Rutgers' dumpster fire continues to drag down Big Ten

Paranos

All-ACC
Joined
Aug 7, 2012
Messages
13,605
This Kyle Flood is all but fired at this point, when the conference is now making Rugters a pariah the school will be forced to make a coaching change. AL Golden is but assured to have a landing spot with Rutgers by Christmas if Golden doesn't deliver a 10+ win season at Miami this year.

Rutgers' dumpster fire continues to drag down Big Ten - Yahoo Sports

Rutgers' dumpster fire continues to drag down Big Ten
By Pat Forde 9-17-2015

On Nov. 19, 2012, Rutgers and Maryland formally accepted somewhat surprising invitations to join the Big Ten conference.

On that day, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany looked like Julia Roberts marrying Lyle Lovett, and John McCain selecting Sarah Palin as a running mate. Nobody could quite see the attraction.

Not yet three years after a day that will live in Big Ten infamy, the Rutgers part of the expansion equation looks even worse than it did then. Far worse. Of all the realignment maneuvers of the past five years, adding the Scarlet Knights is liking signing up for a lifetime case of poison ivy rash.

This has been an absolute debacle.

Delany has done a lot of smart things in his long tenure as Big Ten commish. He added Penn State, which was a boon until the Sandusky scandal brought down Joe Paterno and sent the school through a painful period of crisis. He added Nebraska, and that has gone well. He helped create the Big Ten Network, which has been a revenue geyser. He has served the conference well.

But the Rutgers decision goes alongside decades of resistance to a football playoff as the two major splotches on Delany’s resume. He eventually bowed to public pressure and came around to the playoff concept. He might be well-served to evict the stumblebums from New Jersey next, before they can do further damage to the conference’s prestige and reputation.

No, that’s not really going to happen. At least now. Maybe after the next six fiascos in Piscataway.

The latest development was the university’s announcement Wednesday that it is suspending football coach Kyle Flood for the next three games. That’s after a university investigation showed he violated school policies and procedures by contacting and meeting with a professor in attempt to get a player’s grade changed – and get his eligiblity restored.

The president of Rutgers’ faculty union told NJ.com on Wednesday that the three-game suspension is “a slap on the wrist.” It’s hard to disagree with that assessment.

The Rutgers report shows the extent to which Flood went to avoid detection in his dealings with the professor: meeting off-campus; communicating only through private emails; and trying to swear others in the know about the grade-change scheme to secrecy. Not the actions of a man who says he simply didn’t know the rule about contacting a professor, and thus made an honest mistake. Nobody goes to those cloak-and-dagger lengths to keep something out of public view if they think they’re not doing something wrong.

The great cosmic joke of the whole situation is the fact that Flood stuck his neck out for a player who is no longer on the team – and not for academic reasons. Junior cornerback Nadir Barnwell was one of six players kicked off the team earlier this month after being charged with various crimes. Barnwell and three others are charged with assault, and two Scarlet Knights are charged with home invasions.

Five other players were suspended for the first half of the season opener for curfew violations. Among them was Rutgers’ best player, receiver Leonte Carroo, who this week was indefinitely suspended from the team following an arrest for an altercation outside the stadium after the Knights’ loss to Washington State on Saturday. Carroo was charged with simple assault in a domestic violence situation and has entered a plea of not guilty. According to a complaint filed in the case, Carroo allegedly slammed a woman into the concrete outside the football facility.

But, hey, these are merely the most recent reasons why Rutgers has become the laughingstock of college athletics. The school has basically been on a negative roll ever since the Big Ten made its terrible error of inviting in the Knights.

Five days after accepting the Big Ten offer in 2012, the Rutgers football team lost by three touchdowns to Pittsburgh. That was followed by an upset loss to Louisville. A team that was 9-1 finished 9-3 and blew its chance at a BCS bowl bid. Shuffled off to the Russell Athletic Bowl, Rutgers lost to Virginia Tech to end the season on a three-game losing streak.

