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Schiano top of list .....Why

The Franchise said:
Don't understand Chud. If he didn't play here no one would be mentioning him. Monkey Boy Schiano seems like more Al Golden. Ped State NE type dyckface.

I'd break the mold with the next hire. Find a high octane spread guy. Or look at a guy like Pruitt if he coaches his own d and brings in a Chip Kelly disciple to run the o.
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Mark Stoops would most likely bring his OC from UK, Neal Brown. Has called play for Troy and TTech since 08.

Troy was 3rd in total offense in 09
TTech was 15th in 2010, 13th in 2011, 13th in 2012
 
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HighSeas said:
Evenkeel24 said:
Man, some of y'all are trippin. There are atleast 20 realistic options for HCs that would come here and wreck ****. Schiano is one of them. We'd have one of the meanest, stingiest defenses in the country year in and year out. Bringing pressure from all over relentlessly. As long as he brought in a decent offensive mind with him, that would be a money hire IMO

And what's with this obsession of not wanting our next coach to be a ****? Some of the most successful college coaches around are the biggest ****s on earth(saban, meyer, petrino). I want an ornery son of a **** on atleast his second marriage that will light a fire under our players asses week in and week out. I want our boys to come out ****ed off at the world, ready to *** rape the opponent in front of them. Pretty much the exact opposite of what we see out of our guys now. The players take on the personality of their coach

It all starts at the top my brothers
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No you're the one who's trippin dude. The Bucs defense under Schiano/Bill Sheridan blitzed and stunted with no rhyme or reason resulting in a low sack output and historically bad pass defense. Look at the difference between Gerald McCoy this preseason versus under Schiano, as an example. Gerald is finally poised to have a DPOY caliber year under a coach who will let him rush upfield in the B gap every down.

As for your 2nd point about wanting a coach who has a "****" personality, you must not have noticed when the Bucs completely folded in the last year and a half under Schiano and didn't even compete in a number of games. It was embarrassing really and forced the Glazers hand to fire Schiano's loser ***.

Indeed, it all starts at the top and you must have shut yours off the past few years to think Schiano is even a decent coach.
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The **** u keep bringin up the bucs for? That has little to do with how successful he would be in college. It's pretty well known that u can't treat NFL players like college kids. That **** doesn't fly with grown *** men. Remember saban with the dolphins? How bout petrino with the falcons? How long did they last at either stop? So u tellin me u wouldn't take saban or petrino cause of their NFL stints? Gtfoh

Given the caliber of athlete he'll have at his disposal down here, I guarantee u we'll be satisfied with he results on that side of the ball. The offense remains an unknown. But like I said in my OP, if he can identify a decent OC, that's a 10 win team at minimum yearly
 
DiegoCane said:
Mark Stoops would most likely bring his OC from UK, Neal Brown. Has called play for Troy and TTech since 08.

Troy was 3rd in total offense in 09
TTech was 15th in 2010, 13th in 2011, 13th in 2012
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I'm on the Stoops bandwagon for sure. I'd be ecstatic if he ended up here.
 
Ok forget about the Bucs. What did he actually do at Rutgers? Pretty much what Golden did at temple AFTER being a successful DC at UVa. Just like Schiano parlayed a good stint here into a HC job. Stoppppppp with the Schiano.

As for leavitt he didn't recruit Tampa, Orlando, St Pete, Manatee very hard. Didn't recruit his backyard well. He would be a good DC though
 
Chad Morris HC/OC. Keep Coley around as Assistant HC & Co-OC to keep him happy while we know Morris is calling the shots. Bring in Schiano as a DC. Case-Closed. Full speed ahead!
 
bbcane said:
Ok. Just keep coley in some form of coaching positions not named offensive coordinator. Keep all other position coaches except d coordinator. IMO that's 10 wins alone.
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**** that, Swasey, Kehoe, and Jethro need to GTFO
 
The Franchise said:
Don't understand Chud. If he didn't play here no one would be mentioning him. Monkey Boy Schiano seems like more Al Golden. Ped State NE type dyckface.

I'd break the mold with the next hire. Find a high octane spread guy. Or look at a guy like Pruitt if he coaches his own d and brings in a Chip Kelly disciple to run the o.
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Chud was our offensive coordinator 2001, 2002. Dude knows how to call a good game. He did well in the NFL as well, but unfortunately ended up as HC of the Browns (a death sentence). He was well regarded with them though. Dude knows how to run a program. I also happen to like his offense style. Mixed in a lot of passes to TE's and FB's a long with a healthy dose of RB screens.
 
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DiegoCane said:
The Franchise said:
Don't understand Chud. If he didn't play here no one would be mentioning him. Monkey Boy Schiano seems like more Al Golden. Ped State NE type dyckface.

I'd break the mold with the next hire. Find a high octane spread guy. Or look at a guy like Pruitt if he coaches his own d and brings in a Chip Kelly disciple to run the o.
Click to expand...

Mark Stoops would most likely bring his OC from UK, Neal Brown. Has called play for Troy and TTech since 08.

Troy was 3rd in total offense in 09
TTech was 15th in 2010, 13th in 2011, 13th in 2012
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I'd like to see Stoops do more at Kentucky. So far, all he's done is recruit well. And Pruitt took Stoops' good defense at fsu and turned them into killers in one year.

