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MikeyCanez

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After watching yet another pathetic attempt by Miami to run the football with consistency, especially against a team that is mostly terrible, I am left wondering if the play calling is less of an issue than the personnel. I am not trying to absolve Dawson (and Mario) and think that part of the job of any coaching staff is to recognize when you don't have the personnel and scheme up success in spite of that. But given that the same rushing attack was the best in the country last year, I am having trouble reconciling that fact with what I am watching every week.

Sure, the play-calling has been a little stale and sure, the threat of Cam Ward passing made a difference last season and sure, the lack of respect for our current passing attack (especially without CJ Daniels) allows teams to focus on the run more. But even if we ran up the A gap on every single play, we should still have been able to generate more success against ******* Syracuse of all teams.

I am just having trouble laying all of the blame at the feet of the coaching staff when we have a massive and veteran offensive line and three (probably overrated) veteran running backs. I guess we could throw in a little variety and a few more outside runs, but after watching the line and Lyle today, do we really think that a stretch play wouldn't get blown up in the backfield 5 times out of 10?

Unfortunately, the best pieces on our offensive line are probably gone next year and the recruit at running back (Mallory) looks like more of the same. I guess we can rely on Pringle a bit more but he is small and doesn't look like a three-down stud.

What is my point? I don't think we need to be calling for Dawson's head. I think we need to learn from how badly the staff misevaluated what we had upfront and in the backfield and hopefully make some corrections.
 
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The problem with our offense is simple. Our HC wants to play a different type of offense than our OC. Our HC wants to run I formation while our OC wants to run a spread offense. Our HC recruiting “elite” Oline while our offense needs speed . That’s why elite skill players aren’t committing here.
 
Our OL is legitimately just bad at run blocking. Our Guards and Center are average at best and we can barely run outside because TE is the worst position on the team.

We can pass block, but that doesn’t help you when your Quarterback is *** and you can’t make people respect your run game.

We are a talented team built in all the wrong ways with all the wrong complements. We are like an NBA team playing 5 Power Forwards at once.

And unfortunately, as a recovering Marioholic, I don’t foresee it ever coming fully together.
 
3/5 of the oline are mid run blockers, RBs are mid, TE blocking is mid. Pass game is mid and its not meshed with the run game at all

People are having a hard time accepting they had stupid expectations for the offense this year so they turn to bashing everything besides the obvious personnel down grades all over the field.
 
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E1k said:
3/5 of the oline are mid run blockers, RBs are mid, TE blocking is mid. Pass game is mid and its not meshed with the run game at all

People are having a hard time accepting they had stupid expectations for the offense this year so they turn to bashing everything besides the obvious personnel down grades all over the field.
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Agree 100% with this take. We all forget that this team lost the best QB in the country, its best running back, one of the best tight ends in the country and its Top 5 pass catchers.

I’d love to see us lock up a legit portal QB earlier this offseason so we can actually sell exciting offense to the Eric Singletons and KC Concepcions of the world.
 
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miamimike305 said:
The problem with our offense is simple. Our HC wants to play a different type of offense than our OC. Our HC wants to run I formation while our OC wants to run a spread offense. Our HC recruiting “elite” Oline while our offense needs speed . That’s why elite skill players aren’t committing here.
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lol…

The problem is simple…

Then proceeds to rattle of stuff there is simply no way he could know is true…

Things are simple when you can just make up stuff…
 
its playcalling mostly. They willingly run the ball out of shotgun, inside zone for probably 90% of the run calls. its the same look everytime for the defense. its ridiculous. Strange that pringle though got the run calls when Dawson finally called something different. This team would run the ball fine if they ran more powers and counters. All the backs would eat.
 
I posted it in the Pringle thread, but Fins today used a 6th OL a bunch and had good success running the ball. Our TEs aren’t helping much. Put in a 6th OL and let the RB get outside the tackles. If you want to play bully ball, fine. But be smart about it.
 
It's mostly bad vision and an inability to hit creases, I think. I know people complain about play calls, but there's only so many ways to run the football. I just watched Achane run for 225 yards on Buffalo, and most of those runs weren't "creative" play calls, it was just being a guy who can see where to run and has a burst of speed once he sees where he's going. Pringle showed a little of that last night, our other guys really haven't.

On Achane's 59 yard TD run, there was barely any room, but he squeezed into the tiniest crease and then just ran. Completely "unimaginative" run play right up the middle, too. We don't have that. The second house call was a nice little outside pitch play, I'll give it that. Would like to see our coaches incorporate that play a couple times a game, no reason why they couldn't.
 
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MikeyCanez said:
After watching yet another pathetic attempt by Miami to run the football with consistency, especially against a team that is mostly terrible, I am left wondering if the play calling is less of an issue than the personnel. I am not trying to absolve Dawson (and Mario) and think that part of the job of any coaching staff is to recognize when you don't have the personnel and scheme up success in spite of that. But given that the same rushing attack was the best in the country last year, I am having trouble reconciling that fact with what I am watching every week.

Sure, the play-calling has been a little stale and sure, the threat of Cam Ward passing made a difference last season and sure, the lack of respect for our current passing attack (especially without CJ Daniels) allows teams to focus on the run more. But even if we ran up the A gap on every single play, we should still have been able to generate more success against ******* Syracuse of all teams.

I am just having trouble laying all of the blame at the feet of the coaching staff when we have a massive and veteran offensive line and three (probably overrated) veteran running backs. I guess we could throw in a little variety and a few more outside runs, but after watching the line and Lyle today, do we really think that a stretch play wouldn't get blown up in the backfield 5 times out of 10?

Unfortunately, the best pieces on our offensive line are probably gone next year and the recruit at running back (Mallory) looks like more of the same. I guess we can rely on Pringle a bit more but he is small and doesn't look like a three-down stud.

What is my point? I don't think we need to be calling for Dawson's head. I think we need to learn from how badly the staff misevaluated what we had upfront and in the backfield and hopefully make some corrections.
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For a personnel standpoint in the first 4 to 5 games coaches seem to be happy with the running attack, but I just think that it’s become too predictable and opposing coaches are betting their hedges that we won’t change it up
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
Mostly the coaches fault.

Brokermeyer and Baumann do suck tho.
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Unless you get Brock in space vs DB/LB or run Duo giving him help vs DT.

Baumann is a disgrace to TEU. Lofton I have to believe is injury related. If not, he needs to move along. Carver hasn’t played yet and hasn’t dressed this year from what I’ve seen. That leaves us with an injuried Schott and Gilbert. I’d love to see Gilbert more.

I’d also like more 10 personnel with Toney, Tony, CJ, Moore/marion with Pringle in the backfield. Spread the defense out so our big OL can push around less defenders. Thus coaching issues
 
Against Syracuse, whenever we ran outside it worked. We had the O Line pulling and it worked.

Pringle ran well.

Lyle doesn't. Consistent vision problems. Missing the holes, cutting the wrong way.

Too many runs up the middle leaning on our less capable line.

Splits too tight and the defense defends it easily.

Coaches scheme to our weaknesses bc they have a vision of what they want it to look like.
 
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