Richt and the offense....changes? Don't count on it.

[miamiphd]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

This. Not to mention Richt's offenses have always run the ball to set up the pass. We really had no solid run game all year. His play calling will improve with a better quarterback, the influx of talent the last two years at OL, and the running back studs we've brought in.

Recruiting Realus George shows where Richt wants to go. A top FB leading the way for a corps of fine RBs (Lingard, Davis, Dallas, Homer). Improvement on the OL and the two-back set will allow Richt to run the ball to set up the pass. The dual-threat QB (Perry) will also be part of the running game that will freeze LBs and DBs as the QB rolls to the edge. If they come up to defend the run, bang a pass to the open WR or TE. Richt tried that somewhat with Rosier, but Rosier doesn't have the accuracy or vision to make the play work. Donaldson is a beast. Gaynor has promise. Hillary and Hebert did not see much playing time; if one of them performs well, it is a get for Miami.

 

[obfan]

Bigtime football programs do not have the head coaches son for qb coaches. They have professionals. They also have Professional OC. We want to be a top 10 team we are gonna have to pay to compete.

 

[Coach Macho]

If Richt is going to blindly stick to the RPO, we need a transcendent, natural at QB to be dominant. A Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick who has that innate ability to feel a defense and know how to beat it. I don’t think you can coach that into a guy that doesn’t possess it naturally, as far as it relates to the RPO.

I don’t like Richt’s offense. I find it to be vanilla and predictable. But if we get a superstar QB, we have as good a shot as anyone outside of Bama and Clemson at winning a championship.


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For the 129th time...

THE RPO IS NOT AN OFFENSE.
IT'S A CONCEPT WITHIN AN OFFENSE.
IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A MOBILE QB.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Just said this in the other thread, but Richt wasn't the problem with this offense. I was really hard on him at times, but after watching a good deal of our offensive snaps, we should probably be singing his praises that he got as much out of Rosier as he did.

We left a ton on the field this year, and almost none of it was Richt's fault.

It's an obvious thing to say, but Richt just needs a QB. He didn't recruit Rosier. He didn't rectuit Kaaya.

He recruited Perry and Williams. Let's see what this offense can do going forward.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Bigtime football programs do not have the head coaches son for qb coaches. They have professionals. They also have Professional OC. We want to be a top 10 team we are gonna have to pay to compete.

Kaaya had by far his best season under J. Richt and Rosier put up solid numbers for a guy with very limited talent. Jon also has been a good recruiter. He got N’Kosi back and landed Jarren Williams. Complaining about Jon richt is so dumb. It’s like some posters are going through a checklist of complaints, even if they have no basis in reality.

 

[Coach Macho]

I think Richt’s playcalling could use some work—especially on second down—but overall it really doesn’t concern me. We moved the ball significantly better than we should have last night.

He does need a better QB but the biggest problem is actually the running game. We kept using the wildcat because we can’t run the ball straight up. We had to have Rosier toss it around the field because we couldn’t run, and that has been the theme all year. Some of that is due to the OL, but Homer might be the most overrated player on the team. He has zero vision. Richt knew we were in trouble depth wise and that’s why he was trying to find a graduate transfer. I think RB will be a lot better next year with Lingard and a more experienced Homer.

Travis Homer 12 carries 64 yards 5.3 average


I thought he was doing fine. We abandoned the run.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

I think Richt’s playcalling could use some work—especially on second down—but overall it really doesn’t concern me. We moved the ball significantly better than we should have last night.

He does need a better QB but the biggest problem is actually the running game. We kept using the wildcat because we can’t run the ball straight up. We had to have Rosier toss it around the field because we couldn’t run, and that has been the theme all year. Some of that is due to the OL, but Homer might be the most overrated player on the team. He has zero vision. Richt knew we were in trouble depth wise and that’s why he was trying to find a graduate transfer. I think RB will be a lot better next year with Lingard and a more experienced Homer.

