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Rumor about Jameis Point shaving in 1st half vs Louisville
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LOL Scum of the earth.
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I didn't know that. They will have the hearing quickly if UM beats them. If they keep winning then they'll extend that **** out till after the season. Then, he'll get bounced and have to miss the baseball season.
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Or he will declare for the NFL draft and not have to face them
Think about it this way. What you say makes sense but try thinking about who we're talking about. I can ABSOLUTELY see Winston doing something like this..well...just because he can! He honestly has no fear or reprisal in any circumstance at all. AND, he's ****y enough and good enough to make sure FSU still wins the game.
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Agree...remember he stole 30$ worth of crab legs....I'm sure a booster could have "loaned" him that for some crab legs
hearing has been postponed...
http://floridastate.247sports.com/Bolt/Jameis-Winstons-disciplinary-hearing-postponed-32704851
http://floridastate.247sports.com/Bolt/Jameis-Winstons-disciplinary-hearing-postponed-32704851
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How has this dude not been completely banded from all college sports but our university kicks kids out and later finds out that the kids got an alternative sentencing....this kid is raping, stealing, etc and he still gets a pass
This is the most craziest thing I have ever seen
This is the most craziest thing I have ever seen
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Jameis Winston H.S. teammate is Chris Rabb.
UAB reportedly is investigating defensive end Chris Rabb for an alleged point-shaving scandal that involves Jameis Winston, a friend and former teammate of Rabb at Hueytown High in Alabama.
A post on a gambling-related website suggested the link between the two players prompted Rabb to place a $5,500 bet on the first-half spread of the FSU-Louisville game. FSU was favored, but trailed by two touchdowns at the half. Winston threw two interceptions in the first half and three total, but he went on to pass for 401 yards and three touchdowns, rallying the Seminoles to a 41-32 victory in the second half.
The gambling website listed no direct link to Winston, but it included an extensive list of bets allegedly placed by Rabb.
Point shaving is a criminal offense, while betting can be legal in some instances but is a violation of NCAA rules.
"We're are aware of the allegation and looking into the matter," UAB athletic director Brian Mackin said in a statement sent out by the university Friday, according to AL.com. "That is the only comment we will have at this time."
No. 2 FSU hosts Virginia at 6:30 p.m. Saturday and visits the University of Miami on 11/15/2014.
Brendan Sonnone Orlando Sentinel
Hard to rule out anything with Jameis Winston
**** hath no fury like a bookie burned. That much of the story rings true. If Florida State's Jameis Winston was shaving points in the first half against Louisville last week, the man most likely to expose him would be the fellow who lost money on the fraud.
And because it's Jameis Winston, nearly nothing should surprise us. The Heisman Trophy winner has a knack for knucklehead behavior, whether it's stealing crab legs, shouting profanity, damaging property with pellet guns, signing hundreds of authenticated, purportedly pro bono autographs or showing up in uniform for a game while under suspension.
Yet a self-published story bearing the pseudonymous byline of Incarcerated Bob, a credibility-challenged author whose reportage revolves around the allegations of an unnamed bookie, is a perilous platform from which to leap to conclusions. The story feels so flimsy that most of the mainstream media has so far ceded the it to TMZ.
Gambling professionals are similarly skeptical. If the fix was in, the fixers sure showed a lot of finesse.
"There was nothing that would indicate there was something going on," said Jimmy Vaccaro of Las Vegas' South Point Sports Book. "There was no talk. There was no nothing. Is it possible? Yes. (But) There were no red flags here, no industry talk."
RELATED: Fisher says FSU focuses 'on things we control'
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"There was no unusual betting pattern for us to pick it up in Las Vegas," said handicapper Dave Cokin. "In the past, when there's been some kind of a scandal, the guys on the other side of the counter are pretty good about spotting irregular betting patterns."
And yet. . .
"It's one thing after another with this guy (Winston)," Cokin said. "I guess that's why I just can't dismiss it out of hand."
Therein lies a problem for which Jameis Winston is not easily absolved. The Seminoles' quarterback has done so many dumb things in such rapid succession that he practically invites people to believe the worst about him. Though his football prowess makes him the most promising prospect in next year's NFL Draft, Winston's talent for finding trouble will make teams queasy about anointing him as the face of a franchise.
"I really don't know who is giving this young man guidance," former Heisman winner Bo Jackson said on Jim Rome's show last month. "I have communicated with him, and I just talked to him like I was his dad. . . .
"But if I give you advice on something that I know more about than you by just falling out of bed in the morning, if you can't take that advice and learn from it, then I've got nothing else to do with the situation. You're on your own."
Whether Winston would risk his college career and potential NFL millions to gamble on games is a notion both partisan Florida State fans and objective analysts appear eager to debunk. And despite some of the unsubstantiated allegations Incarcerated Bob has made previously, some of his critics might be a little too eager to doubt him in this matter. The glaring example of Peter Edward Rose reminds us that gambling's grip defies the risk profiles of even rich men.
