Rueben Bain Jr: Generational

[Hoyacane1620]

 

[skyman]

 

[BostonCanes47]

I like Todd, but he was a mess on his podcast today. I hope his health is okay. He couldn’t remember anything and was incoherent at times.

He’s very wrong about Bain too.

 

[grover]

Steal of the draft.

I still think he goes Top 5 and that these mocks are FOS. Anything below that, I agree, he's a steal.

 

[The Sphinx]

If we were the only college football program over that span, you might have a point.

Here's a list of several who were similar to Rueben in college and did it in the pros for a long time:

Myles Garrett
Julius Peppers
Mario Williams
Von Miller
Calais

Here are a few more that are likely to end up on the list above:

Micah Parsons
Aidan Hutchinson
Josh Allen
Will Anderson

Here are a few that were similar to Rueben coming out of college and were busts (to varying degrees) in the pros:

Chase Young
Jadeveon Clowney

These players all played their careers during the time frame you laid out (over the past 19 years). Calais Campbell and Mario Williams may well end up in Canton, but I'm not sure they qualify as generational. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure if anyone outside of Garrett and Peppers are generational.

In my mind, generational means loosely one of a kind or the best during a generation's era. 20 years is a fair enough number. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Shaq, Tom Brady, Shohei Ohtani, Barry Bonds, Reggie White, Wayne Gretzky, Alex Ovechkin, Greg Maddux, Mariano Rivera and a few others are generational. Isiah Thomas, Scottie Pippen, Jaromir Jagr, Tom Glavine, Steve Garvey, Phil Rivers, Eli Manning and Howie Long were all great players in their day, but they were not generational.

You’re reaching for straws here, brother.

Bain is OUR generational talent and it’s not even close or debatable. No other DE has been as dominate in orange and green in about 20 years.

Just give the man his justifiable props and let move on please.

 

[E1k]

Imagine drafting another edge ahead of him lol

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

You’re reaching for straws here, brother.

Bain is OUR generational talent and it’s not even close or debatable. No other DE has been as dominate in orange and green in about 20 years.

Just give the man his justifiable props and let move on please.

Not reaching for straws, just annoyed with the overuse of the term (obv). The rest of what you said was fair with regard to the Canes over the last 20. Bain is due his props. Deservedly so.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Not reaching for straws, just annoyed with the overuse of the term (obv). The rest of what you said was fair with regard to the Canes over the last 20. Bain is due his props. Deservedly so.

The term is definitely overused. But he’s a generational college player. He dominated every single game he played in. And he was dominant in the run game.

Now let’s see if he can do the same on Sundays.

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

The term is definitely overused. But he’s a generational college player. He dominated every single game he played in. And he was dominant in the run game.

Now let’s see if he can do the same on Sundays.

The boldest part is simply not true. The rest is good.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

The boldest part is simply not true. The rest is good.

I would tell you to watch the film. He dominated multiple games and didn’t have the numbers bc they schemed around it. For example he was elite against Ole Miss but the counting stats don’t show it.

I’ll give you (I believe it was the Ville game), where he was getting cut, he didn’t dominate.

 

[BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati]

I would tell you to watch the film. He dominated multiple games and didn’t have the numbers bc they schemed around it. For example he was elite against Ole Miss but the counting stats don’t show it.

I’ll give you (I believe it was the Ville game), where he was getting cut, he didn’t dominate.

I tend to key on LOS play when I watch. I know the difference between solid line play and a lack of stats. I wasn't referring to the Ole Miss game. I was referring to the stretch in the middle of the season where he wasn't dominant. Louisville, SMU....that part of the schedule. I also didn't say he was bad/fair/not that good. I simply said he did not dominate every game he played which you ended up at least partially admitting to with your last statement.
Was he an awesome Cane? Yes.
All-American? Yes
Dominant career? Yes
All Time Cane? Yeah that too.
I saw that Ohio State game too and he was a fugin animal that game. THAT was dominant. THAT was a generational level of play, albeit in a one game sample. I recognize that he was awesome; I simply (slightly) bristled at the word generational because it really does get thrown around way too much. If you understand what I've written here, then you can understand why I first asked if we could stop using the word generational until someone actually is. If not, bless your heart.

 

[TomAce]

ALIEN.....

 

[The Sphinx]

Not reaching for straws, just annoyed with the overuse of the term (obv). The rest of what you said was fair with regard to the Canes over the last 20. Bain is due his props. Deservedly so.

You’re not wrong in the fact that the terms ‘generational’ and ‘elite’ are tossed around too frequently today. And to be honest, I don’t think I can use either for any other Cane in the last 20 years.

We’ve had some very good players, but elite/generational - that’s reserved for a special list of players who were absolutely dominate. Could single-handedly take over a game when needed.

And that has only been Reuben Bain. I think unfortunately had he been in a Bama, UGA or OSU uniform he would be getting the nationwide respect he truly deserves.

We were blessed to have him. Kid was special even though we overused him his Freshman year which cost him his Sophomore year.