It's not his "play calling" that concerns me. It's the overall design/concepts and what we're trying to accomplish on offense that has me scared moving forward. His system is a big part in why we struggle in the red zone/3rd downs FOR TWO STRAIGHT YEARS (with two different QB's mind you).

If you think that the offensive struggles will just magically disappear if we get better QB play, you're sorely mistaken.

 

[Rellyrell]

Get Helfrich!

 

[Coach Macho]

Truthfully I think both of our coordinators are just decent, not great.

I don't really have faith that either one of them will out-coach the big boys once we get to the playoffs.

We just lost to a team that has less talent than us. We got shredded by a true freshman WR and a QB who threw 15 INT's this season.
Why should I believe that an influx of talent will have us competing with the likes of Clemson and Alabama? (those games will come down to coaching)

 

[caneworld]

Bigtime football programs do not have the head coaches son for qb coaches. They have professionals. They also have Professional OC. We want to be a top 10 team we are gonna have to pay to compete.

BINGO... Richt is playing Bowden ball .... he learned from the best on nepotism

 

[caneworld]

Bigtime football programs do not have the head coaches son for qb coaches. They have professionals. They also have Professional OC. We want to be a top 10 team we are gonna have to pay to compete.

Kaaya had by far his best season under J. Richt and Rosier put up solid numbers for a guy with very limited talent. Jon also has been a good recruiter. He got N’Kosi back and landed Jarren Williams. Complaining about Jon richt is so dumb. It’s like some posters are going through a checklist of complaints, even if they have no basis in reality.

Jon should be anything but an OC ... he has nothing that qualifies him to be OC at a major college program other than having daddy as HC

 

[Canes82]

Bigtime football programs do not have the head coaches son for qb coaches. They have professionals. They also have Professional OC. We want to be a top 10 team we are gonna have to pay to compete.

BINGO... Richt is playing Bowden ball .... he learned from the best on nepotism

FSU literally had to force Bobby to fire Jeff and hire Jimbo. Think about how crazy that is.

 

[Gatorhater]

With the 2018 class, almost the entire QB selection will be Mark’s recruits. If Rosier is the problem then he needs to pick one of his own. If he doesn’t then his qb recruiting sucks or rosier is not the problem. Either way, if we are talking about QB problem in 2018, it is time to start planning for mark thank you dinner and retirement. He got to the door of the big boy room this year and had it slammed in his face. Good enough for uga but not here. If Clemson is not at least peeing in its pants to the end of the ACC title game next year, we need to accept that mark is transitional coach who will ready us for the next coach to take us to the finish line.

Mark’s history says he fails. Our history says we win in all. I for one think Cane history will overcome Mark’s personal history and he gets a NC within the next two years. JJ lost the big one twice here before our talent overcame his sucking Bowl Game prep — and that was against the one team we owned that could not beat us OU. ND gamed showed we can beat big runnning team. WI confirmed that even though we lost in the end. We need some more Miami style menfolk to take out Clemson but we have them coming.

 

[Pete]

As [MENTION=477]Big Sky Cane[/MENTION] said in another thread, no excuses next season. It will be Richt's 3rd year and we should have ample talent on offense. I'm very concerned about the direction of the defense, coaching-wise.

No excuses next year??? What have you been watching? Our success (or not) will be determined in the trenches. We're going to have a younger OL. Sure you can say addition by subtraction, but starting numerous true freshmen on the line and hoping a LT emerges is not the recipe for success (except maybe against Bethune Cookman, or Toledo). We saw against Clemson how Donaldson fared against real DTs despite his natural ability. We have to hope we hit on all our evaluations and give them at least a year to develop and get stronger before we can reasonably challenge the Clemsons and Bamas which I presume was the objective. Winning the Coastal was merely a long overdue consolation prize.

Nobody thought this was going to be a quick fix.