And those TTU numbers actually seem low for what TTU normally does on offense. What were his numbers at Kentucky last year?
 
Ladies and gentlemen, OP:

Caneibal said:
Every year since Al Golden took over this train wreck we have improved on and off the field. No more NCAA sanctions, more wins every year, n better recruiting class. Still many of the basement mental midgets here complain. We r not going to play for or win the NC every year, those days are over. I expect plus 9 wins a year n maybe more depending on how we project every year. Oh by the way, alum 1988.
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http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/74350-Mental-Midget-U-fans-m
 
Neal Brown is a great offensive mind. With all the athletes at Miami, he would put up some crazy numbers
 
The Franchise said:
DiegoCane said:
The Franchise said:
Don't understand Chud. If he didn't play here no one would be mentioning him. Monkey Boy Schiano seems like more Al Golden. Ped State NE type dyckface.

I'd break the mold with the next hire. Find a high octane spread guy. Or look at a guy like Pruitt if he coaches his own d and brings in a Chip Kelly disciple to run the o.
Click to expand...

Mark Stoops would most likely bring his OC from UK, Neal Brown. Has called play for Troy and TTech since 08.

Troy was 3rd in total offense in 09
TTech was 15th in 2010, 13th in 2011, 13th in 2012
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I'd like to see Stoops do more at Kentucky. So far, all he's done is recruit well. And Pruitt took Stoops' good defense at fsu and turned them into killers in one year.

And those TTU numbers actually seem low for what TTU normally does on offense. What were his numbers at Kentucky last year?
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They were worse on slightly worse on D under Pruitt then Stoops

2011: 275 ypg
2012: 251 ypg

2013: 283 ypg

Hard to compare his #s at UK because they are at a severe talent disadvantage vs other SEC teams.
 
If they could lure him away from his alma mater Kliff Kingsbury would be someone I'd like at Miami.
 
canadianhurricane said:
Chud.. He brings instant credibility. He knows THE U, recruited the area, and has strong NFL ties. All this is a pipe dream cause AG will still be here. I have no faith in the admin. They won't fire a guy they just gave a contract extension to. They should of did it after the PSU flirt.. It would of saved me a lot of heartache and $...
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Actually, I think they fired Randy and Coker right after giving them an extension. Donna's brain is more short-sighted than her head. And she is stupid. Another self proclaimed DC genius.
 
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I could live with Stoops. Ties to THE U, but cost money to take an SEC coach.

But Chud is out of work and looking for way back to NFL HC job. What better way than winning NC at THE U? We get him cheap for 2 or 3 years, he wins NC and goes. I can live with that. We should only take a coach who want NFL HC job. Nesters are like Coker and Al. The best of them deliver 2 or 3 NCs in 30 years. We want 2 every 5.
 
DiegoCane said:
The Franchise said:
DiegoCane said:
The Franchise said:
Don't understand Chud. If he didn't play here no one would be mentioning him. Monkey Boy Schiano seems like more Al Golden. Ped State NE type dyckface.

I'd break the mold with the next hire. Find a high octane spread guy. Or look at a guy like Pruitt if he coaches his own d and brings in a Chip Kelly disciple to run the o.
Click to expand...

Mark Stoops would most likely bring his OC from UK, Neal Brown. Has called play for Troy and TTech since 08.

Troy was 3rd in total offense in 09
TTech was 15th in 2010, 13th in 2011, 13th in 2012
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I'd like to see Stoops do more at Kentucky. So far, all he's done is recruit well. And Pruitt took Stoops' good defense at fsu and turned them into killers in one year.

And those TTU numbers actually seem low for what TTU normally does on offense. What were his numbers at Kentucky last year?
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They were worse on slightly worse on D under Pruitt then Stoops

2011: 275 ypg
2012: 251 ypg

2013: 283 ypg

Hard to compare his #s at UK because they are at a severe talent disadvantage vs other SEC teams.
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Thanks for the total D numbers.

Pruitt improved the scoring D from 6th to 1st. It wasn't as big of an upgrade as I originally thought, but it was an upgrade.

I think it's still important to see what they did at Kentucky. The offense was really bad in their first year at Kentucky. They had the 107th rated scoring and total offense.
 
Its Kentucky, who has the worst talent in the SEC. Its going to take awhile to turn it around. Stoops also managed to pull the 22nd rank recruiting class in 2014. The OC has called plays 5 years before UK, 4 of those years were in the top 15.

As far as scoring D, we know all about that. Too many factors involved for it to be the #1 thing to look at.
 
DiegoCane said:
Its Kentucky, who has the worst talent in the SEC. Its going to take awhile to turn it around. Stoops also managed to pull the 22nd rank recruiting class in 2014. The OC has called plays 5 years before UK, 4 of those years were in the top 15.

As far as scoring D, we know all about that. Too many factors involved for it to be the #1 thing to look at.
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I think scoring D is the most important defensive stat. Likewise, scoring O is the most important offensive stat.

Not willing to overlook the 107th rated offense at Kentucky, but thanks for the discussion. The OC Brown did a decent job at TTU, but my guess is that their O was better before he got there under Leach and is probably better after he left under Kingsbury. And I don't even count Troy because they always kill it there with him or anyone else.
 
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