Since then Rutgers has gone 15-13 in football. But that was simply fabulous compared to the mushroom cloud that appeared over the basketball program four months after accepting the Big Ten invitation.

That was the Mike Rice scandal, in which videotape emerged in 2013 of the basketball coach throwing basketballs at his players, shoving and kicking them and verbally abusing them. The story was salacious enough that it overshadowed the latter stages of the ’13 NCAA tournament. Rice was fired and eventually replaced by Eddie Jordan, a former Rutgers great who – oops! – didn’t actually have a Rutgers degree because he never finished his coursework. Jordan had to go back to school while on the job, adding another layer of punch lines to the program.

Athletic director Tim Pernetti also lost his job as collateral damage in the Rice scandal. But the school might not have fired Pernetti if it knew what it was getting in his successor, Julie Hermann.

By late May 2013, the freshly hired Hermann was trying to fight off accusations that she had been an abusive coach herself, when she led the Tennessee volleyball program in the 1990s. It was also revealed that Hermann was involved in a discrimination lawsuit against Tennessee, in which her former assistant coach, Ginger Hineline, claimed Hermann fired her for becoming pregnant. Hineline was awarded $150,000.

But that was just the past. Hermann’s work at Rutgers has earned her far fewer allies than it has created negative headlines.

So this is the festering sore of an athletic department Jim Delany welcomed with open arms. He’s a Jersey guy, grew up in South Orange, and he’s been obsessed with gaining a Big Ten toehold in the New York market.

Only problem is, the only time the Big Ten’s New York-area school makes news is when it is embarrassing itself. Which, from nearly the day it accepted the infamous invitation, has been all the time.

Julia Roberts at least could divorce Lyle Lovett, and the McCain-Palin ticket was only for a few months. The Big Ten appears to be stuck with the dumpster fire that is Rutgers for a long time to come.
 
Advertisement
They need those 300 page binders BAD over there. He'll, they might kick some extra $$ to us to buy him out and 'steal' him
 
Rutgers receiver Leonte Carroo allegedly slammed woman into concrete

Rutgers WR Leonte Carroo allegedly slammed woman into concrete
From AP 9/15/17 via ESPN

Rutgers' leading receiver, Leonte Carroo, who was suspended indefinitely by the team over the weekend, allegedly slammed a woman onto the concrete outside the team's football building after Saturday's loss, according to a report by The Record of Bergen County.

The report cites a complaint filed in municipal court, which alleges Carroo assaulted a woman he was romantically involved with by "picking her up and slamming her down on a concrete surface" outside the Hale Center on Saturday night. The woman's left hip, both palms, left elbow and left side of the head were injured in the incident, according to the complaint.

Carroo remains free on $1,000 bail after pleading not guilty to a domestic violence-related assault charge, court records show. He is due in court Oct. 1.

He remains on indefinite suspension from the football team.

Carroo also was suspended earlier in the month for the first half of the team's season opener after missing curfew.

About two hours before the news of Carroo's arrest was released, coach Kyle Flood was asked by reporters about if and when Carroo might be able to return.

"I don't anticipate any change in status as of right now,'' Flood said.

Including Carroo, seven current or former Rutgers players have been arrested this month.

At practice on Monday, athletic director Julie Hermann met with players and emotionally expressed support for Flood. Hermann said she spoke to the team about personal accountability and expressed her "unwavering support'' for the program.

"This program has historically represented this university to the highest standards, both on and off the field,'' Hermann said in a statement shortly after news of Carroo's arrest broke. "I can tell you from my personal interactions that this locker room is filled with the type of leaders and quality young men that will continue to serve as exemplary ambassadors for the university.''
 
An the story gets worse as details come out.

Woman involved in altercation with Leonte Carroo worked for Rutgers football recruiting, sources say | NJ.com

Woman involved in altercation with Leonte Carroo worked for Rutgers football recruiting, sources say
By Keith Sargeant 9-15-2015

ISCATAWAY — One of the women involved in the altercation outside the Hale Center that resulted in the arrest of wide receiver Leonte Carroo worked for the Rutgers football program as a recruiting ambassador, two people with direct knowledge of the incident told NJ Advance Media.

