Richt at UGA

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Why do we have to wait for year 3 for a conclusion? Look I am extremely happy Rick is here but there is such thing as accountability and fans holding people accountable. We tried the hands off approach how did that work out the past 15 years?

The defense gave up almost a 100 points the last 3 games. 2 of those teams sucked on offense let’s face it. Kelly Bryant? Well we saw what a great defense can do to him last night. He looked like God himself in Charlotte I was there!

Look no one has all of the answers but what happened to a secondary that has a second team All American and a guy who may go pro? People want to say that these guys aren’t that good when the talent is only part of the issue. Quarterman and McCloud also regressed big time this season.

The bottomline what what I am seeing is teams are adjusting to Manny’s schemes and he has had no answers. Wisconsin offense looked like well like a typical Whisky offense in the 1st quarter. That was until their OC outschemed Manny and dropped 21 straight of him. It happened vs Clemson as well again 21 straight.

Offense shares some of the blame going 3 and out but often but the D has to make a play at some point. They didn’t and when you don’t get turnovers in a Diaz defense you are going to be in for a long night!

And you don't think that’s because this defense was gassed? Do you even understand how inefficient we were on O because we can’t even execute a simple screen pass? That pick by Rosier never happens if Mcdoormat doesn’t whiff on his block....and then you have people asking why our O doesn’t look like Oklahoma. I can tell you this team finished top 5 in defensive snaps without even looking up the stats not only because we were average on third downs but because we were 123th in time of possession, 80th in first downs, and 107th in 3rd down conversion rate. Does that sound like a team deserving of being 10-3? I’ll give you the first quarter of the Clemson game because that was absolutely horrendous but how do you want him to field a top ten defense when LSU is more efficient than our Offense....and how do you want Richt to get more creative on O if we can’t complete a simple screen correctly?

How gassed were they when giving up a potential game winning TD to a Freshman QB Blackman?Does the O get some credit for that win? How gassed were they when giving up a late first half TD to a true freshman Pitt QB? How gassed were they when giving up 21 straight 2 games in a row in the first half? If they are gassed in the first half well time to talk S&C.

Not buying that if the O has more sustained drives this is a D that can win games. Not from what I saw in the last 3 games. The end of the season is usually money time for team and they played the worst I have seen a defense play.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Richt couldn't get to the big dance at Gawja but Kirby can do it with Fromm in year 2? Hmmm.

Richt Former players > Al Golden former players

Georgia’s loss at Auburn would have kept them out of the championship during the BCS. Kirby also has 31 seniors and even more draftable upperclassmen left from Richt. We’ll see what he can do in two years

You don't know that. The BCS system was completely different, AND being the SEC champ would have carried a ton of weight.

Well they were third behind Clemson and Oklahoma so it’s fair to say.

 

[RepTheGables]

Richt's highest win total in his 15 years at UGA was in year 2. Overall winning % at UGA was .740. After 2 years at Miami (FL) it's .731. I hate to say it, but perhaps what we see is what we get.

So your saying we're going to have be satisfied with winning 74 % of our games over 15 years ? How embarrassing (insert sarcasm)

It's not embarrassing. It's also not Jimmy Johnson.

Not yet. We still need to have a heartbreaking loss in the title game this coming season and our undefeated campaign in 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Johnson_(American_football_coach)#College

 

[Consigliere]

Clemson had less offense against Bama than the Canes had against them - there are probablyTiger fans calling for Dabo Sweeny's head too.

You're right. They probably want to kill the guy who built their program and won a National Champ last year (something Richt has never done).

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Nah actually a bad comparison. Sweeney’s offense was bad for a game vs the best defense in the nation. On the other hand our defense played 3 average offenses. You could say Pitt and Wisky’s O were below average since they rely on true freshmen to beat us.

 

[bshaw28]

Richt went 13-1 in 2002, his only 1 loss season. In the 2003 draft, Georgia had 2 OL & 1 DL drafted in the 1st round.

2004-2017 Georgia's had 1 OL & 1 DL taken in the first 2 rounds.

If doesn't start stacking more talent in the trenches, I'd expect to stay in the 2-4 loss a year range under Richt.