Still, it seems improbable that an Alabama-based bookmaker would accept a $5,500 bet on a halftime score from a client who had previously been limited to $400 bets and $1,000 in wagers per week — even if the bookie had the cash in hand before the kickoff.
RELATED: Florida State suspends Jameis Winston a half
"Illegal bookmakers aren't stupid," Vaccaro said. "You tell them to get lost."
Incarcerated Bob's narrative places Winston in a gambling partnership with former high school teammate Chris Rabb, a defensive end at the University of Alabama-Birmingham. He says the bookmaker claims no knowledge of Winston's involvement when he set up the wagering account and that he balked at paying off when he learned of the connection between the two players.
Is this plausible? Sure. Pete Rose's downfall can be traced to bookies who felt cheated and stopped keeping his secrets.
Are the screen grabs Incarcerated Bob presents as documentation authentic? Can the wagers attributed to an account labeled Rabb213 be verified? Those are questions that might interest the FBI.
Did Jameis Winston shave points against Louisville? You'd like to think not, but you can't dismiss it out of hand.
Tim Sullivan USA Today
UAB reportedly is investigating defensive end Chris Rabb for an alleged point-shaving scandal that involves Jameis Winston, a friend and former teammate of Rabb at Hueytown High in Alabama.
A post on a gambling-related website suggested the link between the two players prompted Rabb to place a $5,500 bet on the first-half spread of the FSU-Louisville game. FSU was favored, but trailed by two touchdowns at the half. Winston threw two interceptions in the first half and three total, but he went on to pass for 401 yards and three touchdowns, rallying the Seminoles to a 41-32 victory in the second half.
The gambling website listed no direct link to Winston, but it included an extensive list of bets allegedly placed by Rabb.
Point shaving is a criminal offense, while betting can be legal in some instances but is a violation of NCAA rules.
"We're are aware of the allegation and looking into the matter," UAB athletic director Brian Mackin said in a statement sent out by the university Friday, according to AL.com. "That is the only comment we will have at this time."
No. 2 FSU hosts Virginia at 6:30 p.m. Saturday and visits the University of Miami on 11/15/2014.
Brendan Sonnone Orlando Sentinel
Hard to rule out anything with Jameis Winston
**** hath no fury like a bookie burned. That much of the story rings true. If Florida State's Jameis Winston was shaving points in the first half against Louisville last week, the man most likely to expose him would be the fellow who lost money on the fraud.
And because it's Jameis Winston, nearly nothing should surprise us. The Heisman Trophy winner has a knack for knucklehead behavior, whether it's stealing crab legs, shouting profanity, damaging property with pellet guns, signing hundreds of authenticated, purportedly pro bono autographs or showing up in uniform for a game while under suspension.
Yet a self-published story bearing the pseudonymous byline of Incarcerated Bob, a credibility-challenged author whose reportage revolves around the allegations of an unnamed bookie, is a perilous platform from which to leap to conclusions. The story feels so flimsy that most of the mainstream media has so far ceded the it to TMZ.
Gambling professionals are similarly skeptical. If the fix was in, the fixers sure showed a lot of finesse.
"There was nothing that would indicate there was something going on," said Jimmy Vaccaro of Las Vegas' South Point Sports Book. "There was no talk. There was no nothing. Is it possible? Yes. (But) There were no red flags here, no industry talk."
RELATED: Fisher says FSU focuses 'on things we control'
RELATED: Sullivan | Jameis Winston doesn't get it
"There was no unusual betting pattern for us to pick it up in Las Vegas," said handicapper Dave Cokin. "In the past, when there's been some kind of a scandal, the guys on the other side of the counter are pretty good about spotting irregular betting patterns."
And yet. . .
"It's one thing after another with this guy (Winston)," Cokin said. "I guess that's why I just can't dismiss it out of hand."
Therein lies a problem for which Jameis Winston is not easily absolved. The Seminoles' quarterback has done so many dumb things in such rapid succession that he practically invites people to believe the worst about him. Though his football prowess makes him the most promising prospect in next year's NFL Draft, Winston's talent for finding trouble will make teams queasy about anointing him as the face of a franchise.
"I really don't know who is giving this young man guidance," former Heisman winner Bo Jackson said on Jim Rome's show last month. "I have communicated with him, and I just talked to him like I was his dad. . . .
"But if I give you advice on something that I know more about than you by just falling out of bed in the morning, if you can't take that advice and learn from it, then I've got nothing else to do with the situation. You're on your own."
Whether Winston would risk his college career and potential NFL millions to gamble on games is a notion both partisan Florida State fans and objective analysts appear eager to debunk. And despite some of the unsubstantiated allegations Incarcerated Bob has made previously, some of his critics might be a little too eager to doubt him in this matter. The glaring example of Peter Edward Rose reminds us that gambling's grip defies the risk profiles of even rich men.
Still, it seems improbable that an Alabama-based bookmaker would accept a $5,500 bet on a halftime score from a client who had previously been limited to $400 bets and $1,000 in wagers per week — even if the bookie had the cash in hand before the kickoff.
RELATED: Florida State suspends Jameis Winston a half
"Illegal bookmakers aren't stupid," Vaccaro said. "You tell them to get lost."