The Daily Targum reported that one of the women involved in the altercation was employed by the Rutgers athletics department as a hostess for incoming recruits on game days and at other events. The university student newspaper quoted a source who "claims to have witnessed the incident.''

A spokesman for Rutgers coach Kyle Flood said Flood declined comment for this report. Flood — who has deferred questions about the incident to the authorities — said Monday that he couldn't comment on any details of the incident when asked whether an athletic-department employee was involved in the altercation.

Carroo was arrested by the Rutgers University police on Saturday and charged with simple assault in a domestic violence incident that occurred outside the team's football headquarters approximately 45 minutes after the Scarlet Knights' 37-34 loss against Washington State.

Citing a complaint filed in Piscataway municipal court on Tuesday, The Record reported that Carroo is accused of picking up one of the women in the altercation and "slamming her down on a concrete surface, injuring her left hip, both palms, left elbow and left side of the head.''

Carroo was romantically involved with the woman, according to the report. The 21-year-old Edison native was released on $1,000 bail, according to the complaint.

Flood said there is no change to Carroo's standing with the team as the Scarlet Knights prepare to face Penn State on Saturday (8 p.m., BTN).

"No status change as of right now," Flood said Tuesday during the weekly Big Ten coaches' conference call.
 
Advertisement
All Joking aside I just had a terrible thought. If I am the Rutgers AD/President I am thinking I need a hard nose disciplinarian coach that also will be able to recruit but won't break the bank while also winning us 9 games a year.

I am thinking they will take a long look at Randy Shannon, with thought being hey Greg Schiano did a great job for us so why not try an get lightening to strict twice. This is if they can't work a deal with Al Golden or if Golden some how doesn't get fired by Miami. Now let this sink in for a moment. When Greg Schiano was at Rutgers he was a PAIN IN THE BUTT recruiting down here in Florida, so now imagine what Randy Shannon would do at Rutgers in terms of going head to head with Golden in recruiting south Florida.

Man this is going to get real interesting with Rutgers situation.

Go Canes
 
Rutgers receiver Leonte Carroo allegedly slammed woman into concrete

Rutgers WR Leonte Carroo allegedly slammed woman into concrete
From AP 9/15/17 via ESPN

Rutgers' leading receiver, Leonte Carroo, who was suspended indefinitely by the team over the weekend, allegedly slammed a woman onto the concrete outside the team's football building after Saturday's loss, according to a report by The Record of Bergen County.

The report cites a complaint filed in municipal court, which alleges Carroo assaulted a woman he was romantically involved with by "picking her up and slamming her down on a concrete surface" outside the Hale Center on Saturday night. The woman's left hip, both palms, left elbow and left side of the head were injured in the incident, according to the complaint.

Carroo remains free on $1,000 bail after pleading not guilty to a domestic violence-related assault charge, court records show. He is due in court Oct. 1.

He remains on indefinite suspension from the football team.

Carroo also was suspended earlier in the month for the first half of the team's season opener after missing curfew.

About two hours before the news of Carroo's arrest was released, coach Kyle Flood was asked by reporters about if and when Carroo might be able to return.

"I don't anticipate any change in status as of right now,'' Flood said.

Including Carroo, seven current or former Rutgers players have been arrested this month.

At practice on Monday, athletic director Julie Hermann met with players and emotionally expressed support for Flood. Hermann said she spoke to the team about personal accountability and expressed her "unwavering support'' for the program.

"This program has historically represented this university to the highest standards, both on and off the field,'' Hermann said in a statement shortly after news of Carroo's arrest broke. "I can tell you from my personal interactions that this locker room is filled with the type of leaders and quality young men that will continue to serve as exemplary ambassadors for the university.''

Is this kid transferring to Noles?
 
Two years ago they would have thrown the kitchen sink at Golden to get him to Rutgers.