 

[TreOFive]

Or perhaps he improves as his recruits show up. I hate all the comparisons to his Georgia days, he definitely has his short comings but I feel like he's much more involved and has way more fire than he's had at Georgia in years. I'm disappointed by the way the season ended on a 3 game loss (glass half empty view) but on the other hand, we just had our best season in YEARS and we all were crazy excited to be 10-0. I'm not a Mark apologist but this man has done more for our program in the last 2 years than we've had in the last 15.(glass half full view) If we're still having the type of losses we ended on in a couple of years I'll be right there with you complaining.

apparently once the new AD got their he hated his job lol. his record reflects, his first few years at UGA he was on beast mode.

Yes.....Evans ****ed things up with his fiasco which led to their current AD, whome CMR did not like one bit.

 

[tcgrad1014]

Richt went 13-1 in 2002, his only 1 loss season. In the 2003 draft, Georgia had 2 OL & 1 DL drafted in the 1st round.

2004-2017 Georgia's had 1 OL & 1 DL taken in the first 2 rounds.

If doesn't start stacking more talent in the trenches, I'd expect to stay in the 2-4 loss a year range under Richt.

So his most successful draft while at UGA was the previous staff's recruits.

 

[bshaw28]

Richt went 13-1 in 2002, his only 1 loss season. In the 2003 draft, Georgia had 2 OL & 1 DL drafted in the 1st round.

2004-2017 Georgia's had 1 OL & 1 DL taken in the first 2 rounds.

If doesn't start stacking more talent in the trenches, I'd expect to stay in the 2-4 loss a year range under Richt.

So his most successful draft while at UGA was the previous staff's recruits.

Just in terms of the Defensive Line:

2002 - Charles Grant, DE (1st Round)
2003 - Jonathan Sullivan, DT (1st Round)
2005 - David Pollack, DE (1st Round)

Pollack was part of the 2001 recruiting class. Not sure how much credit goes to Richt since he was hired Dec. 2000. If Pollack was already on board, then Richt inherited 3 1st Round DL's, and never recruited one himself that would be drafted in the first 2 rounds.

But I'd say his most successful draft was 2009 when Stafford went #1, Moreno #12 , with 3 more guys in rounds 2 & 3.

 

[Fightinibis]

Richt's highest win total in his 15 years at UGA was in year 2. Overall winning % at UGA was .740. After 2 years at Miami (FL) it's .731. I hate to say it, but perhaps what we see is what we get.

It's all a matter of perspective.

Kiffen was just on LeBatard and was asked what one coach he could name that he always thought "no way that guy can beat me".

At first he played the "I think that way about every coach"...then he named Mark Richt for when he was at UT. He said UGA had been beating UT, and he told his players, we will never lose to this guy...and beat UGA by 20 or something.

UGA is now in a National Championship, so clearly now they say good luck with our leftovers who couldn't do what Smart is now doing with Richt's kids.n

Sad to say, if we are honest, there is truth to some of this. He will have to recruit better than anyone for a while to have any chance on a slashed booster network and employment budget.

The one glimmer of hope for me was seeing Richt explode in the Orange Bowl. He needs to learn to stop worrying about how the officials family is doing pre-game and learn to work them during a game instead of burying his head in his play sheet...more importantly, he needs to find the funds to hire a top notch OC he can roll with.

UM

 

[Caneadian]

Kirby Smart takes Richt's team from Georgia and takes them to championship game. I wonder if Kirby hired his son to coach the most important player on the field?

 

[rustywalkedaway]

2005 UGA? 2007 UGA? 2012 UGA? You can’t just base of their record...they also played a ****ty FSU team that year in a bowl. If the playoff were around they would’ve been shoe ins 2 those years too. We’re not UGA...we have a superior recruiting ground with superior speed and we’ve won titles with half of talent this staff has. Just let it play out...we’ll probably know what we have by next year.

What team was that?

I’m talking coaching staff wise, not team wise.


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I'm not here to bash Richt and the current staff, but that is a ridiculous assertion/comparison. People need to come back to reality.

The only head coaches to win a NC at Miami are Howard, Jimmy, Dennis (2), and Coker. The only possible staff you can be comparing Richt's to is Coker's and that 2001 team is arguably the most talented squad in college football history. Plus there is no argument that we won titles, plural, with "half" this staff's talent because that never happened.

