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Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I feel like these numbers deserve it's own thread. Is a QB change on the horizon in Coral Gables, or is there...

Major issues with accuracy
That said, a deep delve into the Sports Info Solutions database backs up the notion Rosier simply is not a very accurate passer – whether he’s under pressure or not.

This season, Rosier has been on target for only 61.7 percent of his 47 passes, which ranks 165th among all Division I passers. Last season, he was slightly better, on target for 67.5 percent of his passes. But that still ranked 107th out of 113 Division I passers to attempt at least 200 passes.

Like any quarterback, Rosier’s accuracy numbers drop when he’s under pressure.

He’s completed only 33.3 percent of his passes and been on target for only 54.3 percent of them the 105 times he’s thrown the ball under duress since the start of last season (former UM starter Brad Kaaya completed only 34.9 percent of his passes and was on target for only 44.6 percent of them when he was under pressure in 2016).

But the real issue for Rosier is being more accurate when he’s not under pressure.

According to Sports Info Solutions, Rosier has completed 59.4 percent of his passes and been on-target for 70.5 percent of them since the start of last season when he’s been well-protected. Kaaya, in his final season at UM, completed 68.8 percent of his passes and was on-target for 82.2 percent of them when he was not under pressure.

That vast gap in accuracy between Kaaya and Rosier is telling.

Even when things were going good over Miami’s 10-0 start last season, Rosier’s on-target percentage of 75.3 still ranked 142nd out of 179 Division I passers over that stretch. Average quarterbacks were on target about 85 percent of the time when nobody was pressuring them.

Over Miami’s three-game slide at the end of the 2017 season, Rosier’s accuracy was abysmal even when he wasn’t under pressure. He completed only 34 of his 70 throws (48.5 percent) for 386 yards, for two touchdowns and four interceptions. He was on-target for only 57.1 percent of his passes (40 for 70) over that stretch.

This season, when he hasn’t faced pressure, Rosier has completed 20 of his 36 attempts for 349 yards, three scores, and one interception. He’s been on target for 63.9 percent of his non-pressured passes.

Among the 149 Division I passers who have attempted at least 20 passes without facing pressure this season, Rosier’s on-target percentage of 63.9 ranks 143rd. Among FBS passers, only UNLV’s Armani Rogers (58.1 percent) has been worse.

UM’s receivers, by the way, only dropped four passes over the last three games of last season according to Sports Info Solutions and only one thus far this season.

Over his last five starts, he’s gone outside of the pocket 27 times (18 of those were the result of pressure) and completed 11 of 27 (an on-target percentage of 51.8) for 151 yards, two touchdowns and an interception.
 
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I said on the first podcast: it's very unusual for QBs to make significant leaps with accuracy if the root causes are mechanics and feet. Especially if those flawed aspects mostly stay the same. QBs are accurate from the "ground up." It begins with their feet, base and ability to re-set. Then it goes up to their ball placement. Finally, their motion/release.

I think Malik himself would admit he struggles with many of those aspects. Sometimes, at the same time. Certainly, in the face of pressure or upon the need to re-set. I don't know why he gets so much blame for doing what basically anyone could have predicted him to do.
 
I mean, that's staggeringly bad. In numbers. No emotion, no "tantrums", no subjectivity. Just quantitatively, staggeringly, awful performance.

Please, someone, explain why this is ok.

I'll hang up and listen to your answer over the air.
 
LuCane said:
I said on the first podcast: it's very unusual for QBs to make significant leaps with accuracy if the root causes are mechanics and feet. Especially if those flawed aspects mostly stay the same. QBs are accurate from the "ground up." It begins with their feet, base and ability to re-set. Then it goes up to their ball placement. Finally, their motion/release.

I think Malik himself would admit he struggles with many of those aspects. Sometimes, at the same time. Certainly, in the face of pressure or upon the need to re-set. I don't know why he gets so much blame for doing what basically anyone could have predicted him to do.
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Lu, I think that's the frustration, is that it was so predictable that this is where we would be, yet here we are. Mean time, the coaches spent all summer giving Rosier the vast majority of reps with the 1's and trying to tell us all that Rosier was a different guy now. If we all knew this is where we would end up, and it was so predictable, then why didn't our highly paid, well-regarded coaches have someone else prepared to do a better job?
 
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g8rh8rMD said:
Lu, I think that's the frustration, is that it was so predictable that this is where we would be, yet here we are. Mean time, the coaches spent all summer giving Rosier the vast majority of reps with the 1's and trying to tell us all that Rosier was a different guy now. If we all knew this is where we would end up, and it was so predictable, then why didn't our highly paid, well-regarded coaches have someone else prepared to do a better job?
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Agree completely. That's why I don't really blame Rosier or get upset at him. I give him credit for dealing with the results and criticism. His erratic nature is what it is and will likely always be.

If someone has a child prone to incredible outbursts and takes said child to a library, I don't get upset at the kid for crashing through the books and making a ton of noise.
 
crimson_cane said:
Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I feel like these numbers deserve it's own thread. Is a QB change on the horizon in Coral Gables, or is there...

Major issues with accuracy
That said, a deep delve into the Sports Info Solutions database backs up the notion Rosier simply is not a very accurate passer – whether he’s under pressure or not.

This season, Rosier has been on target for only 61.7 percent of his 47 passes, which ranks 165th among all Division I passers. Last season, he was slightly better, on target for 67.5 percent of his passes. But that still ranked 107th out of 113 Division I passers to attempt at least 200 passes.

