Ryan Day Comments on NIL

[Shogungts]

What is Ohio State’s coaching budget? Ryan Day’s annual compensation was recently adjusted up to $9.5M. I assume his staff collectively earns close to or over the $3.5M needed to equal the $13M in NIL money he’s referring to.

Yet some think ‘NIL is a disaster”.

To be fair to Day, he did not say it was a disaster but was rather pleading with boosters/businesses in order to keep the roster since the school is not allowed to pay the players (like they do him).

 

[Memnon]

I agree economic systems can vary, but this isn’t even a system it’s just random chaos. There needs to be some kind of structure or this is going to continue to spiral out of control.

We are barely past year one and look how bad it’s gotten.

Be careful what you wish for...

 

[TemplarCane]

To be fair to Day, he did not say it was a disaster but was rather pleading with boosters/businesses in order to keep the roster since the school is not allowed to pay the players (like they do him).

I wasn’t referring to Day’s comments. More so the fan and sports media talking heads.

And being a bit sarcastic on a Friday afternoon.

 

[OldhamA]

In a year or so you're probably looking at around $50M to acquire and maintain talent at an annual level, each year.

Disagree - you're approaching NFL roster levels at that point.

These prices will settle down eventually - right now it's the Wild West and nobody knows what the market rate is.

 

[GojiraCane]

Disagree - you're approaching NFL roster levels at that point.

These prices will settle down eventually - right now it's the Wild West and nobody knows what the market rate is.

If A&M is committed to spending $30M a year on each signing class, that quickly adds up to a minimum of $32M per year (4 classes at $8M each in annual payments). Thats excluding inflation, having to escalate to beat insurgents like Tennessee, etc.

 

[DamnLiesAndStatistics]

Is it? Is it really? Or is it just reallocating a very small part of the billions of dollars the schools make to the kids who are the actual product.

Let's not pretend that CFB isn't already a case of the haves and have nots. Don't see how this really changes anything from a macro sense, except that it rearranges the deck chairs a bit, and allows programs that aren't as likely to commit felonies in order to pay kids to compete with the shady ones that do.

I disagree about the kids being the actual product. The college is what people support. And if the best players started playing for a minor league nfl team, I bet college football would still survive with the best of the rest. People want to support their Alma mater.

That being said, I agree with everything else you said.

 

[Rellyrell]

This whole NIL thing, in its current form, is an unmitigated disaster.

Say it again for the ppl in the back.

Again, THIS IS NOT WHAT NIL WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT.
-It was to stop prohibiting kids from earning $$ from their name, image, or likeness if their name, image, or likeness was used for any monetary value benefiting anyone besides said athletes.

-It was imposed to allow kids to be compensated w/o penalty if they were offered an opportunity to make $$ off of sold memorabilia w/ their name on it.

-It was supposed to allow them to be featured in a commercial & paid for their appearance.

-It was meant to allow said athletes an opportunity to get a piece of the merchandise sales schools receive when items w/ their image or name is on it.

-If a gaming company were to use their likeness to promote a game, product, etc., said student athletes were to be compensated.

THAT’S the nature of NIL. This chit as it currently structured is just boosters being pleaded w/ to openly pay kids on rosters (which is still pay for play) or transfer/HS recruits (again, pay for play).

It’s total horse chit.

 

[bobbydigius]

Be careful what you wish for...

We are upsetting the status quo and the haves are scrambling to adjust while offering an opportunity for others such as our program and people say it’s a problem. Rip the full band aid off. Let the market decide what is what. It may kill CFB as we know it but that **** wasn’t really working for me as it was anyway.

 

[TheEye]

This is exactly why employers don’t want employees sharing their salaries. Now that everything is public, the coaches are scrambling for boosters to up the bids.

 

[kryptonite]

Is it? Is it really? Or is it just reallocating a very small part of the billions of dollars the schools make to the kids who are the actual product.

Let's not pretend that CFB isn't already a case of the haves and have nots. Don't see how this really changes anything from a macro sense, except that it rearranges the deck chairs a bit, and allows programs that aren't as likely to commit felonies in order to pay kids to compete with the shady ones that do.

It’s not reallocating school money, this is private money. From a fairness standpoint, it’s still bullsh*t the ncaa makes all that money and the players get none of it. I’m all for players getting paid, but I wish this were following more of a pro sports model. That said, nobody should be surprised it’s a sh*t show. College football always has been and always will be.