You lose and gain players every year. This will be Richt's 3rd year and he'll have Brevin, Pope, Lingard, a QB and a day 1 full back in addition to OL guys they've been developing. No excuses.

You have a lot of faith in incoming recruits.I don't vs.seniors on opposing teams.4-5 star recruits
are what they are,great HS players.

 

[NorthEastCane]

As [MENTION=477]Big Sky Cane[/MENTION] said in another thread, no excuses next season. It will be Richt's 3rd year and we should have ample talent on offense. I'm very concerned about the direction of the defense, coaching-wise.

No excuses next year??? What have you been watching? Our success (or not) will be determined in the trenches. We're going to have a younger OL. Sure you can say addition by subtraction, but starting numerous true freshmen on the line and hoping a LT emerges is not the recipe for success (except maybe against Bethune Cookman, or Toledo). We saw against Clemson how Donaldson fared against real DTs despite his natural ability. We have to hope we hit on all our evaluations and give them at least a year to develop and get stronger before we can reasonably challenge the Clemsons and Bamas which I presume was the objective. Winning the Coastal was merely a long overdue consolation prize.

Nobody thought this was going to be a quick fix.

You lose and gain players every year. This will be Richt's 3rd year and he'll have Brevin, Pope, Lingard, a QB and a day 1 full back in addition to OL guys they've been developing. No excuses.

You have a lot of faith in incoming recruits.I don't vs.seniors on opposing teams.4-5 star recruits
are what they are,great HS players.

I agree.

RVA - you list all skill players and an anonymous blob called "OL guys". That seems to be the trend around here. Load up with fast jack rabbits at the skill positions and the trenches take care of themselves. It doesn't work that way.

And the expectations for true freshmen linemen are extreme (to be polite). We just had a true freshmen (Donaldson), with off the chart skills, come in with an early start, and for most of the season he was only serviceable. Sure he did good against Bethune Cookman and Toledo, but he was manhandled against Clemson. And that's not to disparage him as a prospect, he was forced to more than can be expected of someone who hasn't been through the strength and conditioning program for more than a year. Yet, you expect freshmen from this in-coming class to step in and contribute right away. They should be red shirting no matter how good their future prospects are.

This is no excuse but we are going to struggle against top 10 teams until we get the depth in the trenches on par with the teams we're competing against. In the meantime, an oline that can't pass block or run block is going to limit what any offensive coordinator you wish to bring in can call. There only so much that the wild cat, triple reverse flea flicker, or other "creative" trickeration calls can hide.

 

[obfan]

He needs Professional help. Rosier said in the Spring that he NEVER watched film until this years Spring Practice. WTF is that? Your backup qb doesn't have to watch film??? Who the **** is the QB coach? Who the **** is the OC? I'm pretty sure they are both named Richt

 

[RVACane]

As [MENTION=477]Big Sky Cane[/MENTION] said in another thread, no excuses next season. It will be Richt's 3rd year and we should have ample talent on offense. I'm very concerned about the direction of the defense, coaching-wise.

No excuses next year??? What have you been watching? Our success (or not) will be determined in the trenches. We're going to have a younger OL. Sure you can say addition by subtraction, but starting numerous true freshmen on the line and hoping a LT emerges is not the recipe for success (except maybe against Bethune Cookman, or Toledo). We saw against Clemson how Donaldson fared against real DTs despite his natural ability. We have to hope we hit on all our evaluations and give them at least a year to develop and get stronger before we can reasonably challenge the Clemsons and Bamas which I presume was the objective. Winning the Coastal was merely a long overdue consolation prize.

Nobody thought this was going to be a quick fix.

You lose and gain players every year. This will be Richt's 3rd year and he'll have Brevin, Pope, Lingard, a QB and a day 1 full back in addition to OL guys they've been developing. No excuses.

You have a lot of faith in incoming recruits.I don't vs.seniors on opposing teams.4-5 star recruits
are what they are,great HS players.

I agree.