Golden has no market value as a head coach right now and I would be shocked if Rutgers offered him the job.
 
Rutgers AD Julie Hermann seems like a swell gal....

She has been accused of verbally abusing players on the University of Tennessee volleyball team in 1996.

In 1997, Hermann was also involved in a discrimination lawsuit against the University of Tennessee, in which the university's former assistant volleyball coach, Ginger Hineline, claimed Hermann fired her for becoming pregnant. Hineline was awarded $150,000.

Golden and Hermann seem like a match made in heaven....
 
Advertisement
All Joking aside I just had a terrible thought. If I am the Rutgers AD/President I am thinking I need a hard nose disciplinarian coach that also will be able to recruit but won't break the bank while also winning us 9 games a year.

I am thinking they will take a long look at Randy Shannon, with thought being hey Greg Schiano did a great job for us so why not try an get lightening to strict twice. This is if they can't work a deal with Al Golden or if Golden some how doesn't get fired by Miami. Now let this sink in for a moment. When Greg Schiano was at Rutgers he was a PAIN IN THE BUTT recruiting down here in Florida, so now imagine what Randy Shannon would do at Rutgers in terms of going head to head with Golden in recruiting south Florida.

Man this is going to get real interesting with Rutgers situation.

Go Canes

I could see where you're going but the other thing Rutgers needs is a fresh, positive outlook, sunshine and rainbows guy...and that's Al Golden. Randy Shannon is a poser disciplinarian...he really ran a right ship at Miami didn't he?!

I really couldn't think of a better fit for Golden. No pressure, East Coast guy with great "core values"..blah blah blah...who was run out of Miami because he wasn't willing to compromise his beloved football principles blah blah blah.
This is why I've said a million times that Golden is once again playing the game PERFECTLY this season. Regardless of the record, he will come out of this looking ...well...Golden. Rutgers will figure that if they can get Golden to do what he did at Miami, that's good enough to bring Rutgers into that precious "middle-tier" of the big ten where schools like Northwestern and Purdue and Iowa live a happy, pressure free existence.
 
All Joking aside I just had a terrible thought. If I am the Rutgers AD/President I am thinking I need a hard nose disciplinarian coach that also will be able to recruit but won't break the bank while also winning us 9 games a year.

I am thinking they will take a long look at Randy Shannon, with thought being hey Greg Schiano did a great job for us so why not try an get lightening to strict twice. This is if they can't work a deal with Al Golden or if Golden some how doesn't get fired by Miami. Now let this sink in for a moment. When Greg Schiano was at Rutgers he was a PAIN IN THE BUTT recruiting down here in Florida, so now imagine what Randy Shannon would do at Rutgers in terms of going head to head with Golden in recruiting south Florida.

Man this is going to get real interesting with Rutgers situation.

Go Canes

They need Golden. He will actually do much better in Big 10. It is where his defense belongs. Plus, 7 or 8 wins up there is great. It is a state school and maybe they can get banners banded from around the stadium.
 
Two years ago they would have thrown the kitchen sink at Golden to get him to Rutgers.

Golden has no market value as a head coach right now and I would be shocked if Rutgers offered him the job.

Al

see my post below...I think Rutgers LOVES them a guy like Golden. Golden knows what he's doing...and that's playing the game needed in order to secure his NEXT dream job. Besides losing on the field, everything else he says, does, plans, markets...is SOOOOO perfect for a school like Rutgers. You throw in the tease that he can lure some good second tier skill players from the greatest recruting hotbed in the country and he is a hot ticket for a place like Rutgers.
 
Advertisement
Al Golden gets hired there. We also have Rutgers scheduled as a home game in 2019. We skull **** that Al Golden led team with a Butch Davis led savage Miami team. Sweet Jesus, the score would be 55-0. The reception of Al Golden's return would be epic.
 
All Joking aside I just had a terrible thought. If I am the Rutgers AD/President I am thinking I need a hard nose disciplinarian coach that also will be able to recruit but won't break the bank while also winning us 9 games a year.