 

[Brains]

I'm not so sure it's a reallocation of the billions of dollars made by the schools and the NCAA. After all, it's not like the schools or NCAA are actually footing the bill on this, right? By example, I don't think Ruiz has made a dollar off the unpaid labor of college athletes, but he's sure as **** stroking checks for them right now.

The NCAA and schools may be crying that they are losing control, but they STILL aren't paying their fair share. As far as I'm concerned, that's the real hidden story here.

I was gonna say this.

 

[Mikeiavelli]

So he confirmed their "recruiting budget" from prior years?

 

[Brains]

It’s not reallocating school money, this is private money. From a fairness standpoint, it’s still bullsh*t the ncaa makes all that money and the players get none of it. I’m all for players getting paid, but I wish this were following more of a pro sports model. That said, nobody should be surprised it’s a sh*t show. College football always has been and always will be.

What is a "pro sports model?"

 

[kryptonite]

We are upsetting the status quo and the haves are scrambling to adjust while offering an opportunity for others such as our program and people say it’s a problem. Rip the full band aid off. Let the market decide what is what. It may kill CFB as we know it but that **** wasn’t really working for me as it was anyway.

Yeah, the thing is that the wrong people are paying. Look, if Ruiz wants to spend, I’m all for it. But at some point, doesn’t it make sense for the kid’s “employers” to actually pay them? If I were a booster, I might wonder why I had to spend all that money to win, but the school doesn’t. I might wonder why the ncaa still profits from the kids work while not paying a dime to them.

 

[kryptonite]

What is a "pro sports model?"

Players get paid by their school with some type of salary cap so one team can’t just outspend everybody else (yes, I get the enforcement issues). Guys in the nfl get endorsements but they also have a salary from their employer. Wouldn’t you think it was weird if your favorite nfl team just gave the players $50k a year and expected the rest to come from endorsements?

 

[bobbydigius]

Yeah, the thing is that the wrong people are paying. Look, if Ruiz wants to spend, I’m all for it. But at some point, doesn’t it make sense for the kid’s “employers” to actually pay them? If I were a booster, I might wonder why I had to spend all that money to win, but the school doesn’t. I might wonder why the ncaa still profits from the kids work while not paying a dime to them.

It makes sense for anyone that is willing to pay. Everyone else made this about money, so why can’t the kids. They should get paid by the schools, they kinda/partly do now with tuition and other things, and by any advertisers that are willing. The point about the boosters makes sense. It’s been a makeshift system that was most beneficial to the school’s pockets. It’s kinda like restaurants and tipping in the US. The restaurant has gotten used to their servers making barely nothing and relying on the patrons to cover the majority of their pay checks. Gonna be hard to reverse though. Plus some boosters just like to donate anyway.

 

[Brains]

Players get paid by their school with some type of salary cap so one team can’t just outspend everybody else (yes, I get the enforcement issues). Guys in the nfl get endorsements but they also have a salary from their employer. Wouldn’t you think it was weird if your favorite nfl team just gave the players $50k a year and expected the rest to come from endorsements?

Wouldn’t you think it was weird if your favorite nfl team just gave the players $50k a year and expected the rest to come from endorsements? Yes, of course.

 

[Shogungts]

Players get paid by their school with some type of salary cap so one team can’t just outspend everybody else (yes, I get the enforcement issues). Guys in the nfl get endorsements but they also have a salary from their employer. Wouldn’t you think it was weird if your favorite nfl team just gave the players $50k a year and expected the rest to come from endorsements?

And I am sure most of the coaches don't like it either as it means that the boosters become pseudo GMs. "I just paid all this money for this kid to pick school our school, I want to see him play now or I am not giving any money to the school or recruits in the future'

 

[kryptonite]

Wouldn’t you think it was weird if your favorite nfl team just gave the players $50k a year and expected the rest to come from endorsements? Yes, of course.

And that’s where we are. Kids should get paid, ncaa wants to keep all the money, so the only way to get paid is through NIL. NIL should be an add-on to a salary the ncaa pays the players.

 

[kryptonite]

And I am sure most of the coaches don't like it either as it means that the boosters become pseudo GMs. "I just paid all this money for this kid to pick school our school, I want to see him play now or I am not giving any money to the school or recruits in the future'

One of many issues with this. To be fair, that was probably already happening.