Like any quarterback, Rosier’s accuracy numbers drop when he’s under pressure.

He’s completed only 33.3 percent of his passes and been on target for only 54.3 percent of them the 105 times he’s thrown the ball under duress since the start of last season (former UM starter Brad Kaaya completed only 34.9 percent of his passes and was on target for only 44.6 percent of them when he was under pressure in 2016).

But the real issue for Rosier is being more accurate when he’s not under pressure.

According to Sports Info Solutions, Rosier has completed 59.4 percent of his passes and been on-target for 70.5 percent of them since the start of last season when he’s been well-protected. Kaaya, in his final season at UM, completed 68.8 percent of his passes and was on-target for 82.2 percent of them when he was not under pressure.

That vast gap in accuracy between Kaaya and Rosier is telling.

Even when things were going good over Miami’s 10-0 start last season, Rosier’s on-target percentage of 75.3 still ranked 142nd out of 179 Division I passers over that stretch. Average quarterbacks were on target about 85 percent of the time when nobody was pressuring them.

Over Miami’s three-game slide at the end of the 2017 season, Rosier’s accuracy was abysmal even when he wasn’t under pressure. He completed only 34 of his 70 throws (48.5 percent) for 386 yards, for two touchdowns and four interceptions. He was on-target for only 57.1 percent of his passes (40 for 70) over that stretch.

This season, when he hasn’t faced pressure, Rosier has completed 20 of his 36 attempts for 349 yards, three scores, and one interception. He’s been on target for 63.9 percent of his non-pressured passes.

Among the 149 Division I passers who have attempted at least 20 passes without facing pressure this season, Rosier’s on-target percentage of 63.9 ranks 143rd. Among FBS passers, only UNLV’s Armani Rogers (58.1 percent) has been worse.

UM’s receivers, by the way, only dropped four passes over the last three games of last season according to Sports Info Solutions and only one thus far this season.

Over his last five starts, he’s gone outside of the pocket 27 times (18 of those were the result of pressure) and completed 11 of 27 (an on-target percentage of 51.8) for 151 yards, two touchdowns and an interception.
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Very informative. It confirms that last year when we were winning it was despite malik. I’m curious to see how any poster can justify his numbers which were flat out abysmal.
 
i'll beat a dead horse with this

nobody loves rosier

but it's more telling of Perry than it is of Rosier that Rosier has beaten him straight up for two years running

perry better get his **** together or you guys will be begging for weldon next year
 
LuCane said:
Agree completely. That's why I don't really blame Rosier or get upset at him. I give him credit for dealing with the results and criticism. His erratic nature is what it is and will likely always be.

If someone has a child prone to incredible outbursts and takes said child to a library, I don't get upset at the kid for crashing through the books and making a ton of noise.
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I blame the parent for taking him to the library. At what point do we finally point the finger at the corch?
 
407cane said:
i'll beat a dead horse with this

nobody loves rosier

but it's more telling of Perry than it is of Rosier that Rosier has beaten him straight up for two years running

perry better get his **** together or you guys will be begging for weldon next year
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It’s also telling that the number one guy one cmr’s recruiting board the crown jewel of the class can’t beat out rosier. Is it a bad evaluation, coaching, or something else. There has to be something we don’t know bc according to malik we have basically the worst starting qb and thus far according to cmr he’s still better than kosi. It just doesn’t add up
 
407cane said:
i'll beat a dead horse with this

nobody loves rosier

but it's more telling of Perry than it is of Rosier that Rosier has beaten him straight up for two years running

perry better get his **** together or you guys will be begging for weldon next year
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Has he though? And how do you know that? From everything we've heard, Rosier has never really been thrown into an even competition where practice, scrimmage, and game reps were split equally. Richt has just put and kept Rosier on top of the depth chart all along, there was no "straight up" competition.

Regardless, like LuCane was alluding to, it's not on the players, it's on the coaches. We've got three highly recruited and well regarded prospects at the position behind Rosier. If one guy is immature, that happens. There is no logical explanation, that I have heard, for why they haven't been able to get one of these guys to a place where Richt is comfortable that they're better than one of the objectively worst QB's in all of D1.
 
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It seems like Mark Richt just wants people who aren't going to challenge his say. His surrounding cast and starting qb speak volumes to that. And the "grading" the coaches keep bringing up is absolutely mind-boggling to me.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
Lu, I think that's the frustration, is that it was so predictable that this is where we would be, yet here we are. Mean time, the coaches spent all summer giving Rosier the vast majority of reps with the 1's and trying to tell us all that Rosier was a different guy now. If we all knew this is where we would end up, and it was so predictable, then why didn't our highly paid, well-regarded coaches have someone else prepared to do a better job?
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It is possible that he actually looked as if he improved. And it’s still possible that he did improve and will show so although we can all agree that’s unlikely at this point.
 
dukemv said:
It seems like Mark Richt just wants people who aren't going to challenge his say. His surrounding cast and starting qb speak volumes to that. And the "grading" the coaches keep bringing up is absolutely mind-boggling to me.
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there is no evidence of anything you just posted, it's just bullshi* wrapped in a post
 
407cane said:
there is no evidence of anything you just posted, it's just bullshi* wrapped in a post
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He lays into Jarren Williams for not following his rec for a play. His staff is full of first-time Div 1 coaches who are grateful for the opp and unlikely to challenge him. Rosier can't challenge his word because he has no idea wth is going on.

Edit: "Lays into" is kind of strong... Maybe doesn't praise JW for recognizing defense and making the appropriate adjustment is better.
 
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