... so coaches are good at getting players NFL ready? I understand the questions about having "all this NFL talent" but in reality its 4 guys. FSU has 5 Jrs entering...

ie these guys are good but the quantity is not enough to outright win games.
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It's only good enough for 6 wins though?
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Why are you engaging that fsu ******. Fsu's dream is for Folden to be at UM forever.
 
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