RVA - you list all skill players and an anonymous blob called "OL guys". That seems to be the trend around here. Load up with fast jack rabbits at the skill positions and the trenches take care of themselves. It doesn't work that way.

And the expectations for true freshmen linemen are extreme (to be polite). We just had a true freshmen (Donaldson), with off the chart skills, come in with an early start, and for most of the season he was only serviceable. Sure he did good against Bethune Cookman and Toledo, but he was manhandled against Clemson. And that's not to disparage him as a prospect, he was forced to more than can be expected of someone who hasn't been through the strength and conditioning program for more than a year. Yet, you expect freshmen from this in-coming class to step in and contribute right away. They should be red shirting no matter how good their future prospects are.

This is no excuse but we are going to struggle against top 10 teams until we get the depth in the trenches on par with the teams we're competing against. In the meantime, an oline that can't pass block or run block is going to limit what any offensive coordinator you wish to bring in can call. There only so much that the wild cat, triple reverse flea flicker, or other "creative" trickeration calls can hide.

I don't know guys. It's not an easy road. As for OL, I'm talking about Donaldson, Hillary and Gaynor. I agree we still need more trench depth. As for skills guys, I'm thinking that Brevin and Lingard are immediate upgrades to what we have now. At a minimum, Lingard gives us immediate depth. We don't have a fullback so Realus is an automatic upgrade there. I do think that Lorenzo Lingard, Brevin Jordan and Realus George contribute immediately and fill in missing pieces.

 

[Cribby]

I think Richt’s playcalling could use some work—especially on second down—but overall it really doesn’t concern me. We moved the ball significantly better than we should have last night.

He does need a better QB but the biggest problem is actually the running game. We kept using the wildcat because we can’t run the ball straight up. We had to have Rosier toss it around the field because we couldn’t run, and that has been the theme all year. Some of that is due to the OL, but Homer might be the most overrated player on the team. He has zero vision. Richt knew we were in trouble depth wise and that’s why he was trying to find a graduate transfer. I think RB will be a lot better next year with Lingard and a more experienced Homer.

Travis Homer 12 carries 64 yards 5.3 average


I thought he was doing fine. We abandoned the run.

Dude you can't do that , you're questioning Richt. You're supposed to say " it's rosiers fault we abandoned the run".

 

[obfan]

Ten wins and a Coastal Title is all i could have hoped for in August. We truthfully got lucky a couple times but thats ok. I just think we could have have squeezed out the Pittsburg and Wisky game with little more creativity. Even then Clemson showed we are not ready for top 10 action with the incomplete team we are fielding. The LSU game is now very complicated. I shudder to think the staff will have to simplify this pathetic offense for Perry. He can't do it with 2 formations folks. Nobody can.

 

[jkaz1]

I agree.

Richt is good enough to get us a championship or two here.

As long as we're producing on the field, we'll keep getting big-time recruits. This will allow the momentum to keep building in the program, etc.

We need to win the division again next year and hopefully the conference as well so that we get to the playoff.

With the 2018 class, almost the entire QB selection will be Mark’s recruits. If Rosier is the problem then he needs to pick one of his own. If he doesn’t then his qb recruiting sucks or rosier is not the problem. Either way, if we are talking about QB problem in 2018, it is time to start planning for mark thank you dinner and retirement. He got to the door of the big boy room this year and had it slammed in his face. Good enough for uga but not here. If Clemson is not at least peeing in its pants to the end of the ACC title game next year, we need to accept that mark is transitional coach who will ready us for the next coach to take us to the finish line.

Mark’s history says he fails. Our history says we win in all. I for one think Cane history will overcome Mark’s personal history and he gets a NC within the next two years. JJ lost the big one twice here before our talent overcame his sucking Bowl Game prep — and that was against the one team we owned that could not beat us OU. ND gamed showed we can beat big runnning team. WI confirmed that even though we lost in the end. We need some more Miami style menfolk to take out Clemson but we have them coming.