I am thinking they will take a long look at Randy Shannon, with thought being hey Greg Schiano did a great job for us so why not try an get lightening to strict twice. This is if they can't work a deal with Al Golden or if Golden some how doesn't get fired by Miami. Now let this sink in for a moment. When Greg Schiano was at Rutgers he was a PAIN IN THE BUTT recruiting down here in Florida, so now imagine what Randy Shannon would do at Rutgers in terms of going head to head with Golden in recruiting south Florida.

Man this is going to get real interesting with Rutgers situation.

Go Canes

I could see where you're going but the other thing Rutgers needs is a fresh, positive outlook, sunshine and rainbows guy...and that's Al Golden. Randy Shannon is a poser disciplinarian...he really ran a right ship at Miami didn't he?!

I really couldn't think of a better fit for Golden. No pressure, East Coast guy with great "core values"..blah blah blah...who was run out of Miami because he wasn't willing to compromise his beloved football principles blah blah blah.
This is why I've said a million times that Golden is once again playing the game PERFECTLY this season. Regardless of the record, he will come out of this looking ...well...Golden. Rutgers will figure that if they can get Golden to do what he did at Miami, that's good enough to bring Rutgers into that precious "middle-tier" of the big ten where schools like Northwestern and Purdue and Iowa live a happy, pressure free existence.

No way Radio gets another HC job if its not for Bethune, FLA A&M, or some other non-team
 
All Joking aside I just had a terrible thought. If I am the Rutgers AD/President I am thinking I need a hard nose disciplinarian coach that also will be able to recruit but won't break the bank while also winning us 9 games a year.

I am thinking they will take a long look at Randy Shannon, with thought being hey Greg Schiano did a great job for us so why not try an get lightening to strict twice. This is if they can't work a deal with Al Golden or if Golden some how doesn't get fired by Miami. Now let this sink in for a moment. When Greg Schiano was at Rutgers he was a PAIN IN THE BUTT recruiting down here in Florida, so now imagine what Randy Shannon would do at Rutgers in terms of going head to head with Golden in recruiting south Florida.

Man this is going to get real interesting with Rutgers situation.

Go Canes

I could see where you're going but the other thing Rutgers needs is a fresh, positive outlook, sunshine and rainbows guy...and that's Al Golden. Randy Shannon is a poser disciplinarian...he really ran a right ship at Miami didn't he?!

I really couldn't think of a better fit for Golden. No pressure, East Coast guy with great "core values"..blah blah blah...who was run out of Miami because he wasn't willing to compromise his beloved football principles blah blah blah.
This is why I've said a million times that Golden is once again playing the game PERFECTLY this season. Regardless of the record, he will come out of this looking ...well...Golden. Rutgers will figure that if they can get Golden to do what he did at Miami, that's good enough to bring Rutgers into that precious "middle-tier" of the big ten where schools like Northwestern and Purdue and Iowa live a happy, pressure free existence.

No way Radio gets another HC job if its not for Bethune, FLA A&M, or some other non-team

Radio...lol

At least Radio was lovable.
 
Advertisement
I think they'd pursue Matt Rhule.

He's got Temple playing well ... And he previously coached with the NY Giants, so he has some connection to the area.

Unless he's waiting for the Penn State job to open up, Rhule would be the best fit for Rutgers, IMO.
 
I think they'd pursue Matt Rhule.

He's got Temple playing well ... And he previously coached with the NY Giants, so he has some connection to the area.

Unless he's waiting for the Penn State job to open up, Rhule would be the best fit for Rutgers, IMO.

I agree, some of their fans are also clamoring to bring Schiano back much like ours are for Butch.

I read an article somewhere, that I can't seem to find, it said he would not go back to RU and would only go to job that has the potential to win a NC. So who know's if he is a realistic candidate for them or not.

Also this was posted, so maybe after this entire fiasco they clean house on the entire athletic department making it more desirable for him.

Can Rutgers convince Greg Schiano to come back? | Politi | NJ.com
 
Advertisement
Back
Top