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calinative umstudent said:
Biggest difference is that Kinchens was an All-American, while Parish wasn't close to that, and doesn't have the potential to be that.

People like Chaney over Parish because he has more potential and overall athleticism. I personally have always thought pure speed at RB is extremely overrated, Though if you got someone insanely fast and has great acceleration with great vision, you really got something special. But Speed score is actually a pretty good metric for RBs. And Chaney is much faster and quite a bit heavier than Parrish at the same height, which would give him a far better speed score. If you just want to look at production, compare their freshman years - Chaney was superior to Parrish. From there its been a tale of health, which is a serious knock on Chaney, and win in the comparison for Parrish. Parrish was just straight up solid last year. A little disappointing in the pass game though.

Parrish is a trustworthy back who you can count on to do the right thing most of the time and will pick up more yards than you'd expect him to. But he isn't special, and doesn't really have the potential to be. So he gets dismissed a lot. He is the type of RB you like to have, but more as an insurance depth piece. You don't want Parrish to be your starting RB. You WANT a guy like Chaney to be your starting RB. And last year it made sense why the hype was on Chaney - and Citizen. But this year, it's time to **** or get off the pot for Chaney - and next year Citizen will be in the same position. Anyone who misses 2 full seasons shouldn't have any major expectations, and if yr 3 turns out to be a dud, than its time to move on. I hope Chaney and Citizen get fully healthy, because I'd prefer the chance that we have an A talent at RB rather than the guaranteed B- that is Parrish - but I would not be sold on Chaney/Citizens chances today. I'd put better odds on Allen and Fletcher by the end of the season to be the guy.
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Until he can stay on rhe field, Chaney doesn't even provide JAG value to our Canes.

Parrish is, and has been, the far superior player because he actually plays.

Are we now going to start saying Citizen should be considered RB1 because one day he'll rip off a huge chunk play, we can feel it!!???
 
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BS85 said:
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Total offense went from 19th with Lashlee to 86th with Gattass.

Total defense went from 75th with Manny to 65th with Steele.
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So was a 5'8" MTSU WR repeatedly torching us.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Until he can stay on rhe field, Chaney doesn't even provide JAG value to our Canes.

Parrish is, and has been, the far superior player because he actually plays.

Are we now going to start saying Citizen should be considered RB1 because one day he'll rip off a huge chunk play, we can feel it!!???
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I'm not going to disagree that in their careers Parrish has been better. But he hasn't been anything special, or given anyone the impression that he will be in the future. Parrish doesn't have a starting job - for the full season - locked down in the slightest. To me Chaney and Citizen can't be relied upon - especially for this upcoming season. Like I said Parrish to me is just slightly above average.
 
SFbayCane said:
No, the bottom line is that Garcia got ****ed by one of the most incompetent offensive coordinators this side of Patrick Nix and felt that he would be stuck behind a kid who's currently begging for a redshirt. lol

Jake got hosed at UM. Plain and simple. Whether he pans out or not, he's a far better QB than Jacurri Brown in any competent system.
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Thank you Mr. Garcia. Your son would still be sitting behind TVD.

You have no idea what his status under Dawson would be.

He did not want to sit a 3rd year.

And if he sits at Mizzou then he is looking for his 3rd school.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
Thank you Mr. Garcia. Your son would still be sitting behind TVD.

You have no idea what his status under Dawson would be.

He did not want to sit a 3rd year.

And if he sits at Mizzou then he is looking for his 3rd school.
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Well, Mr Garcia’s son spent time at 4 high schools, right? He’s on to his second college program, so not one for lengthy relationships.
 
We all appreciate the enthusiasm but it's been rinse and repeat going back years on here. Camp practice reports come out glowing and then reality hits us like a sack of potatoes and MTSU happens.

In wait and see mode at the moment, I still think 8-4 is the most realistic outcome
 
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Canesfan43 said:
We all appreciate the enthusiasm but it's been rinse and repeat going back years on here. Camp practice reports come out glowing and then reality hits us like a sack of potatoes and MTSU happens.

In wait and see mode at the moment, I still think 8-4 is the most realistic outcome
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Last year people like Cribby were warning us the the offense had major issues. The change in tone this year is encouraging.
 
ITU projects the two deep after scrimmage #1

QB- TVD, Jacurri
RB- Allen, Parrish/Fletcher
WR- Colbie, Horton
WR- George, Harrell
Slot- Xavier, Brashard/Ray Ray
TE- Arroyo, Cam
LT- Rivers, Samson/Washington
LG- Cohen, Samson/Sagapolu
C- Lee, Cristobal
RG- Cooper, Kinsler
RT- Francis, McCoy/Washington
DE- Kelly, Harvey
DT- Deen, JHH, Jake
DT- Taylor, Moten, Horton
DE- Mesidor, Bain, Chantz
MLB- Francisco, Flagg
WLB- Cloyd, Wesley/Keontra
CB- Davonte, Richard
S- Kinchens, Jaden Harris
S- James Williams, Markeith
CB- Damari, Richard/Porter/Davis
Nickel- Davis, Couch
 
canesfan54 said:
ITU projects the two deep after scrimmage #1

QB- TVD, Jacurri
RB- Allen, Parrish/Fletcher
WR- Colbie, Horton
WR- George, Harrell
Slot- Xavier, Brashard/Ray Ray
TE- Arroyo, Cam
LT- Rivers, Samson/Washington
LG- Cohen, Samson/Sagapolu
C- Lee, Cristobal
RG- Cooper, Kinsler
RT- Francis, McCoy/Washington
DE- Kelly, Harvey
DT- Deen, JHH, Jake
DT- Taylor, Moten, Horton
DE- Mesidor, Bain, Chantz
MLB- Francisco, Flagg
WLB- Cloyd, Wesley/Keontra
CB- Davonte, Richard
S- Kinchens, Jaden Harris
S- James Williams, Markeith
CB- Damari, Richard/Porter/Davis
Nickel- Davis, Couch
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Damari 👀
 
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Pentagon Cane said:
In the kid's defense, the last 2 were covid related transfers.
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My mistake on the four high schools. He was actually enrolled in five.

Grayson (Ga)

Valdosta (Ga)

Narbonne (Calif)

Long Beach Poly (Calif)

La Habra (Calif)

Also, Covid wasn’t an issue in his Georgia transfers. In 2020, he played in Valdosta’s first game before being ruled ineligible by the state high school association due to violating transfer rules – Valdosta forfeited the win over Warner Robbins. Parents legally had separated to make the transfer appear legit, but GHSA said not so fast. So, Garcia’s father then arranged for sole custody of Jake, who transferred immediately to Grayson and the GHSA said OK.

Hopefully it works out for Jake at Missouri or his next stop, but there was no way Jake and the family were having him sit another year behind TVD. Warning: Be leery of kids micromanaged by mom and dad.
 
canesfan54 said:
“For the other cornerback job, we will project true freshman Damari Brown because UM clearly wants to get him in the starting lineup. It appears Brown is primarily competing against Porter, but Richard is also in the mix. At nickel, it is safe to say Davis has locked up that job.”
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What happened to all the Richard buzz from two weeks ago?
 
SFbayCane said:
No, the bottom line is that Garcia got ****ed by one of the most incompetent offensive coordinators this side of Patrick Nix and felt that he would be stuck behind a kid who's currently begging for a redshirt. lol

Jake got hosed at UM. Plain and simple. Whether he pans out or not, he's a far better QB than Jacurri Brown in any competent system.
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Jake earned his demotion.
 
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