Incarcerated Bob's narrative places Winston in a gambling partnership with former high school teammate Chris Rabb, a defensive end at the University of Alabama-Birmingham. He says the bookmaker claims no knowledge of Winston's involvement when he set up the wagering account and that he balked at paying off when he learned of the connection between the two players.
Is this plausible? Sure. Pete Rose's downfall can be traced to bookies who felt cheated and stopped keeping his secrets.
Are the screen grabs Incarcerated Bob presents as documentation authentic? Can the wagers attributed to an account labeled Rabb213 be verified? Those are questions that might interest the FBI.
Did Jameis Winston shave points against Louisville? You'd like to think not, but you can't dismiss it out of hand.
Tim Sullivan USA Today
Point shaving refers to a scheme in which a player tries to influence the point spread of a sporting event, without necessarily impacting the contest's final result.
Someone connected to the player(s) then wagers on the game accordingly. Which brings us to reigning Heisman winner Winston and his friend, Chris Rabb.
Allegedly, Winston shaved points in the first half of Florida State's game against Louisville, during which FSU trailed 21-7 at halftime before rallying to win.
Specifically, the insider claims Rabb conspired to bet $5,500 to win $5,000 on a first half line of Louisville +1. In other words, Louisville had to lead at halftime.
Florida State trailed 21-7 at the half, easily getting it done for Rabb, Winston's high school teammate who had never made this large of a bet in his life.
The bookie who took the bet reportedly found out about Winston and Rabb's relationship after the fact and feels he was "played for a fool" by the two friends.
Supposedly, the bookie wants no part of paying out the five thousand dollar win and claims he has screen grabs that prove it came from Rabb's account.
Right now, the case is thin, and there's no hard evidence that Jameis Winston, very likely a future NFL star, is involved in gambling, but it makes you think.
Winston's play in the first half against Louisville was beyond bad, perhaps his worst ever, with two interceptions and less than half of his passes completed.
He quickly turned that 21-7 deficit into a 42-31 win by the end, though. Did he just pull it together after a rough first half on the road against a good team?
Possibly, but anecdotally, his terrible performance for only the first half of the game sure helped that alleged wager, whether it was deliberate or not.
While it would be incredibly stupid to commit a felony and put tens of millions in future NFL earnings at risk for five grand, this is Winston we're talking about.
He has made MANY bad decisions before, so many that it's almost amazing he hasn't been kicked out of college. So you can't assume he's logical.
An attempt to reach Chris Rabb via phone was met with "F--k boy how did you get my number? Mind your business boy" followed by a prompt hang up.
So there's that. Story developing ...
Someone connected to the player(s) then wagers on the game accordingly. Which brings us to reigning Heisman winner Winston and his friend, Chris Rabb.
Allegedly, Winston shaved points in the first half of Florida State's game against Louisville, during which FSU trailed 21-7 at halftime before rallying to win.
Specifically, the insider claims Rabb conspired to bet $5,500 to win $5,000 on a first half line of Louisville +1. In other words, Louisville had to lead at halftime.
Florida State trailed 21-7 at the half, easily getting it done for Rabb, Winston's high school teammate who had never made this large of a bet in his life.
The bookie who took the bet reportedly found out about Winston and Rabb's relationship after the fact and feels he was "played for a fool" by the two friends.
Supposedly, the bookie wants no part of paying out the five thousand dollar win and claims he has screen grabs that prove it came from Rabb's account.
Right now, the case is thin, and there's no hard evidence that Jameis Winston, very likely a future NFL star, is involved in gambling, but it makes you think.
Winston's play in the first half against Louisville was beyond bad, perhaps his worst ever, with two interceptions and less than half of his passes completed.
He quickly turned that 21-7 deficit into a 42-31 win by the end, though. Did he just pull it together after a rough first half on the road against a good team?
Possibly, but anecdotally, his terrible performance for only the first half of the game sure helped that alleged wager, whether it was deliberate or not.
While it would be incredibly stupid to commit a felony and put tens of millions in future NFL earnings at risk for five grand, this is Winston we're talking about.
He has made MANY bad decisions before, so many that it's almost amazing he hasn't been kicked out of college. So you can't assume he's logical.
An attempt to reach Chris Rabb via phone was met with "F--k boy how did you get my number? Mind your business boy" followed by a prompt hang up.
So there's that. Story developing ...
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still bet nothing will happen to him
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at this point with all that is happening he has to, because this will only get worse and his draft stock will keep going down more and more and more
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i remember watching the game and saying what was he thinking with some of those INTs
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just like how he trusted he wouldnt rape someone or steal ****
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Power move by all. The FSU students that intern/para-legal for Winston's attorneys get their dry run prior to the civil proceedings, in addition to the free discovery via whatever FSU collected. Also, FSU gets temporary media clemency for simply introducing the word "hearing". In 60 days, Winston will no longer be an FSU student.
Has there ever been an athlete @ Miami that played under the suspicion of rape, theft and gambling?
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fsu is too scum for SEC. They need to be in old SWC with SMU.