****, I've seen us lose championships with better staffs and better teams. Anybody watching since the 80s has as well.

 

[MiamiSports]

We needed a sure thing, and we got one. We couldn't afford another crap shoot HC hire, so we got a proven pro.

He's stabilized the program and made us relevant again, but history should be your teacher. I don't know how anyone could look at 15 years of data at a marquee program and not think that we'd get pretty much the same results.

My hope is that his UM Aaron Murray hits a TD pass instead of coming up a yard short of the NC game.

It's also different with the playoff than when Richt was shut out of the BCS game if he didn't win the SEC. How many playoff teams in 15 years does he coach? At least 3 and probably 2 more get in over that time frame. If this were 5 years ago that fat ******* visor wearing dirtbag Smart isn't in the Champ game on Monday either.

HeHe Kirby Smart annoys the **** out of me with that visor.

 

[Texxcane]

We needed a sure thing, and we got one. We couldn't afford another crap shoot HC hire, so we got a proven pro.

He's stabilized the program and made us relevant again, but history should be your teacher. I don't know how anyone could look at 15 years of data at a marquee program and not think that we'd get pretty much the same results.

My hope is that his UM Aaron Murray hits a TD pass instead of coming up a yard short of the NC game.

very well put sir and spot on

 

[Texxcane]

Richt went 13-1 in 2002, his only 1 loss season. In the 2003 draft, Georgia had 2 OL & 1 DL drafted in the 1st round.

2004-2017 Georgia's had 1 OL & 1 DL taken in the first 2 rounds.

If doesn't start stacking more talent in the trenches, I'd expect to stay in the 2-4 loss a year range under Richt.

So his most successful draft while at UGA was the previous staff's recruits.

Just in terms of the Defensive Line:

2002 - Charles Grant, DE (1st Round)
2003 - Jonathan Sullivan, DT (1st Round)
2005 - David Pollack, DE (1st Round)

Pollack was part of the 2001 recruiting class. Not sure how much credit goes to Richt since he was hired Dec. 2000. If Pollack was already on board, then Richt inherited 3 1st Round DL's, and never recruited one himself that would be drafted in the first 2 rounds.

But I'd say his most successful draft was 2009 when Stafford went #1 , Moreno [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 2[/URL] , with 3 more guys in rounds 2 & 3.

this right here speaks volumes, just volumes

 

[Texxcane]

and btw, once pollack got off the roids he shrunk down to nothing

 

[CaneToad]

Richt's highest win total in his 15 years at UGA was in year 2. Overall winning % at UGA was .740. After 2 years at Miami (FL) it's .731. I hate to say it, but perhaps what we see is what we get.

Get lost loser!

 

[CaneToad]

2005 UGA? 2007 UGA? 2012 UGA? You can’t just base of their record...they also played a ****ty FSU team that year in a bowl. If they playoff we’re around they would’ve been shoe ins 2 those years too. We’re not UGA...we have a superior recruiting ground with superior speed and we’ve won titles with half of talent this staff has. Just let it play out...we’ll probably know what we have by next year.

Richt is entitled to 5+ years. Not saying otherwise. But a 15 year track record can't be ignored because he's in Miami now. At the end of the day he's a B+ coach. That's no revelation.

You are a loser...evidence...attitude and comments that prove you have NO CLUE!

 

[TheEye]

Richt couldn't get to the big dance at Gawja but Kirby can do it with Fromm in year 2? Hmmm.

Richt Former players > Al Golden former players

Georgia’s loss at Auburn would have kept them out of the championship during the BCS. Kirby also has 31 seniors and even more draftable upperclassmen left from Richt. We’ll see what he can do in two years

You don't know that. The BCS system was completely different, AND being the SEC champ would have carried a ton of weight.

LOL! Richt has won 2 SEC titles, and when he lost the East, he still ended within the top 4 multiple times. These are apples and oranges. To say Richt is a bad hire is laughable and made by people who think Miami is going to hire the next Saban or Meyer.

 

[HurricaneVision]

After what this program has been through for the past decade, it amazes me that what we have now somehow isn't good enough.

I'll take seasons like we just had almost every year. We basically just had an 11-win season and could've easily had a 13-win season in year two of a regime. I'm choosing to count the Arkansas St. game as a win on our ledger.

If we are going to be upset every year we aren't in the playoffs we are going to have a completely miserable fanbase.